Trump's Second and Third year in office
Quote: TigerWuUhhhh... what? There are ABSOLUTELY people that are THAT f'n stupid. Are you kidding me?? Haha... I can't believe you actually think people AREN'T influenced by all the stupid crap they read online, and would vote purely based on B.S. they see on Facebook.
Quote: billryanBut he gave you a tax cut. How much of an ingrate can you be? Be a good little doggie and maybe he'll scratch your ears for you.
I know, I know, you’re still pissed he only gave it to those of us who actually PAY taxes.
Those of who SUPPORT your subsidized Health Care.
Quote: Mission146What that many of them are sexists, racists and bigots?
Is your contention that none of them are?
My source is the polls for separation of parents and children at the border, only white Evangelical Christians were in favor.
Resigned. Why should I have been impeached as a Moderator? What comes out of my mouth ain’t got **** on some of the garbage Trump says. I suppose one positive about having Trump as a President is it should at least theoretically lower the standards that others are held to.
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Following that logic, or lack of same, all those members of Congress that passed that law, and the President who signed it, are all sexists, racists, and bigots. Isn't there a philosophy board somewhere calling your name. What an assumption! You agree with a law being enforced, and you MUST be a sexist, racist, and bigot. You forgot NAZI .
Quote: dogqck
Following that logic, or lack of same, all those members of Congress that passed that law, and the President who signed it, are all sexists, racists, and bigots. Isn't there a philosophy board somewhere calling your name. What an assumption! You agree with a law being enforced, and you MUST be a sexist, racist, and bigot. You forgot NAZI .
Is the President not a sexist racist bigot? Did he reform when I wasn’t looking?
I’d post a longer reply, but I figure I’ve triggered you enough for one day.
Quote: MaxPen
Again, not one of these complainers here have been negativity affected by Trump.
Unless of course:
They had their food stamps cut.
They didn’t want more money on their pay checks.
They have relatives with small children who illegally snuck across the border and were separated after being caught.
They are upset Trump increased the deficit last year instead of cutting it.
They are concerned we are upsetting allies who have been f’n us on trade for years.
They are gay and are upset he outlawed homosexuality. Wait, never mind.
Men who have never said a negative thing about women in their life.
Living in Henderson on the dole regretting life choices.
Sure I missed a few, but most get the gist of it.
I think the problem is you’re confusing the word, “Many,” with, “All.”
Many doesn’t even have to mean, “Most,” or a, “Majority,” of (though it can) much less, “All.”
Many just means a large, though indefinite, number. It’s essentially a qualifier used to define a non-specifically known quantity.
I’d suggest you hit up the nearest dictionary. I’m afraid I’m out of time to explain how words I learned as a three year old work.
Quote: BozAgain, not one of these complainers here have been negativity affected by Trump
Having a president who is a Russian plant negatively affects every American.
Quote: ams288Having a president who is a Russian plant negatively affects every American.
And there is no way someone as intelligent and successful as you in life believes that.
Quote: BozQuote: MaxPen
Again, not one of these complainers here have been negativity affected by Trump.
Unless of course:
They had their food stamps cut.
They didn’t want more money on their pay checks.
They have relatives with small children who illegally snuck across the border and were separated after being caught.
They are upset Trump increased the deficit last year instead of cutting it.
They are concerned we are upsetting allies who have been f’n us on trade for years.
They are gay and are upset he outlawed homosexuality. Wait, never mind.
Men who have never said a negative thing about women in their life.
Living in Henderson on the dole regretting life choices.
Sure I missed a few, but most get the gist of it.
I've said this before, Boz, but your "what has changed for you personally" argument (actually not just yours on here) doesn't hold water with me.
America is an idea, more than anything. We are blessed with benign and working partnerships to the north and south, and oceans between us and everyone else. We have built this country with generations of people who wanted more out of their lives and were willing to risk everything, in most cases, to make that happen.
So we have been isolated from most of the continuous wars that devastated other countries, and able to grow strong and prosperous. We became world leaders by acclimation after WW2, not just for our military power, but for our democratic ideals, our high standards, and our work ethic.
Trump has NEVER believed in America. Not in working hard for the dream, being paid an honest wage, one man, one vote, fighting for his country, NONE of it. He started rich, lied to his investors, cheated his workers, duped his customers, screwed his creditors, and probably laundered money for the Russian mob when the Western business world finally cut him off. And today, on top of dozens of transgressions during this interminable presidency, he took Russia's side against US intelligence proof, his justice department, and his own closest advisors about an act of war.
His entire candidacy and presidency is built on sowing and feeding hate and discontent. People looking to blame others for their lot in life, resentful that they are in a dead-end job, or somehow fell short of the Dream, Trump's their man.
But that's not the American way. We want our leaders to be honest and decent men. Honest Abe. "Father, I cannot tell a lie." "We hold these truths to be self-evident....(W)e pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor."
By that standard, Trump is an abomination. Our children are watching.
Quote: BozAgain, not one of these complainers here have been negativity affected by Trump.
