Darkoz history
Quote: EvenBobA lot of people in the service industry don't
respect big tippers at all, they resent them
for the very reason the guy is making the
tip.
I assume this is what you thought every time you got a big tip while working in the service industry. It fits well with your persona.
Quote: EvenBobIt's not about the tipped, it's about
the tipper. Remember the scene
in Goodfellahs where the Deniro
character is throwing hundred
dollar bills at the restaurant staff?
He's saying screw you, look what I
can do and you'll never do. You'll
never be where I am. He could care
less what they do with it or how
it helps them.
Basing an understanding of real people by watching films? In the future, will you be citing what Rex Harrison does and says in Dr. Doolittle? Or what DeNiro says and does in Analyze This?
Quote: MoscaSo you edify yourself by talking rather than listening.
I read posts and respond, isn't that
the internet equivalent of listening?
Quote: gordonm888Basing an understanding of real people by watching films?
Actually, I based it on a what a friend
who hung around Mafia people told
me. He's a Jew, so they never really
accepted him, but in the 50's and
60's they let him hang around and
run stolen jewelry to pawn shops
for them. It never dawned on him
till years later they were using
him as a patsy.
Also, I've read the same thing in
books about wiseguys, I mentioned
Goodfellahs because my Jewish
friend was impressed that Scorcese
got it right in the movie. Sinatra
learned it from his Mafia friends
also. It's screw you money, that
you flash in the faces of people
beneath you.
Quote: EvenBob
who hung around Mafia people
. He's a Jew, so they never really
accepted him,
incorrect. your edification program isn't working well
Meyer Lansky, Micky Cohen, Dutch Schulz and Bugsy Siegel were all Jews who were high up in the Mafia or well connected to it
from Wikipedia:
"The largely Jewish-American and Italian-American gang known as Murder, Inc. and Jewish mobsters such as Meyer Lansky, Mickey Cohen, Harold "Hooky" Rothman, Dutch Schultz, and Bugsy Siegel developed close ties with and gained significant influence within the Italian-American Mafia, eventually forming a loosely organized, mostly Jewish and Italian criminal syndicate known in the press as the "National Crime Syndicate." Jewish and Italian crime groups became increasingly interconnected in the 1920s and 1930s, as they often occupied the same neighborhoods and social statuses of the time. The two ethnic crime groups became especially close in New York City following the establishment of the close relationship between partners Lucky Luciano and Meyer Lansky and their subsequent elimination of many of the so-called "Mustache Pete", or the Sicilian-born gangsters that often refused to work with non-Italians and even non-Sicilians. The Cohen crime family of Los Angeles and Las Vegas was notably part of both the Jewish Mafia and Italian-American Mafia, and lines between the two ethnic criminal organizations often blurred throughout the 20th century. For decades after, Jewish-American mobsters would continue to work closely and at times compete with Italian-American organized crime.[5"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish-American_organized_crime
Quote: EvenBobI read posts and respond, isn't that
the internet equivalent of listening?
At least we agree that none of it matters a whit. Cheers!
Quote: darkoz$32
Pure luck lol. Several bonus rounds at sex and the city
The 1st $1000 is a story I need to save for my book
Edit: $38 was my high and when I had dropped down to $32 I left. I was playing .50 wagers
I will buy your book. Not kidding.
Same.Quote: FCBLComishI will buy your book. Not kidding.
Quote: FCBLComishI will buy your book. Not kidding.
I also think you would be an interesting person to grab a drink with. No? how about a coffee... wait, make that tea.... No, how about hot chocolate.
Ok a Pepsi then.
Quote: FCBLComishI also think you would be an interesting person to grab a drink with. No? how about a coffee... wait, make that tea.... No, how about hot chocolate.
Ok a Pepsi then.
Possible. I run around a lot though. Where are you? AC?
Last time I met someone from this forum (excluding the spring fling) he turned out to be a scam artist so I probably will reserve meet n greets for the annual get together. Not sure if I am attending this year though
Especially with some AP's here adding me to their hit list. I might wind up taking a one way drive into the desert with a shovel
Quote: darkoz
Especially with some AP's here adding me to their hit list. I might wind up taking a one way drive into the desert with a shovel
Just tell them your not part of the ditch diggers union so your not allowed to dig any holes in the lower 48 states.
Quote: lilredroosterincorrect.
All I know about it is what he
told me. The particular group he
hung with rejected Jews to the
point he never spoke about it
around them. It's a good thing
for him they didn't, he would
have ended up in prison for
sure if they had recruited him.
