The truth about marriage

Quote: EvenBob

With a built in pre-nup. It would put
divorce lawyers out of business.

But, who would argue the pre-nup was unconscionable 😛

Quote: EvenBob

And the first rule of business is, never take
on a partner. I've had a couple and they
never work out. The first one I had I hated
so badly I actually told him to his face that
that he was a selfish, lazy, lying jerk.

In a marriage it's even worse, you have to
see them every day and sleep with them. Cary
Grant, who married 4-5 times, said the
problem with marriage was the dailiness
of it. You eat breakfast with them, and
dinner, and sit around in the evening and
then have to sleep with them all night.

What about being "weekend married" - live separately from M-F then Friday after work you are together for the weekend - absence makes the heart grow fonder - but also gives plenty of opportunity during the week to cheat LOL

That's called dating spades.

Quote: rainman

That's called dating spades.

Exactly!

Quote: aceofspades

What about being "weekend married" - live separately from M-F then Friday after work you are together for the weekend - absence makes the heart grow fonder - but also gives plenty of opportunity during the week to cheat LOL

My insurance agent told me that's very
common now. Husband and wife have
good jobs in different cities and only
see each other on weekends, or every
other weekend. It's typically the woman
who stays home with the kids, and the
husband who has the out of town job.

But with two huge incomes, they live
a lifestyle way above average.

Quote: EvenBob

Husband and wife have
good jobs in different cities and only
see each other on weekends, or every
other weekend.

That's the arrangement my cousin in Germany has.

Quote: Wizard

That's the arrangement my cousin in Germany has.

These people are generally happy, they
never see each other for long enough
to get sick of the relationship.

One of my favorite true sayings is,
somewhere is the most beautiful
woman in the world. And the guy
who's tired of making love to her.
Because no matter what they look
like, women are usually boring to
men eventually. And vice versa..

Quote: EvenBob

My insurance agent told me that's very common now. Husband and wife have good jobs in different cities and only see each other on weekends, or every
other weekend.

That still requires two high paying jobs, which doesn't apply to most couples. For everyone else, how about just separate bedrooms? For most of history the husband and wife shared a bed only if they were poor. But now you can find two bedroom apartments at Budget Suites.

Then next step for people with two ok jobs would be owning one property with two buildings on it. I've always thought that would be a great way to handle a family cycle. Each person can get one for their own needs, or they can rent out one when needed, possibly turn one into a kids / teens / hobby area, then go back to each one having their own place as things change again. Given how common it is to find big houses, especially in a place like the Las Vegas valley where their is no premium on land, it seems like that should be a lot more popular

Years of watching married couple sleep in separate beds on television convinced me my parents really were poor. They could only afford one bed.

Quote: TomG

That still requires two high paying jobs, which doesn't apply to most couples. For everyone else, how about just separate bedrooms? For most of history the husband and wife shared a bed only if they were poor. But now you can find two bedroom apartments at Budget Suites.

Then next step for people with two ok jobs would be owning one property with two buildings on it. I've always thought that would be a great way to handle a family cycle. Each person can get one for their own needs, or they can rent out one when needed, possibly turn one into a kids / teens / hobby area, then go back to each one having their own place as things change again. Given how common it is to find big houses, especially in a place like the Las Vegas valley where their is no premium on land, it seems like that should be a lot more popular

Duplex is ideal. Have your own space, have a connecting door so it's easy to be together when you want to. 2.kitchens, 2 bathrooms.

Quote: beachbumbabs

Duplex is ideal. Have your own space, have a connecting door so it's easy to be together when you want to. 2.kitchens, 2 bathrooms.

The husband's kitchen won't get touched, he'll beg to be fed by his wife.

Quote: TomG

Then next step for people with two ok jobs would be owning one property with two buildings on it.

My wife and I have different houses and
haven't lived together in a long time. I
go months without even seeing her.
We text and email, very rarely speak
on the phone.

When a tell men about this, they often
say "How can I get that deal". lol

Why don't you divorce her?

Sounds like there is little "there" there for you.

If you add up the time spent together in infrequent visit type marriage does it still work out about the same?


Ex. 20 years married , actual time together 10

Ex 2, 50 years married, mostly weekends, actual time together 10.


