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March 15th, 2018 at 1:53:27 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Genius, I assure you. Pure Genius.
I picked 15-15 because I didn't think it would be Love-30.
I picked Cal State Fullerton as the victor simply because if they make it that far they will have greater motivation than a Top Dog team such as San Diego State.
When does that championship game take place, I'll try to get to a bar with a TV and watch it.



You know this is basketball and not football, right?
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March 15th, 2018 at 2:02:49 PM permalink
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You know this is basketball and not football, right?

NOW you tell me!!!
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March 15th, 2018 at 3:37:23 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Genius, I assure you. Pure Genius.
I picked 15-15 because I didn't think it would be Love-30.
I picked Cal State Fullerton as the victor simply because if they make it that far they will have greater motivation than a Top Dog team such as San Diego State.
When does that championship game take place, I'll try to get to a bar with a TV and watch it.



Well, I can understand predicting the score as 15-15 -that predicted score is only used as a tie breaker if some one gets the same number of points as you. And lets face it, if Fullerton beats San Diego State in the Championship game, you won't need a tiebreaker to win the WOC contest -or the ESPN contest, lol.
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March 15th, 2018 at 3:54:43 PM permalink
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Well, I can understand predicting the score as 15-15 -that predicted score is only used as a tie breaker if some one gets the same number of points as you. And lets face it, if Fullerton beats San Diego State in the Championship game, you won't need a tiebreaker to win the WOC contest -or the ESPN contest, lol.

I guess you missed the 15-15 and Love-30 scores as being TENNIS scoring. "twas a joke.
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March 15th, 2018 at 4:55:09 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

I guess you missed the 15-15 and Love-30 scores as being TENNIS scoring. "twas a joke.



I was going to say that but figured someone can't win 15-15
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March 15th, 2018 at 4:57:28 PM permalink
Btw all brackets are live except for the one with no name. I thought as the group admin I could remove it but there is no option. So just be know that it is a dead entry.
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March 15th, 2018 at 5:47:35 PM permalink
We have 15 brackets at 20 each.

Prize pool is $300 which will be $240 for first and $60 for second unless there is a split.
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March 15th, 2018 at 6:26:21 PM permalink
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Btw all brackets are live.

I chose Miami over Loyola=Chicago but Loyola won 64 to 62.
Guess you guys won't be sending me a bottle of champagne when Fullerton plays San Diego. Oh well. C'est La Vie.
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March 15th, 2018 at 6:43:21 PM permalink
If either Fullerton or San Diego State makes the championship game, I will be happy to send you a bottle of champagne.
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March 15th, 2018 at 7:35:03 PM permalink
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I chose Miami over Loyola=Chicago but Loyola won 64 to 62.
Guess you guys won't be sending me a bottle of champagne when Fullerton plays San Diego. Oh well. C'est La Vie.


I will be impressed, real impressed by anybody that picked Loyola
I hope Loyola wins again. Becoming a fan of Sister Jean
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March 15th, 2018 at 8:23:00 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

We have 15 brackets at 20 each.

Prize pool is $300 which will be $240 for first and $60 for second unless there is a split.



That worked out nicely.
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March 15th, 2018 at 10:23:35 PM permalink
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I will be impressed, real impressed by anybody that picked Loyola
I hope Loyola wins again. Becoming a fan of Sister Jean



I picked Loyola. They're b-ball fanatics. We (Creighton) played them every year 'cuz, you know, Catholic Universities.

Sadly, even if Creighton gets past.their first round (and they were seeded below their RPI - should've been a 6), they have UVA next. Sigh. Had to take UVA.
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I picked Loyola. They're b-ball fanatics. We (Creighton) played them every year 'cuz, you know, Catholic Universities.


I'm impressed
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March 16th, 2018 at 7:16:00 AM permalink
I picked Loyola as well. Seemed like a plausible upset.

Babs is in first place after one day with 140 out of a possible 160 points. Congrats, Babs.

If you don't know this, go to your bracket and click on the Wizard of Vegas group. You will see the entrants ranked in order, and can now open anyone's bracket and see what they selected.

P.S. I am a Tennessee fan, so I definitely am rooting against Loyola in the round of 32.
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March 16th, 2018 at 7:20:30 AM permalink
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I will be impressed, real impressed by anybody that picked Loyola



Loyola was only a two point underdog.
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March 16th, 2018 at 7:45:59 AM permalink
I picked L Chicago too but I also picked AZ to win it all. Pac 12, what an embarrassment .
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March 16th, 2018 at 8:07:31 AM permalink
I have played basketball with the Buffalo coaches, and have watched some of the guys practice. I still did not foresee them beating Arizona. The head coach just went from a low 6 figures guy to the next 7 figure guy from a major conference looking for a 'hot' coach.
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March 16th, 2018 at 9:27:46 AM permalink
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I have played basketball with the Buffalo coaches, and have watched some of the guys practice. I still did not foresee them beating Arizona. The head coach just went from a low 6 figures guy to the next 7 figure guy from a major conference looking for a 'hot' coach.