It is interesting to see that most people who are against Trump aren't worse off much at all. But the flip side is that other than a warm feeling over seeing their ideology implemented, the pro-Trump side isn't better off.
A few extra dollars from the lower tax rates is a nice bonus. The overspending / big government we have along with it means we'll be paying for it later. The tax on imports will raise prices on stuff we buy, but I support Trump and Al Gore on this one and love the idea of people buying less because of higher prices. There will be less stuff going into our landfills and oceans because of it. Continuing Obama era policies on most things, deciding not to build a wall and not replacing Obama care are actually pretty meaningless to the direction our lives take.
The one thing that could be considered a negative effect of Trump as president is that the people in my country now have less freedom and our country just looks bad. But Americans stopped caring about those things long ago.
Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: BozQuote: MaxPen
Again, not one of these complainers here have been negativity affected by Trump.
Unless of course:
They had their food stamps cut.
They didn’t want more money on their pay checks.
They have relatives with small children who illegally snuck across the border and were separated after being caught.
They are upset Trump increased the deficit last year instead of cutting it.
They are concerned we are upsetting allies who have been f’n us on trade for years.
They are gay and are upset he outlawed homosexuality. Wait, never mind.
Men who have never said a negative thing about women in their life.
Living in Henderson on the dole regretting life choices.
Sure I missed a few, but most get the gist of it.
I've said this before, Boz, but your "what has changed for you personally" argument (actually not just yours on here) doesn't hold water with me.
America is an idea, more than anything. We are blessed with benign and working partnerships to the north and south, and oceans between us and everyone else. We have built this country with generations of people who wanted more out of their lives and were willing to risk everything, in most cases, to make that happen.
So we have been isolated from most of the continuous wars that devastated other countries, and able to grow strong and prosperous. We became world leaders by acclimation after WW2, not just for our military power, but for our democratic ideals, our high standards, and our work ethic.
Trump has NEVER believed in America. Not in working hard for the dream, being paid an honest wage, one man, one vote, fighting for his country, NONE of it. He started rich, lied to his investors, cheated his workers, duped his customers, screwed his creditors, and probably laundered money for the Russian mob when the Western business world finally cut him off. And today, on top of dozens of transgressions during this interminable presidency, he took Russia's side against US intelligence proof, his justice department, and his own closest advisors about an act of war.
His entire candidacy and presidency is built on sowing and feeding hate and discontent. People looking to blame others for their lot in life, resentful that they are in a dead-end job, or somehow fell short of the Dream, Trump's their man.
But that's not the American way. We want our leaders to be honest and decent men. Honest Abe. "Father, I cannot tell a lie." "We hold these truths to be self-evident....(W)e pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor."
By that standard, Trump is an abomination. Our children are watching.
Babs, I agree with that somewhat. But really has Trump started the decline or is just continuing it from the values some had?
Going back 70 years just in the Presidency.
We had a guy in a wheelchair who had a wife who cheated on him with another woman. Or he watched and enjoyed it.
Ike, possibly the last great honest President
Kennedy, cheated on his wife with a Hollywood ho who he passed off to his brother while hanging out in a mob fronted casino in North Lake Tahoe
LBJ, find me someone who still alive who says he was a good man.
Nixon, appears to be crooked, defended against it too much.
Ford? Was he really President.
Carter. I still remember my 17.5% Mortgage I thanked the banker for bringing down from 19.9
Reagan. Ruined labor unions
Bush. “Read my lips”. F’n Lied to all of us.
Clinton. Modern ruination of Presidential expectations while blowing little Billies on a Blue Dress when the cigar was done.
Bush II. Former admitted drunk who was responsible for framing millions of Muslims that are still suffering for it for 9/11.
Obama: Blowing coke in a limo while getting blown by Larry Sinclair. Dealing drugs as a kid to make ends meet.
Trump. Grabbed them by the pu**y on camera.
Just following the legacy of humans who have found a way to be the most powerful man in the world.
I’m sure someone can take this further but reasonable people understand no one is perfect.
Expecting more is unrealistic.
Quote: TomGIt is interesting to see that most people who are against Trump aren't worse off much at all. But the flip side is that other than a warm feeling over seeing their ideology implemented, the pro-Trump side isn't better off.
A few extra dollars from the lower tax rates is a nice bonus. The overspending / big government we have along with it means we'll be paying for it later. The tax on imports will raise prices on stuff we buy, but I support Trump and Al Gore on this one and love the idea of people buying less because of higher prices. There will be less stuff going into our landfills and oceans because of it. Continuing Obama era policies on most things, deciding not to build a wall and not replacing Obama care are actually pretty meaningless to the direction our lives take.
The one thing that could be considered a negative effect of Trump as president is that the people in my country now have less freedom and our country just looks bad. But Americans stopped caring about those things long ago.
But it’s deeper than that. America has always thrived on the idea of entrepreneurs and their dreams. Obama didn’t believe in it, Lizzy doesn’t, Bernie doesn’t, Nancy is dealing with shit in the streets, Corey and Kamala believe blacks could never reach the Senate.
Trump believes the government shouldn’t stand in the way. Obama said “You didn’t build it” & “I want to spread the wealth around”. Take all the partisan BS out of it and tell me he didn’t say those things.