Both get divorced with same actual time spent together.

What I find hilarious is im the one thats wrong, right? Meanwhile everyone posting is currently divorced or has had a divorce, and the other ones are probably secretly miserable in their marriages and it's not as happy as it 'looks' or perceived by the outside world. This all has to do because no one follows or will follow my advice, so keep living in denial.

Marriage is completely un-natural, but with that being said, it still CAN work, but NOT in this current societal model that has been shoved down our throats. Also because everyone is droned out of their minds, everyone is broke, teen pregnancies with no money, early marriages with no money, buying a house with no money because 'everyone else' does it at a young age; basically a bunch of robots all around us. So because of this, one income is not enough and thats the main problem why marriages fall apart. Roles are diminished and become out of place, women get too full of themselves when their main job in this life is to be a caregiver. That's right feminists, your job in this world is to give birth, raise kids and take care of the house. That might sound shallow, but thats how nature intended it, but society brainwashed all of you. The farther we get away from what nature intended, the more problems occur. Communication issues, resentment of one another, etc are all symptoms of the problem, NOT the cause.

Also who gives a f*** if someone cheats in a relationship. It's completely natural to do so, just look at the animal kingdom, they have sex with whatever they see each day, but once again society brainwashed all of you to make it seem as if cheating is some type of horrible crime. Hilarious. More proof everyone is a droned out brainwashed robot.

Im honestly too smart. People can hate all they want or be in denial, but the fact is im ahead of my time in so many ways. I never even had a job of more than 11 an hour and still managed to get to 60k with no debt, NEVER having a credit card and still dont(how many can say that?), car paid off, no free handouts, working slave labor jobs such as a dishwasher and a delivery driver, etc. How is all of that even possible? Who even has that discipline in society today and the forward thinking as well as the combination of having a true understanding of economics? The only thing people people understand in their 20s are getting drunk, getting girls pregnant, smoking weed, doing drugs, partying all night and being a droned out robot to societal standards and what is deemed to be 'cool'. Then they live the rest of their lives living paycheck to paycheck destroying the economy with loans and credit cards and unconstitutional free handouts from the government and wondering where they went wrong.

God help the future of America. If only cloning existed. I would have to clone myself 300 million times to replace this countrys population to have a chance at bringing this country back to dominance and what our founding fathers envisioned.

Quote: ZenKinG

If only cloning existed. I would have to clone myself 300 million times

What would be the difference, you would
just find fault with all of them.

Quote: ZenKinG

What I find hilarious is im the one thats wrong, right? Meanwhile everyone posting is currently divorced or has had a divorce, and the other ones are probably secretly miserable in their marriages and it's not as happy as it 'looks' or perceived by the outside world. This all has to do because no one follows or will follow my advice, so keep living in denial.

Marriage is completely un-natural, but with that being said, it still CAN work, but NOT in this current societal model that has been shoved down our throats. Also because everyone is droned out of their minds, everyone is broke, teen pregnancies with no money, early marriages with no money, buying a house with no money because 'everyone else' does it at a young age; basically a bunch of robots all around us. So because of this, one income is not enough and thats the main problem why marriages fall apart. Roles are diminished, women get too full of themselves when their main job in this life is to be a caregiver. That's right feminists, your job in this world is to give birth, raise kids and take care of the house. That might sound shallow, but thats how nature intended it, but society brainwashed all of you. The farther we get away from what nature intended, the more problems occur. Communication issues, resentment of one another, etc are all symptoms of the problem, NOT the cause.

Also who gives a f*** if someone cheats in a relationship. It's completely natural to do so, just look at the animal kingdom, they have sex with whatever they see each day, but once again society brainwashed all of you to make it seem as if cheating is some type of horrible crime. Hilarious. More proof everyone is a droned out brainwashed robot.