I hope it is not Pitt, unless he is really that good this wasnt a 1 hit wonder.
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March 16th, 2018 at 10:54:20 AM permalink
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I picked L Chicago too but I also picked AZ to win it all. Pac 12, what an embarrassment .



Yep, Arizona loses by 26 in the first round to a 13 seed, and UCLA and ASU get eliminated in the play-in games. I think that's it. Were they any other PAC-12 teams in the tourney? A truly pathetic showing. What in heck happened to PAC-12 basketball?

I am also wondering if the ACC is slightly overrated. Miami was upset by Loyola, and NC State and Virginia Tech both lost games that were essentially a toss-up. #2 Duke beat a #15 seed, but that doesn't mean much. I guess we'll know more after today and by next weekend.
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March 16th, 2018 at 11:08:01 AM permalink
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Yep, Arizona loses by 26 in the first round to a 13 seed, and UCLA and ASU get eliminated in the play-in games. I think that's it. Were they any other PAC-12 teams in the tourney? A truly pathetic showing. What in heck happened to PAC-12 basketball?


If the players are graduating at a higher rate then the other conferences, I would consider the season a success rather then pathetic.
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March 16th, 2018 at 11:49:40 AM permalink
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If the players are graduating at a higher rate then the other conferences, I would consider the season a success rather then pathetic.



I researched this, and it is surprisingly difficult to find up to date information, and any specific information for schools or conferences.

I found one article Here listing the top 25 schools (out of the 130 Div 1 football schools) in graduating student athletes. Only 1 PAC-12 school, Stanford (9th best), was in the top 25. The top 5 schools were Northwestern, Duke, Boston College, Miami (Fla) and Rice.

However, 4 PAC12 schools were in the bottom 25 (worst) schools of GSR -graduation rates for student athletes. They were California (4th worst), Washington State (8th worst), Arizona (9th worst) and USC (19th worst).
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March 16th, 2018 at 6:05:15 PM permalink
Ouch.

Creighton forgot to show up.

K-State didn't even play their best guy, and still ran away with it.

Bluejays crapped the nest. 21-9 and bleah. Ah. Well.
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March 16th, 2018 at 6:08:10 PM permalink
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If the players are graduating at a higher rate then the other conferences, I would consider the season a success rather then pathetic.



The last thing I judge a program on is its graduation rate. That might have been important twenty years ago, but not anymore.
The number of D1 hoopsters who went to school to get an education are far and few between.
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March 16th, 2018 at 7:53:39 PM permalink
OMG
UMBC Virginia were tied at the half
UMBC goes on a run, up by 14 with 15:50 left
amazing
Will a 16 beat a 1?
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March 16th, 2018 at 8:35:36 PM permalink
Woof Woof

UnderDOG!

Wow, well done UMBC.
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March 16th, 2018 at 8:45:15 PM permalink
bam !
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March 16th, 2018 at 8:49:05 PM permalink
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If the players are graduating at a higher rate then the other conferences, I would consider the season a success rather then pathetic.


Starting in two years, a share of the basketball TV money will be divided among the conferences based on how many schools can do any one of three things:
(a) Have an average (calculated by taking each sport's number separately and averaging them) one-year APR of 985;
(b) Have an average GSR of 90;
(c) Have a Federal Graduation Rate for athletes be at least 13 points higher than for the student body as a whole.
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March 16th, 2018 at 8:51:54 PM permalink
I picked UVA to win it all. My bracket has turned to molten guano. I cannot win this contest now.
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March 16th, 2018 at 8:51:57 PM permalink
UMBC played great.
Watched the whole game
amazing.
Throughout the game, I kept thinking this cant be happening.
I kept waiting for VA to come back
They totally choked. Choked big time
Get this
6 weeks ago UMBC 39 Albany 83
99.4% of brackets busted including mine but watching that game was worth it
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March 16th, 2018 at 8:55:10 PM permalink
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Get this
6 weeks ago UMBC 39 Albany 83

Didn't know that. Not sure I had ever even heard of UMBC before !
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March 16th, 2018 at 9:08:02 PM permalink
UMBC was my dad's alma matter. I knew I should have bet on them!
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March 16th, 2018 at 9:12:46 PM permalink
This is why you dont bet ncaa basketball. This game was clearly rigged and the players were bought. Never bet on a sport where players are not paid. Virginia was a 20 point favorite and was the 1st time in ncaa history where a 16th seed beat a no.1 seed and they lose by 20? Fishy at best.

