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June 14th, 2018 at 12:57:38 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Third choice, keep doing what you're doing. It wont end good. Casino bannings, extreme frustration, depression and an arrest is not far in the future.
ZCore13



Then the dam after that. Don't pull
a Robin Williams/Tony Bourdain, that's
been done to death, pun intended. Try
and be original.
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June 14th, 2018 at 1:44:46 PM permalink
IMO whatever he does I hope in the near future he'll start doing it near some family members who can intervene when the severity of the thing I'm not allowed to say escalates, and who would be motivated enough to do so and to persistently continue to follow through. And not bouncing around as an anonymous individual in the city, or even getting worse faster from some of the kinds of possibly sincere "help" that may come from some WoV "friends" & acquaintances & assorted casino denizens.

Besides that, the advice on taking it easy with gradual experimental jump training heights was one of the most outstanding things I've heard in a long while, and I plan to save/steal it, word for word.
Suck dope, watch TV, make up stuff, be somebody on the internet.
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June 14th, 2018 at 2:31:14 PM permalink
Wait didnt you just post a thread or message the other day saying you were wrong about accusing people. Now a day or so later you post this. Buy there is definitely a word for this, but I can't think of the actual word
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June 14th, 2018 at 3:00:44 PM permalink
Robin Williams situation was a little different wasn’t it? He had a progressive disease? I could be wrong.
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June 14th, 2018 at 3:05:26 PM permalink
Young aspiring card counters out there can learn a valuable lesson from this. The best card counter in the world has raked in 10k from the casinos in just 18 months in Vegas , and yet can’t get a landlord to provide him an apartment.

It’s not all glitz and glamour, even for the upper echelon in the field.
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June 14th, 2018 at 4:10:59 PM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

Robin Williams situation was a little different wasn’t it? He had a progressive disease? I could be wrong.



Still hanged himself, it's all the rage now.
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June 14th, 2018 at 4:51:56 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Should I just jump off hoover dam tomorrow to ease this pain? I just cant take it anymore.



No, that's foolish.

Use the bridge.
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June 14th, 2018 at 6:00:37 PM permalink
Zero ZenKing responses since Romes made his monumental post!

And a pleasure seeing EB arguing with ZK. I pretty much agree with Romes and EB and everyone else, but I think that EB and ZK should both continue to argue with each other until one of them concedes that they are wrong.
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June 14th, 2018 at 6:53:51 PM permalink
I remember the first time I was in
business in Calif. I was 26 and
living just N of San Francisco
near the GG bridge. I was in a
bakery business with a partner
and we could not get credit
extended to us for supplies.

I thought this was the most
unfair thing I ever saw. I
thought we would be respected
as businessmen and treated
with frienship. Instead we were
treated as potential criminals
by other business people.

I was young and naive. I found out
thru time that people like that,
just starting out, are the worst
credit risks, they'll burn you every
time. And we did go out of business,
but not because we owed money.
Nobody would give us any credit.
We went under because my partner
was lazy and would not pull his
weight and I would have killed
him had I stayed there.

So yeah, the world is unfair. But
it's for a reason.
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June 14th, 2018 at 7:00:41 PM permalink
I personally think that Zenking's suggestion that he find a job for two weeks and then quit is a horrible idea. A beyond horrible idea. If I were a landlady, I'd be wary of someone who was hired on say June 14th and quit June 29th. That would be a huge red flag to me. In the back of my mind if I were a potential Landlady, I'd be thinking,"What's to stop Zenking from going AWOL on me and not paying the rent if he quit a job in only two weeks?" I were you, Zenking, I'd find a job and at least work an entire year and live in Hotels for that year while saving up for an apartment. With your Hotel Comps you should be Golden. After that year, I'd have an entire year of employment which looks way better than just two weeks of employment.
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June 14th, 2018 at 7:11:33 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

I personally think that Zenking's suggestion that he find a job for two weeks and then quit is a horrible idea. A beyond horrible idea. If I were a landlady, I'd be wary of someone who was hired on say June 14th and quit June 29th. That would be a huge red flag to me. In the back of my mind if I were a potential Landlady, I'd be thinking,"What's to stop Zenking from going AWOL on me and not paying the rent if he quit a job in only two weeks?" I were you, Zenking, I'd find a job and at least work an entire year and live in Hotels for that year while saving up for an apartment. With your Hotel Comps you should be Golden. After that year, I'd have an entire year of employment which looks way better than just two weeks of employment.



Finally a voice of reason!
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June 14th, 2018 at 7:13:56 PM permalink
Jobs are for suckers who can't count cards...or want a place to live
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June 14th, 2018 at 7:38:42 PM permalink
Or....buy a modest townhouse and have a mortgage that is half what your rent would be for double the house (while keeping some equity).