Im honestly too smart. People can hate all they want or be in denial, but the fact is im ahead of my time in so many ways. I never even had a job of more than 11 an hour and still managed to get to 60k with no debt, NEVER having a credit card and still dont(how many can say that?), car paid off, no free handouts, working slave labor jobs such as a dishwasher and a delivery driver, etc. How is all of that even possible? Who even has that discipline in society today and the forward thinking as well as the combination of having a true understanding of economics? The only thing people people understand in their 20s are getting drunk, getting girls pregnant, smoking weed, doing drugs, partying all night and being a droned out robot to societal standards and what is deemed to be 'cool'. Then they live the rest of their lives living paycheck to paycheck destroying the economy with loans and credit cards and unconstitutional free handouts from the government and wondering where they went wrong.

God help the future of America. If only cloning existed. I would have to clone myself 300 million times to replace this countrys population to have a chance at bringing this country back to dominance and what our founding fathers envisioned.

Does your back hurt from carrying the weight of your ego?

I know plenty of people in their 20s who currently are either pursuing higher degrees, have finished them or are working hard in high paying positions. I'm not one of them, because I value my free time above almost everything else and don't want the debt.

Your generalizations on marriage, millennials, society and casinos are inaccurate and considering other viewpoints as being plausible rather than just yours as correct will not make you a "drone."

Quote: Minty

Does your back hurt from carrying the weight of your ego?

I know plenty of people in their 20s who currently are either pursuing higher degrees, have finished them or are working hard in high paying positions. I'm not one of them, because I value my free time above almost everything else and don't want the debt.

Your generalizations on marriage, millennials, society and casinos are inaccurate and considering other viewpoints as being plausible rather than just yours as correct will not make you a "drone."

And all those people are in debt and destroying the economy. Let me know if you find someone who got to 60k by himself never having a real 'job', never having a credit card, never getting a handout, and making 58k from blackjack part time with an average bet of maybe 150 if you take all the resizes ive done. Not to mention im underperformig EV by 1/3. Not to mention i was breakeven after 600 HOURS. How did I still keep going? I have the discipline of a lion on steroids.

Anyone can get a degree and sit in an office their whole life, but tell me how many can accomplish what ive accomplished. You act like pursuing a higher degree is sonething to be proud about. These people will be on their death beds reqlizing they did nothing with their lives that they coukd really be proud about, something different than the norm, etc. I have a business degree as well and I couldnt care less about it. I couldve gone into an office like a drone and collect a paycheck the rest of my life, but that's not life to me. Experiences and time are much more important to me than money. Getting a degree also has nothing to do with intelligence regardless if you get your doctorate or your PHD, getting a degree is just about memorizing information being given to you and studying it to the point that you become a drone to the topic at hand to pass the test. It has no bearing on real intelligence, but society makes that to be the case and everyone like usual bought the koolaid cause they're robots. I didnt even want to go to school but my parents forced me. I would have never paid for school cause I already had such a bright head on my shoulders.

To you this is ego, but to me it's just facts. I didnt even mention im cursed and i walk on eggshells my whole life. After this post of what this world claims is egotistical self loathing, bad karma is heading my way. Life sure is fair.

Quote: ZenKinG

everyone is droned out of their minds, everyone is broke,

Not quite "everyone:" I'm often stoned out of my mind, yet I'm far from broke (my net worth is in the seven figure range).

Happily married, too.

Quote: ZenKinG

Anyone can get a degree and sit in an office their whole life, but tell me how many can accomplish what ive accomplished.

I don't see that you've accomplished anything of value; hell, you're still single and childless.

Get with the program.

Quote: MrV

Not quite "everyone:" I'm often stoned out of my mind, yet I'm far from broke (my net worth is in the seven figure range).

Happily married, too.



I don't see that you've accomplished anything of value; hell, you're still single and childless.

Get with the program.

Ive accomplished nothing of value? Why is that? Is it because i dont have 5 kids before the age of 30 before one is properly financed or is it because I dont have a house because I refuse to pay for it since I dont want to sign a 30 year mortgage that will imprison me like a slave for the rest of my life? Is that what being 'accomplished' in today's mean to you and everyone else? Sorry i dont live my life by what society thinks or wants me to do. I beat to my own drum and thats exactly why i have the freedom many my age would love to have. I run the 'program'.

You're swimming in the shallow end of human existence.

Oh sure, your current activity might be "fun" for you but it is neither meaningful nor worthwhile to society.

For that, you need to reproduce, or adopt and raise children: THAT is where the rubber meets the road, and it is the highest and best purpose of any member of any society: hell, it's the meaning of life.