Keep in mind this only happens with teams that have no future nba talent. Virginia has no talent on their team that will go to the nba so the briber behind the scenes picked his spots and paid off the players or at least their main players convincing them this will be their only big pay day.
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March 16th, 2018 at 9:40:42 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

This is why you dont bet ncaa basketball. This game was clearly rigged and the players were bought. Never bet on a sport where players are not paid. Virginia was a 20 point favorite and was the 1st time in ncaa history where a 16th seed beat a no.1 seed and they lose by 20? Fishy at best.

Keep in mind this only happens with teams that have no future nba talent. Virginia has no talent on their team that will go to the nba so the briber behind the scenes picked his spots and paid off the players or at least their main players convincing them this will be their only big pay day.



Totally clueless post

If they were going to fix a game with a 22 point spread , it would be fixed such that Virginia wins but does not cover the spread and those behind the fix simply place a normal non attention getting spread bet on UMBC +22. There’s no reason at all to actually have the favorite lose the game as part of any fix. Who does that benefit ? A large moneyline ticket at +2200 odds on a dog is something you’d never see a game fixing entity want any part of. Too unusual , too much attention potential.
Virginia could very easily have shaved points and won by 18 if the game had been fixed.
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March 17th, 2018 at 12:45:58 AM permalink
Well I assume buffets billion is safe again.i guess I will put my 40 aside waiting to send it to the winner. My only shot is my coin flip bracket if Kentucky wins it all. Although with uva out their road maybe got a little easier.
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March 17th, 2018 at 12:48:02 AM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

This is why you dont bet ncaa basketball. This game was clearly rigged and the players were bought. Never bet on a sport where players are not paid. Virginia was a 20 point favorite and was the 1st time in ncaa history where a 16th seed beat a no.1 seed and they lose by 20? Fishy at best.

Keep in mind this only happens with teams that have no future nba talent. Virginia has no talent on their team that will go to the nba so the briber behind the scenes picked his spots and paid off the players or at least their main players convincing them this will be their only big pay day.



Zk I am really sorry for you. This is a tough way to live life. Maybe it's rigged and maybe it's not. Either way worrying, complaining, and even thinking about it is putting unneeded stress on your heart.
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March 17th, 2018 at 2:19:08 AM permalink
Just googled this stuff. Its University of Maryland in Baltimore County.

I had mentally gone thru: University of Missouri, University of Manitoba and a few other possibilities.
Never heard much of University of Maryland much less one in Baltimore County.
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March 17th, 2018 at 5:19:59 AM permalink
Wow. It appears I am tied with the most PPR. Which means I will fall apart on Sat and Sun.
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March 17th, 2018 at 8:11:16 AM permalink
Good news: I had the best bracket in the first round of this contest, went 26-6 and have 260 points out of a possible 320. Some very insightful and skillful picking.

Bad news: Because I picked the Virginia Cavaliers to win the whole thing, I have one of the lowest PPRs in the contest and no realistic way to win.
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March 17th, 2018 at 8:27:23 AM permalink
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Good news: I had the best bracket in the first round of this contest, went 26-6 and have 260 points out of a possible 320. Some very insightful and skillful picking.
Bad news: Because I picked the Virginia Cavaliers to win the whole thing, I have one of the lowest PPRs in the contest and no realistic way to win.


Good news: I had the most entertaining bracket in the first round of this contest.
Bad news: Because I had no idea what I was doing I never had any realistic way to win.

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March 17th, 2018 at 8:32:31 AM permalink
WhaleGeorge should have played, instead. ;)

(Kind of an inside joke unless you’ve been here awhile and read a lot)
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March 18th, 2018 at 4:54:00 AM permalink
As of Sunday morning......

1
beachbumbabs,beachbumbabs
240 140 0 0 0 0 UNC 1240 380 98.6

2
gordonm888_WOV,Knox Wizard
260 100 0 0 0 0 UVA 780 360 92.1

3
Technical Fowl,IndyJeffrey
210 140 0 0 0 0 UNC 1420 350 85.6

4*
beachbumbabs 2,beachbumbabs
200 140 0 0 0 0 UNC 1280 340 73.6

4*
Keeneone,Keeneone
240 100 0 0 0 0 Kansas 1260 340 73.6

6*
miplet,ESPNFAN93776774
250 80 0 0 0 0 Gonzaga 1320 330 63.3

6*
terapined,ESPNFAN89986892
230 100 0 0 0 0 UVA 780 330 63.3

6*
Vegasrider,espn92136936
230 100 0 0 0 0 Arizona 640 330 63.3

9*
Keeneone - #2,Keeneone
220 100 0 0 0 0 Cincinnati 1380 320 52.2

9*
SM777,tHaKIDD53
200 120 0 0 0 0 Villanova 1140 320 52.2

11*
johnnyqqq1,johnnyqqq
210 100 0 0 0 0 Xavier 1380 310 41.9

11*
MidwestAP,MidwestAP
210 100 0 0 0 0 Villanova 1240 310 41.9

13
GWAE,GWAE
210 80 0 0 0 0 UVA 760 290 24.8

14
GWAE 2,GWAE
200 80 0 0 0 0 Kentucky 1000 280
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March 18th, 2018 at 5:03:00 AM permalink
Hahaha I am so good at this
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March 18th, 2018 at 8:50:41 AM permalink
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Hahaha I am so good at this