But ZK won’t get a mortgage because he doesn’t believe in the system. Good luck paying cash for a house green chipping.
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June 14th, 2018 at 7:38:58 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

No tax records? It sounds like your credit history isn't up to snuff. There are companies who will act as a cosigner for you. It's not cheap but a year or two with them should build your credit enough for your next place. Hopefully, you'll pay cash for a house in a few years.




This is true. I don't know how but a friend of mine when to somebody who did "credit repair" with terrible credit and purchased a Mercedes on credit a month later.
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June 14th, 2018 at 7:47:09 PM permalink
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Should I just jump off hoover dam tomorrow to ease this pain? I just cant take it anymore.



Please PM me. Let's have another lunch.
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June 14th, 2018 at 8:14:12 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

I personally think that Zenking's suggestion that he find a job for two weeks and then quit is a horrible idea. A beyond horrible idea. If I were a landlady, I'd be wary of someone who was hired on say June 14th and quit June 29th. That would be a huge red flag to me. In the back of my mind if I were a potential Landlady, I'd be thinking,"What's to stop Zenking from going AWOL on me and not paying the rent if he quit a job in only two weeks?" I were you, Zenking, I'd find a job and at least work an entire year and live in Hotels for that year while saving up for an apartment. With your Hotel Comps you should be Golden. After that year, I'd have an entire year of employment which looks way better than just two weeks of employment.

Do you think you can hook him up with a job at Walgreens?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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June 14th, 2018 at 8:20:30 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG



Should I just jump off hoover dam tomorrow to ease this pain? I just cant take it anymore.



:( Please don't do that. It's not worth it. Talk to people and tell them how you are feeling. You'll feel better once you open up about it.
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June 14th, 2018 at 8:22:36 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Do you think you can hook him up with a job at Walgreens?



Walgreen's is in the pits right now. Hours are being cut and less and less people are shopping. That should have been reversed, but I'm keeping it the way I wrote it. ;)
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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June 14th, 2018 at 8:27:45 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

Walgreen's is in the pits right now. Hours are being cut and less and less people are shopping. That should have been reversed, but I'm keeping it the way I wrote it. ;)

Ya, but you don't understand, ZK can turn that joint around, just ask him.
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June 14th, 2018 at 9:48:47 PM permalink
Come up to Reno, 5 star resort living and they offer 3-6-9-12 month leases. Of course the BJ options will not be as plentiful as in Vegas.
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June 14th, 2018 at 9:57:02 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

Walgreen's is in the pits right now. Hours are being cut and less and less people are shopping. That should have been reversed, but I'm keeping it the way I wrote it. ;)




I live by a Walgreens that’s doing very well. Constantly busy, recently became an open 24 hours store
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June 14th, 2018 at 10:24:03 PM permalink
Seriously ZK you need to get into somthing like this.

Not this one obviously but if you spend enough time looking I bet you could find one in a nice neighborhood especially if you pay 4 months in advance.

I'm sure there's some creepy guy renting this one since he says ****PREFERS WOMEN ONLY****


available now

furnished
apartment


Guest house (casita) in very good condition, fully furnished with a small kitchen and private entry separate from Main House. With a swimming pool in the front and a great view!
***$595 per month ALL UTILITIES INCLUDED***

p.s. I might have a Garage for rent for cheap. NVM, I forgot, you don't have any credit.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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June 14th, 2018 at 11:20:06 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

I live by a Walgreens that’s doing very well. Constantly busy, recently became an open 24 hours store



The Walgreens where I live rocks.
The parking lot is always full, there
is always lines at the store registers.
Sometimes I can't even find a
parking space.
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June 15th, 2018 at 5:32:22 AM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Quote: Keeneone

This is a good "problem" to have. Many have offered good advice/opinions in this thread.
Exactly. There are plenty of properties/landlords/property management companies in the valley willing to work with renters. Cash is king. Call first, get the details, visit the property multiple times (if needed), talk to "future" neighbors (if possible). Invest a little time and things may work out...



That's news to me. Again, I have mentioned apartments have told me they WILL rent to me as long as I pay the FULL lease upfront. The problem is that's completely unethical and illogical for me to have to do that considering my financial situation especially in comparison to the ones who get approved, so I decline. I also am not willing to give a portion of my bankroll upfront and having to potentially lower my stakes in blackjack.

I tell the apartment I will show my bank statements that meets the 3x rent criteria, i have no debt, i have 1 year of perfect rental history(how many that get approved can say all of that?), but just because I don't have a paystub or proof of income, I have to pay everything upfront or get shown the door.