Quote: ZenKinG

And all those people are in debt and destroying the economy. Let me know if you find someone who got to 60k by himself never having a real 'job', never having a credit card, never getting a handout, and making 58k from blackjack part time with an average bet of maybe 150 if you take all the resizes ive done. Not to mention im underperformig EV by 1/3. Not to mention i was breakeven after 600 HOURS. How did I still keep going? I have the discipline of a lion on steroids.

Anyone can get a degree and sit in an office their whole life, but tell me how many can accomplish what ive accomplished. You act like pursuing a higher degree is sonething to be proud about. These people will be on their death beds reqlizing they did nothing with their lives that they coukd really be proud about, something different than the norm, etc. I have a business degree as well and I couldnt care less about it. I couldve gone into an office like a drone and collect a paycheck the rest of my life, but that's not life to me. Experiences and time are much more important to me than money. Getting a degree also has nothing to do with intelligence regardless if you get your doctorate or your PHD, getting a degree is just about memorizing information being given to you and studying it to the point that you become a drone to the topic at hand to pass the test. It has no bearing on real intelligence, but society makes that to be the case and everyone like usual bought the koolaid cause they're robots. I didnt even want to go to school but my parents forced me. I would have never paid for school cause I already had such a bright head on my shoulders.

To you this is ego, but to me it's just facts. I didnt even mention im cursed and i walk on eggshells my whole life. After this post of what this world claims is egotistical self loathing, bad karma is heading my way. Life sure is fair.

The problem is that you think you have accomplished something.
Please answer a simple question- For all your pontificating, name something you have accomplished in the two years you have lived in Vegas.
Perhaps I've missed it. I'm not talking about what you did in the past in another life, but since you arrived in town.

Quote: MrV

You're swimming in the shallow end of human existence.

Oh sure, your current activity might be "fun" for you but it is neither meaningful nor worthwhile to society.

For that, you need to reproduce, or adopt and raise children: THAT is where the rubber meets the road, and it is the highest and best purpose of any member of any society: hell, it's the meaning of life.

Society is already destroyed anyway. All I see is a destructive gene and a brainwashed society with horrific values and morals that im doing a favor to my future children to not be a part of. Who the hell wants to be part of this immoral destructive stereotypical brainwashed society with an economy spiraling out of control with an inflation rate getting higher and higher by the decade to the point everyone will be in poverty soon. Just look at the middle class, it's already been eradicated.

Not to mention 99% of women are droned out of their minds so it's kind of hard to find a woman. If she has a tattoo, im not interested. If she cant recite the Bill of Rights, im not interested. If she cant cook, clean and understand true economics, im not interested. If she cant understand what I do for a living, im not interested. If she knows who Kanye West is, but doesnt know who James Madison or Thomas Jefferson is or what they did, then im not interested. If she doesnt know what the Federalist Papers are, im not interested.

All of the above are vital criteria or else the offspring and gene pool will be poisoned for generations to come amd society will keep pushing to lower lows, but according to Mr.V it's better to just push out these children left and right regardless, because thats the 'meaning of life'. I guess it's better to push out children with parents who dont have any idea of what theyre doing or how to educate their children and instill the proper values in them. I guess it's okay to push out chikdren while youre living in property and living paycheck to paycheck your whole life with a crippling mortgage over your head.

I wanna know more about this whole cloning ZK 300 million times and repopulating the USA like the founding fathers intended.

Quote: billryan

The problem is that you think you have accomplished something.
Please answer a simple question- For all your pontificating, name something you have accomplished in the two years you have lived in Vegas.
Perhaps I've missed it. I'm not talking about what you did in the past in another life, but since you arrived in town.

Made 5 figures part time doing what i want, waking up when i want, 'working' when I want. Imagine if I actually wanted to play more? Oh wait, thats a 'choice' i have unlike many people living paycheck to paycheck.

Oh yeah, also made 5k through video game tournaments on the side.

Sorry bud but are you actually bragging about making 5 figures?

I have a bunch of other stuff to say but I’m not in the mood for an arguement lol. Let’s just say you and I have a very different outlook on life.