The stories he tells are pretty
amazing, at how truly stupid
these guys were, and the insane
ripoff schemes they came up
with.
Quote: FCBLComishI will buy your book. Not kidding.
I'll wait till it's free on Kindle after nobody
buys it.
Quote: darkozPossible. I run around a lot though. Where are you? AC?
Last time I met someone from this forum (excluding the spring fling) he turned out to be a scam artist so I probably will reserve meet n greets for the annual get together. Not sure if I am attending this year though
Especially with some AP's here adding me to their hit list. I might wind up taking a one way drive into the desert with a shovel
Nobody cares about you that much. I would say you are 100% safe from that trip. Although, you seem to be developing a couple fans that work for the system you are trying to exploit.
Quote: MaxPenNobody cares about you that much. I would say you are 100% safe from that trip. Although, you seem to be developing a couple fans that work for the system you are trying to exploit.
Oh good
I thought publishing my book might actually scare some AP's
Glad I have the greenlight
Quote: darkozOh good
I thought publishing my book might actually scare some AP's
Glad I have the greenlight
Will the book include the combinations to your safes?
Or is that info divulged only to close family, in-laws, and girlfriends
Quote: michael99000Will the book include the combinations to your safes?
Or is that info divulged only to close family, in-laws, and girlfriends
He probably changed all combinations AND told no one the new combinations after he was robbed by someone he trusted. I wouldn't blame him.
Quote: michael99000Will the book include the combinations to your safes?
Or is that info divulged only to close family, in-laws, and girlfriends
What combinations?
All the combination info was given in the original post of an AP Nightmare
Edit: actually the second story post to be more exact
Quote: darkozWhat combinations?
All the combination info was given in the original post of an AP Nightmare
Edit: actually the second story post to be more exact
Dark, is my assumption correct? You got all new combinations and told no one the new combinations after a trusted confidant robbed you?
Quote: NathanDark, is my assumption correct? You got all new combinations and told no one the new combinations after a trusted confidant robbed you?
I never said there were combinations nor what type of safe the money was stored in.
The thief used tools to open the safe. No one knew any combinations nor were any combinations used by the thief to open the safes
Quote: darkozI never said there were combinations nor what type of safe the money was stored in.
The thief used tools to open the safe. No one knew any combinations nor were any combinations used by the thief to open the safes
Okay, that makes sense that the thief used tools to open up the safe and not a combination, but O.O. Wow was he determined to get that money, using TOOLS on the safe! Sad! O.O :O That's right I'm using BOTH the "I can't believe this!" Emoticon, O.O AND the "I am shocked!" Emoticon, :O
Quote: darkozPossible. I run around a lot though. Where are you? AC?
Last time I met someone from this forum (excluding the spring fling) he turned out to be a scam artist so I probably will reserve meet n greets for the annual get together. Not sure if I am attending this year though
Especially with some AP's here adding me to their hit list. I might wind up taking a one way drive into the desert with a shovel
I am in Vegas.
I also read them as e-defacation
def·e·ca·tion
Dictionary result for defecation
/ˌdefəˈkāSHən/Submit
noun
the discharge of feces from the body.
Quote: michael99000Will the book include the combinations to your safes?Or is that info divulged only to close family, in-laws, and girlfriends
Guffaw on steroids. Those are just people
we know about.
Not quite trolling, not quite hijacking, insults masked as criticism... In other words, some of Evenbob's best work. Behold the master.
Quote: JohnzimboIn this thread I learned that all of EvenBob's posts are all about edification.
I also read them as e-defacation
They aren't to edify you, why would
I possibly care about that. It's all
about SELF edification. Always post
for yourself and never think about
who reads them. It's the only way
to be authentic.
Quote: beachbumbabsNot quite trolling, not quite hijacking, insults masked as criticism... In other words, some of Evenbob's best work. Behold the master.
You're the only one that appreciates my
work. It's the smart one, of course..
Quote: beachbumbabsThis is an odd thread. One post about darkoz from darkoz, maybe another page aggregate of follow-up, and 6 pages of Evenbob "edification" including crapping on darkoz.
Not quite trolling, not quite hijacking, insults masked as criticism... In other words, some of Evenbob's best work. Behold the master.
Yes a very odd thread
EB craps on Darkoz (your words)
Gets complimented for great work by mod who tried to shut down darkoz other thread
Facts!