Buy a motor home and live in it
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June 15th, 2018 at 5:33:43 AM permalink
Quote: michael99000

I live by a Walgreens that’s doing very well. Constantly busy, recently became an open 24 hours store



As a company with amazon debating getting into the pharmacy business walgreens and CVS could be in come financial trouble if thy do
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June 15th, 2018 at 5:39:02 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

Finally a voice of reason!



He didn't say quit the job then get the apartment. He was saying get a job, then get a lease, then quit the job. If he goes this route it will establish some credit for him. He has none would be my guess if he has o bills no CC etc.

What he is not considering by grinding full time with no Job is he will have no SS, no retirement (cant contribute to an IRA with no taxable income) so for that reason he needs to drive uber a couple nights a week if nothing else so he has some taxable earnings so he can get a roth IRA
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June 15th, 2018 at 6:31:45 AM permalink
In the past, renting or paying lease on your rental units were never part of factoring your credit,because it was never reported unless you did something negative. Today, most properties will report to the credit agencies upon your request, so by renting from a formal rental business property vs a private party, you can establish great credit by getting an apartment, even if it's for six months, but preferably a year will really get you a better score. Something to think about.....you can kill two birds with one stone if you do ended paying up front, even if its for six months. Like I said, Reno with so many contractors here flooding the rental market, 3 - 6 months lease are the norm.
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June 15th, 2018 at 11:23:35 AM permalink
Quote: troopscott

He didn't say quit the job then get the apartment. He was saying get a job, then get a lease, then quit the job. If he goes this route it will establish some credit for him. He has none would be my guess if he has o bills no CC etc.

What he is not considering by grinding full time with no Job is he will have no SS, no retirement (cant contribute to an IRA with no taxable income) so for that reason he needs to drive uber a couple nights a week if nothing else so he has some taxable earnings so he can get a roth IRA



If he is a winning player then he should be paying taxes and would have a taxable income. Considering that he has never complained about writing a quarterly check to the IRS I am pretty sure that he is not.
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June 15th, 2018 at 11:47:17 AM permalink
Paying your rent on time in a weekly or monthly is not a big accomplishment. Don't pay it and you get evicted.
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June 15th, 2018 at 12:46:56 PM permalink
So ZK posts this thread, and we all
respond for pages and pages,
and his last post here was yesterday
morning? Really? And he was here
today, it says he visited the forum
on 6/15. If you're not going to
participate in the threads you start
about your own personal life, quit
posting them.
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June 15th, 2018 at 12:50:38 PM permalink
Join the military, ZK.

National Guard or Reserve, at least.
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June 15th, 2018 at 12:56:57 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Join the military, ZK.

National Guard or Reserve, at least.



Great idea. Learn some self control, discipline, hard work, build some credit and savings, get free job training and college.

My Son was in 4 1/2 years. He was an Army Ranger. Now goes to college free for computer science plus gets some living expense. And just about every job he applies for he gets an immediate interview.


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June 15th, 2018 at 2:06:48 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Seriously ZK you need to get into somthing like this.

Not this one obviously but if you spend enough time looking I bet you could find one in a nice neighborhood especially if you pay 4 months in advance.

I'm sure there's some creepy guy renting this one since he says ****PREFERS WOMEN ONLY****


available now

furnished
apartment


Guest house (casita) in very good condition, fully furnished with a small kitchen and private entry separate from Main House. With a swimming pool in the front and a great view!
***$595 per month ALL UTILITIES INCLUDED***

p.s. I might have a Garage for rent for cheap. NVM, I forgot, you don't have any credit.



This is exactly what I was talking about. I did this in Hawaii, worked great. Look for those kind of ads, private entrance to house, kitchenette, etc.
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June 15th, 2018 at 3:32:53 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Great idea. Learn some self control, discipline, hard work, build some credit and savings, get free job training and college.



If he has problems with the rules and regs
in civilian life, he won't last a month
in the military. They are all about rules,
and many of them don't make sense.
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June 15th, 2018 at 4:19:35 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

If he has problems with the rules and regs
in civilian life, he won't last a month
in the military. They are all about rules,
and many of them don't make sense.



True, and I would take it a step further. Many of them are completely arbitrary and capricious, because what they're trying to do when you join the military is break you so they can remake you.

They want you to leave there (boot camp, re:first month) willing to:

Obey orders without thought, immediately, without having to know why.

Run into danger and stay to fight, when your brain is trying to make you take flight.

And most importantly, to make your loyalty to your unit and brothers-in-arms more important than your own life.

None of that is natural. All of it is necessary.
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June 15th, 2018 at 4:53:03 PM permalink
Most important thing I learned in the Army was to make my bed every day.
Learning to shoot, to strip a weapon blindfolded or in total darkness, and Australian rappeling from a helo was all good funn, and the connections I made are priceless but the whole bed thing was by far the best thing I learned.
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June 15th, 2018 at 5:11:15 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Most important thing I learned in the Army was to make my bed every day.
Learning to shoot, to strip a weapon blindfolded or in total darkness, and Australian rappeling from a helo was all good funn, and the connections I made are priceless but the whole bed thing was by far the best thing I learned.