You made Fleastiffs day for sure. So there's that. Lol!

Wait. FS isn't listed. Hmmmm. Guess I'll have to look.
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March 18th, 2018 at 11:43:47 AM permalink
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Wait. FS isn't listed. Hmmmm. Guess I'll have to look.

I don't think my clipboard could cut/paste that far down on the screen. Ha !
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March 18th, 2018 at 12:12:57 PM permalink
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I don't think my clipboard could cut/paste that far down on the screen. Ha !

Fleastiff's tears at being at the bottom of the list and out of the running are atleast rinsing the green beer off his white shirt as he sobers up from a Guinness induced stupor.

Fleastiff hereby resolves to learn more about basketball prior to next March.

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March 18th, 2018 at 4:55:15 PM permalink
UNC and Mich St. both lose. This feels like its a bit more chaotic than normal.

Edit: And 2 seed Cincinnati and 4 seed Auburn both exit before their time. How many ways can a bracket be busted?
Last edited by: gordonm888 on Mar 18, 2018
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March 18th, 2018 at 6:27:54 PM permalink
UT oh. I think I won't be on top much longer.

Bahm Bahm Bahm Bahm
Another one bites the dust!
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March 18th, 2018 at 9:02:44 PM permalink
Exciting stuff. Lots of busted brackets. Early potential favorites to win look to be miplet and MidwestAP. But it is certainly not over, lots of basketball to be played.

Quote: GWAE

If I can get a Kentucky champion then my coin flip one might take it.

Even thought this bracket is in last place, Kentucky could still make it a winner. Kentucky looks to have the "easiest" road to the Final 4 atm.
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March 26th, 2018 at 7:23:36 AM permalink
If I've figured it correctly, here is how the brackets play out.

If Michigan wins semi-final and Villanova wins semi-final, then MidwestAP will win the bracket pool (regardless of the outcome of the championship game)
If Michigan wins semi-final and Kansas wins semi-final and Kansas wins championship, then Keenone will win the bracket pool
If Michigan wins semi-final and Kansas wins semi-final and Michigan wins championship, then MidwestAP will win the bracket pool
If Loyola-Chicago wins semi-final and Villanova wins semi-final and Villanova wins championship, then MidwestAP will win the bracket pool
If Loyola-Chicago wins semi-final and Villanova win semi-final and Loyola-Chicago wins the championship, then Keenone#2 will win the bracket pool
If Loyola-Chicago wins semi-final and Kansas wins semi-final and Kansas wins the championship, then Keenone will win the bracket pool
If Loyola-Chicago wins semi-final and Kansas wins semi-final and Loyola-Chicago wins the championship, then Keenone#2 will win the bracket pool
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March 26th, 2018 at 7:29:12 AM permalink
Quote: MidwestAP

If I've figured it correctly, here is how the brackets play out.

If Michigan wins semi-final and Villanova wins semi-final, then MidwestAP will win the bracket pool (regardless of the outcome of the championship game)
If Michigan wins semi-final and Kansas wins semi-final and Kansas wins championship, then Keenone will win the bracket pool
If Michigan wins semi-final and Kansas wins semi-final and Michigan wins championship, then MidwestAP will win the bracket pool
If Loyola-Chicago wins semi-final and Villanova wins semi-final and Villanova wins championship, then MidwestAP will win the bracket pool
If Loyola-Chicago wins semi-final and Villanova win semi-final and Loyola-Chicago wins the championship, then Keenone#2 will win the bracket pool
If Loyola-Chicago wins semi-final and Kansas wins semi-final and Kansas wins the championship, then Keenone will win the bracket pool
If Loyola-Chicago wins semi-final and Kansas wins semi-final and Loyola-Chicago wins the championship, then Keenone#2 will win the bracket pool



I have not tried to game it all out (lazy) but it appears you are correct. And I would think whichever of you doesn't win will take 2nd. So I am in 3rd with no hope, although i may be lower with Kansas beating Duke in ot. I gave up in disgust when they lost. Sigh and congrats to the both of you.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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