Quote: ZenKinG

Made 5 figures part time doing what i want, waking up when i want, 'working' when I want. Imagine if I actually wanted to play more? Oh wait, thats a 'choice' i have unlike many people living paycheck to paycheck.

Doing what you want, when you want, is an accomplishment? It's a nice way to live, almost exactly what I do. The big difference is I'm retired and living off my investments. Where is your retirement income going to come from? Do you plan on living in a furnished weekly forever?

Quote: PokerGrinder

Sorry bud but are you actually bragging about making 5 figures?

I have a bunch of other stuff to say but I’m not in the mood for an arguement lol. Let’s just say you and I have a very different outlook on life.

Let me guess, u want to make 10 figures and by the time ur on ur death bed like the rest of us, you take none of that illusion with you to the afterlife. Time and life experience trumps the digits in your bank account. These billionaires dont even use 90% of their wealth in their lifetime anyway, but theyve been brainwashed to keep chasing it. It becomes an endless struggle of never having enough. I feel so bad for them.

Quote: billryan

Doing what you want, when you want, is an accomplishment? It's a nice way to live, almost exactly what I do. The big difference is I'm retired and living off my investments. Where is your retirement income going to come from? Do you plan on living in a furnished weekly forever?

First off, i plan on investing soon enough into these 3 index funds ive been researching for some time now.

Secondly, retirement is a state of mind and how you live your life. Im already retired as well. Retiring based on the digits in your bank account is exactly why everyone who 'retires' is bored out of their minds and wondering where they went wrong because the illusion of retirement that was sold to them is not what they expected it to be.

Quote: ZenKinG

Let me guess, u want to make 10 figures and by the time ur on ur death bed like the rest of us, you take none of that illusion with you to the afterlife. Time and life experience trumps the digits in your bank account. These billionaires dont even use 90% of their wealth in their lifetime anyway, but theyve been brainwashed to keep chasing it. It becomes an endless struggle of never having enough. I feel so bad for them.

“Time and life experience trumps the digits in your bank account”

I travel the world literally half the year and the other half I “work” when I feel like it.

In the last twelve months I have visited 13 countries and I will be visiting 4 more in the next month, if those aren’t life experiences then I don’t know what are.

Forget index funds. Find the next LOCK OF THE CENTURY.

Quote: PokerGrinder

“Time and life experience trumps the digits in your bank account”

I travel the world literally half the year and the other half I “work” when I feel like it.

In the last twelve months I have visited 13 countries and I will be visiting 4 more in the next month, if those aren’t life experiences then I don’t know what are.

So why did you bring up 5 figures as if to say that matters at all? #ContradictionProblems

Quote: ZenKinG

So why did you bring up 5 figures as if to say that matters at all? #ContradictionProblems

You are the one that brought up 5 figures as an accomplishment . . .

Quote: unJon

You are the one that brought up 5 figures as an accomplishment . . .

This ^^^

Quote: PokerGrinder

In the last twelve months I have visited 13 countries

That's more of a punishment than a
treat. If it's at all hot, I'm miserable.
If it's humid, I's suffering. If I'm at
all inconvenienced, I'm miserable.

I got travel out of my system at
an early age, and I hated it. I'd
much rather stay home and read
a book. Mark Twain felt the same
way, that travel was way overrated.

I'm kind of at odds with all the claims. I'm not a Buddhist but supposedly he walked off with nothing and was happier than the entire lot of you.

Not really my bag either, just sayin'

Quote: ZenKinG

Let me guess, u want to make 10 figures and by the time ur on ur death bed like the rest of us, you take none of that illusion with you to the afterlife. Time and life experience trumps the digits in your bank account. These billionaires dont even use 90% of their wealth in their lifetime anyway, but theyve been brainwashed to keep chasing it. It becomes an endless struggle of never having enough. I feel so bad for them.

Have you ever considered becoming a fortune teller ?

There are a lot of people who want to know what their future holds.

Quote: MrV

I don't see that you've accomplished anything of value; hell, you're still single and childless.

I hate this kind of modern claptrap. The
vast majority of people living now and
that lived in the past accomplished
nothing of real value, except surviving
from day to day.

Having kids is not an accomplishment
because most of those kids will do
nothing important and just take up
space the same as the parents are.