Quote: beachbumbabs
Not quite trolling, not quite hijacking, insults masked as criticism... In other words, some of Evenbob's best work. Behold the master.
They say the great ones make it look easy
Quote: EvenBobThey aren't to edify you, why would
I possibly care about that. It's all
about SELF edification. Always post
for yourself and never think about
who reads them. It's the only way
to be authentic.
I was implying you are shitting on DarkOz, not on yourself.
But hey. If it makes you feel better about yourself, please continue
Quote: darkozYes a very odd thread
EB craps on Darkoz (your words)
Gets complimented for great work by mod who tried to shut down darkoz other thread
Facts!
Darkoz.
You don't recognize sarcasm when you read it? I did try to be obvious. "Great work"?
I can't warn EB when he's not breaking any rules, let alone suspend him. But I can give him a brush back by spotlighting his tactics to help the rest of you see what he's doing and stop responding to them. Remember, he's bored, his sparring partner is gone for months. He's looking for mischief.
As to your other thread, I'm satisfied the exposure you put the board into was not sufficiently damaging to require its deletion. So there it stands. Continue it if you wish.
Can't imagine why you're still angry with me, but it seems to be all the rage these days, so have at it. I suspended you for 2 days for insulting another member. The offense was spotlit in the thread. Please do tell me how it wasn't an insult. The week suspension that followed was not issued by me. Both over and done. I'm moving on; I suggest you do the same.
Quote:6 pages of Evenbob "edification" including crapping on darkoz
EB craps on Darkoz (your words)
I was implying you are shitting on DarkOz
Such vivid imagery comes to mind,
I'm seeing Medieval shaming
punishments, & frat house initiation
rituals. Was that the intention,
because it's working.. And I never
even used any word implying
such a thing..
Quote: EvenBobThey aren't to edify you, why would
I possibly care about that. It's all
about SELF edification. Always post
for yourself and never think about
who reads them. It's the only way
to be authentic.
Sounds like a good argument for the Nathan & Evenbob Corner.
Quote: EvenBobII post for
my own edification, I've said that
many times. Here, I'll give you the
definition of edification to save you
the trouble of looking it up:
ed·i·fi·ca·tion
/ˌedəfəˈkāSH(ə)n/Submit
the instruction or improvement of a person
EB - re this post - were you thinking that you are really smart because you know the definition of 𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘧𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 and you think that others don't.......?
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Quote: darkozWell here it is. How I came to be homeless and then AP
Some people speculated I had problems with drugs and/or alcohol to find myself homeless. I showed some of those posts this week to friends and family who couldn't stop laughing
I have NEVER tasted alcohol
Never smoked a cigarette or puffed a joint
Never been high in anyway aside from sex and gambling highs
One friend quipped a drug test on me would only find toxic levels of Doritos and Pepsicola
I also have never tasted hot coffee, hot tea or hot chocolate.
Im known to eat chef boyardee cold out of a can. I have a weird palate. And I always have felt I am an easily addicted person. Ironically that has made me extremely immune to addiction since I refuse to even try anything
Anyway here is my story
Through the 90's I worked my way up in the specialized field of negative cutting in motion pictures.
A negative cutter physically cuts the scenes from a camera roll and places them in order. Then cement splices them so the finished film can be printed at the lab for theatrical screening
Like tearing the Mona Lisa while trying to frame it I was being trusted not to cut the film in the wrong spot sometimes with $150 million dollar negatives.
If the film was one frame off the synch would be wobbly. Two frames and the film was out of synch noticeable to the naked eye.
If I had a film with 3000 cuts and I got 2,999 correct and one wrong I usually was threatened with a lawsuit. I was dealing with temperamental film artists and very powerful people
If my splices opened up while running through a lab printer entire feet could be destroyed. Labs refused films cut by people they didnt trust because they too could face lawsuits.
As a result I had a zero advertising expense budget. I came highly recommended by the labs. I was insanely busy.
I also was able to charge a lot due to all the perfectionist niche examples I gave above. Usually I made between $20,000 and $50,000 per month.