I think making a bed is stupid. I know military guys have this whole philosophical reason as to why you should do it every morning, but I don’t think I will ever convert.

First, why go through so much trouble when no one is going to see the bed all day, and then only to mess it up again in the evening?

Second, I had a biology professor in who told us it was unhealthy to make your bed. I’m not sure how true it is, but she said making the bed traps in sweat and body oils and creates a warm, moist, and dark environment which is the perfect breeding ground for bacteria.
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June 15th, 2018 at 5:20:14 PM permalink
I learned from many folks that I ended up at basic and at tech school is: get married ASAP when you get in so you can make more money and live off base
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June 15th, 2018 at 5:59:24 PM permalink
If we are talking about the way it should be, can someone make it so the casino just hands me a few hundred when I show up in the parking lot? They seem to insist I walk in and play the games first. Total crap, and a waste of time for both parties.
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June 15th, 2018 at 6:38:04 PM permalink
Quote: prozema

If we are talking about the way it should be, can someone make it so the casino just hands me a few hundred when I show up in the parking lot?



Where have you been?

Casinos all do that already.

Not in the parking lot, however: it's in the casino itself.

They call it "ATM."
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June 15th, 2018 at 7:15:58 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Most important thing I learned in the Army was to make my bed every day.



And now they say making your bed is the
worst thing to do. If you must do it,
wait 2 hours after you get up for the sheets
to completely dry from whatever moisture
you've put in them sleeping. Making the
bed right away traps the moisture and
causes millions of bacteria to grow.
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June 15th, 2018 at 8:33:31 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

And now they say making your bed is the
worst thing to do. If you must do it,
wait 2 hours after you get up for the sheets
to completely dry from whatever moisture
you've put in them sleeping. Making the
bed right away traps the moisture and
causes millions of bacteria to grow.



I'd suggest you stop listening to them, whomever they are, except the EV( entertainment value) would surely suffer.
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June 15th, 2018 at 8:37:38 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

I'd suggest you stop listening to them, whomever they are, except the EV( entertainment value) would surely suffer.


The national institute of health disagrees:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC99181/
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June 15th, 2018 at 8:56:55 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

The national institute of health disagrees:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC99181/




Seventeen years ago, someone wrote an article in the journal. Was I supposed to be impressed?
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June 15th, 2018 at 9:36:44 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Seventeen years ago, someone wrote an article in the journal. Was I supposed to be impressed?



Maybe just better informed rather than impressed.
DrawingDead
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June 15th, 2018 at 9:37:40 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

The national institute of health disagrees:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC99181/


You really think so? Methinks maybe not so much:

Quote: Robert Patterson and Christopher Stewart-Patterson


...We demand that the federal government enforce an immediate nation-wide ban on bed-making...

...<SNIP>...

...divorce rates will drop (world peace will likely not be far behind), and...

...<SNIP>...

Footnotes

This article was not reviewed by the authors' wives before publication.

Suck dope, watch TV, make up stuff, be somebody on the internet.
billryan
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June 15th, 2018 at 9:53:06 PM permalink
"Public Health series on the Organic Household: Targeting bathroom congestion — innovative uses for the kitchen sink."

Just keep in mind that when the Martians come, it aint going to be Trump that saves you. It aint going to be the Hundred and Worst Airborne. It aint going to be a bunch of Baby Blue Marines.
Its going to be the bacteria and microrobes we are immune to from constant exposure. They are our Guardian Angels
People who don't make their beds are National Security risks.
Should they have jobs? Some might even say they shouldn't be in the country.
Why do you hate your country so?
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June 15th, 2018 at 9:56:53 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

I think making a bed is stupid.....

First, why go through so much trouble when no one is going to see the bed all day, and then only to mess it up again in the evening?


I felt the same way....until I got pets. Now I make the bed.
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billryan
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June 15th, 2018 at 10:33:47 PM permalink
Hotel chambermaids are known to suffer from “bed maker's lung,” a form of allergic alveolitis caused by repeated exposure to dust mite feces.


Now I am both impressed and edjumicated.
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EvenBob
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June 15th, 2018 at 11:03:39 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Hotel chambermaids are known to suffer from “bed maker's lung,” a form of allergic alveolitis caused by repeated exposure to dust mite feces. .



I haven't made my bed in 25 years.
It's a silly waste of time if me and
the dog are the only ones ever in here.
And even tho I didn't know it, I
was doing the right thing.
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