Albert Einstein's mom did good, she
gave birth to Albert. Hitler's mom,
not so much. It's the joke of modern
society, now that we don't fight for
survival everyday. We have to lead
'meaningful' lives and 'accomplish'
things.

Baloney.

We are genetically predisposed.

I think we can all agree these girls out here need to quit it with the tattoos.

Quote: EvenBob

I hate this kind of modern claptrap. The
vast majority of people living now and
that lived in the past accomplished
nothing of real value, except surviving
from day to day.

Having kids is not an accomplishment
because most of those kids will do
nothing important and just take up
space the same as the parents are.

Albert Einstein's mom did good, she
gave birth to Albert. Hitler's mom,
not so much. It's the joke of modern
society, now that we don't fight for
survival everyday. We have to lead
'meaningful' lives and 'accomplish'
things.

Baloney.

Agreed that having kids is nothing exciting. If anything, adopting might be something to be proud of since you're not actively contributing to overpopulation, but still. I think a lot of the milestones people use to mark a life as successful aren't for everyone.

Quote: Minty

people use to mark a life as successful aren't for everyone.

If you can live your life and cause
a minimum amount of stress to
others, that's a successful life.

Quote: PokerGrinder

This ^^^

Whatever makes you happy. First, I'm glad that ZK has it all figured out. He got in a car and decided what he wanted to do with his life is count cards in las Vegas, play some video games, and stay single. He calls this an accomplishment. He decided that people who get a regular job after college or fall in love got it all wrong.

There are plenty of people who liked going to college, enjoy their careers and like what they are doing for a living. There are lots of people who think that having children and getting married are worthwhile pursuits. There are actually lots of older married happy people. I would suggest they are probably spending their Saturday nights doing something else than writing on this stupid forum.

Just because people hold a job doesn't mean that they are miserable. Quite the contrary.

I mean big whoop. Feel free to let us know when you actually do something.

Don't get me wrong. I just don't have the audacity to claim that I've got it all figured out. Personally, I'm happy that I dont!

“When I was 5 years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down ‘happy’. They told me I didn’t understand the assignment, and I told them they didn’t understand life.” John Lennon

Bobby,

no, no. It's this....

For every supermodel...
There's is some guy tired of F***ing her.
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She is probably too fat. (LOL, thats an instant BBB trigger).

Quote: billryan

“When I was 5 years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down ‘happy’. They told me I didn’t understand the assignment, and I told them they didn’t understand life.” John Lennon

Yeah, but what did he accomplish? He married a beatch who broke up the best band in the world and ended up getting killed at age 40.

Quote: EvenBob

Having kids is not an accomplishment

Of course it is, at least biologically and evolutionarily speaking.

As a young man I read Camus, Hesse et al in college and concluded that there was really no real "meaning" or ultimate purpose to my life.

Life will have life.

I believe the only real purpose is for life not to die out, otherwise there will be only a dead, sterile universe.

Amoeba, flat worm, or card counter: the name of the game is to pass your genes and / or your values and beliefs on to the next generation.

Quote: MrV

Of course it is, at least biologically and evolutionarily speaking.

As a young man I read Camus, Hesse et al in college and concluded that there was really no real "meaning" or ultimate purpose to my life.

Life will have life.

I believe the only real purpose is for life not to die out, otherwise there will be only a dead, sterile universe.

Amoeba, flat worm, or card counter: the name of the game is to pass your genes and / or your values and beliefs on to the next generation.

Nothing like some existential angst over the inevitable heat death of the universe or the half-life of a protons.

Quote: MrV

Of course it is, at least biologically and evolutionarily speaking.

As a young man I read Camus, Hesse et al in college and concluded that there was really no real "meaning" or ultimate purpose to my life.

Life will have life.

I believe the only real purpose is for life not to die out, otherwise there will be only a dead, sterile universe.

Amoeba, flat worm, or card counter: the name of the game is to pass your genes and / or your values and beliefs on to the next generation.

"There will be only a dead, sterile universe"

I thought that happened already. All I see are droned out immoral robots walking around me. Wow, thanks for the heads up, thats news to me.

ZK makes a great argument for gelding, I'll give him that.