My dad moved from NY to Hollywood when he graduated from HS around 1920 to be a part of the motion picture industry. He knew nothing about making movies. I believe he went to 20th Century Fox employment with a pair of scissors in his shirt pocket and told them he was a "cutter." They hired him on the spot. He knew nothing about being a "cutter." He learned and became head of a company called National Screen Service and captured the postproduction of many studio projects. I was raised in that culture and my father's success is something I am very proud. So many great stories. memories, and friendships.
tuttigym
Quote: TumblingBonesA good friend of mine is 2nd generation Hollywood (his father was in the biz and now he is CTO for one of the major post-production companies). He has told me a few stories about growing up in Beverley Hills but the best one is about his mother during WW2 car-pooling to Civil Defense meetings with Harpo and Chico Marx. Apparently they were just as nuts and out of control in real-life as they were in their movies. She was always laughing so hard that she viewed it as a major victory if she could exit the car without help.
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Do you remember the name of the post-production company?
tuttigym
Quote: tuttigymDo you remember the name of the post-production company?
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Pixelogic
Quote: darkozQuote: MDawg
Your story is a instructive in two ways, as what not to do and what to do. What not to do is to let yourself get homeless in the first place, through inability to reposition when the paradigm shifts. What to do would be in figuring out how to do something entirely different to get off the streets.
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Your what not to do is meaningless. People often find themselves homeless without intentions. I imagine all the people in war torn areas will feel insulted because they did everything to avoid homelessness only to discover themselves on the run from an invading power.
That wasn't my reason but I am just making a point that it's sometimes easier said than done to avoid it.
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Quote: EvenBobQuote:Then in late 2004 the labs perfected scanning entire rolls of negative to digital.
And you didn't see this coming. My brother
owned a camera store from the late 80s till
2005. He totally saw digital coming and
ruining his business years before it happened.
He saw that digital cameras who's showing
up everywhere, you could buy them in all
kinds of places. Camera stores would soon
be obsolete, so he got out and lost nothing.
How is it that you were in this business making
all this money and was taken totally by surprise.
As far as making a movie goes, I'm not in that
business at all, and even I know how almost
impossible it is not only to get a movie made,
but to make a profit.
You lost tens of thousands, that's all? That's
nothing, people routinely lose hundreds of
thousands and the movie never gets made. If
you really were homeless for as long as you
say, you have nobody to blame but the
ridiculous decisions you made along the way.
If this story is true, I totally believe your robbery
story. The person who let that happen, is exactly
the type of person who would blindly drive
himself into homelessness by making one
reckless decision after another.
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Quote: darkozQuote: gamerfreakNot being critical, but what kind of lifestyle were you living with $50k/month to where you were out on the street so quickly after losing your golden goose?
Well $20k to $50k. It all depended on the film and schedule.
Lets see
2 apartments on different coasts. Lots of travel back and forth
A time share in florida
Disney vacations naturally
A collection of antique pinball and arcade machines
Approximately 30% of my income to child support for my 2 children.
Government taxes naturally
And the Dark Oz investment
I had money for a rainy day
A rainy year
But not a rainy decade
Also it was only about 3 years I was at that level. Remember I didnt start my career as a negative cutter being entrusted with hundred million dollar negatives.
It was a 12 year journey to get to that position.
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What has changed, if anything?
I had a teammate in college who sold Encyclopedia Britannica. He dropped out after our Junior year because he figured he'd make more money selling the books than wasting another year in school.
I love it when a well-thought-out plan gels.
Quote: MDawgI believe he has clarified that it was 20 - 50K a month. But not every month. Some months 0. That's the movie business.
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I thought that was with his team of cracker jack multicarders., not his film career., or as a free lance medical researcher.
<<Yes, I pretty much come from the film mentality of income. For months someone can be making $20,000 a month and then nothing for the hiatus where they await their next project.>>
was what he said.
Quote: MDawgHe and I discussed this in early 2021, at least on another forum maybe also here.
<<Yes, I pretty much come from the film mentality of income. For months someone can be making $20,000 a month and then nothing for the hiatus where they await their next project.>>
was what he said.
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How bizarre.
Quote: billryanQuote: MDawgHe and I discussed this in early 2021, at least on another forum maybe also here.
<<Yes, I pretty much come from the film mentality of income. For months someone can be making $20,000 a month and then nothing for the hiatus where they await their next project.>>
was what he said.
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How bizarre.
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Why is that bizarre?
A person gets hired for maybe Terminator 6 and when it's over has to reach out to his contacts that he is available for another picture.
Cameramen and other production duty and post production duty people almost never have ongoing employment contracts. It's very similar to actors looking for their next gig.
tuttigym
Quote: tuttigymHey DO, Are you familiar with the post production company Pacific Title located in Hollywood on Santa Monica near Vine St.?
tuttigym
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I know of them. I never worked with them.