I will always stand by the fact that unless you are mentally or physically disabled, you can be anything you want to be in today’s America if you are born and raised here. Which is the problem for many on here and who made the wrong choices in life.
Debate that!
have turned his back and dropped
his pants, and Obama would have
buried his whole face in Putin's
anal groove, and the media would be
delirious with tears of joy and
Obama would be a hero.
Quote: EvenBobIf it was Obama today, Putin would
have turned his back and dropped
his pants, and Obama would have
buried his whole face in Putin's
anal groove, and the media would be
delirious with tears of joy and
Obama would be a hero.
Instead it was Trump today. Putin faced
him, dropped his pants, and
Trump went to town.
The only happy ending today
was for the Russians.
This confirms it: Putin is blackmailing
the president.
Kind of scary.
Quote: EvenBobIf it was Obama today, Putin would
have turned his back and dropped
his pants, and Obama would have
buried his whole face in Putin's
anal groove, and the media would be
delirious with tears of joy and
Obama would be a hero.
Sorry Bob but he would have, nor did he ever, met Putin. He was do busy blaming hard working Americans for cheating others.
Since it’s open season on Presidents here, he was too busy getting blown in limos while smoking crack. He was telling Romney Russia wasn’t an issue in the 2012 debates. He was getting voters to believe they would never have to pay for gas, or even their mortgage again.
All the while killing innocent families with drones.
F Obama, his wife and kids. Because it’s whats allowed around here. But say something negative about someone collecting welfare because their life was a failure in Vegas and it’s against the rules because they signed up as a member here.
Only wish I could get our President to be a member here. It would be the end of 3/4 of our membership here.
Has anyone determined if the forum owners here are not Putin fans collecting cash off stupid Americans?
Angry crowd.
Quote: billryanDamn, now Evan Bob is making more sense than POZ.
Kind of scary.
It’s Boz my friend.
I will be in Vegas this weekend. We should put all this petty nonsense behind us and have a Steak Dinner on me. I’ll pay, you pick the place. But if you pick your place, I’ll pay in advance. Do you have a PayPal account? If so I’ll send the $2 in advance.
Quote: BozDebate that!
You did a great job showing that the only benefit Trump can offer is the warm feeling from having your ideology represented in the White House. Except in your case you even miss out on that because Trump’s entire political career is based around preventing certain groups from achieving what they want no matter how willing and able they are to contributing to our country. So in your case I guess the support is simply that he has an R next to his name and nothing else
On the bright side, it couldn't happen to a more deserving pos.
on TV today. Russia has never been
a bigger threat to us than they are
now. The Left and the media act like
they would rather have us at DEFCON 2
after the summit ended, than have Trump
try and make world peace.
Quote: TomGYou did a great job showing that the only benefit Trump can offer is the warm feeling from having your ideology represented in the White House. Except in your case you even miss out on that because Trump’s entire political career is based around preventing certain groups from achieving what they want no matter how willing and able they are to contributing to our country. So in your case I guess the support is simply that he has an R next to his name and nothing else
Really? That’s what you got out of that?
Give me a Democrat that believes in the same stuff and I’m donating and standing in line to contribute.
Prevent certain groups? Are you f’n seriously saying that?
He and I believe anyone can be successful in America, from a lazy (self admitted) person like Mark Zuckerberg, to 1//2 Black Man like Obama.
Come on Tom, step up and grab the Brass Ring, it’s there for you. And everyone else reading this. Unless of course you are busy on the scale outside the Heart Attack Grill stuffing beer cans in your pocket for a free burger.
Quote: BozIt’s Boz my friend.
I will be in Vegas this weekend. We should put all this petty nonsense behind us and have a Steak Dinner on me. I’ll pay, you pick the place. But if you pick your place, I’ll pay in advance. Do you have a PayPal account? If so I’ll send the $2 in advance.
I’ll be in Vegas this weekend for my birthday, but I don’t eat $1 steaks.
Quote: billryanSeems like the opioid crisis has hit the forum.
On the bright side, it couldn't happen to a more deserving pos.
Assuming this is directed at me, if not, sorry for any misdirected bias.
Want me to take a drug test this weekend? More than willing to take it for an amount to be determined against you proving from bank accounts you don’t accept government payments above your well deserved military benefits?
Or fly here tomorrow on my dime if you think I am on any drugs and are willing to back up your slanderous claims.
Put up or shut up Billy. I’m as real as they come.
Quote: ams288I’ll be in Vegas this weekend for my birthday, but I don’t eat $1 steaks.
Dude,
Let’s have a beer on me Sunday. Or on you, lol.
People are people.
Would be good to meet you and understand we aren’t that much different.
Quote: Boz
Prevent certain groups? Are you f’n seriously saying that?
Congratulations, you’re the first person to think Trump takes the same position on immigration as his predecessors
Quote: TomGCongratulations, you’re the first person to think Trump takes the same position on immigration as his predecessors
Because Obama was in favor of illegal Mexicans coming in.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-deported-more-people/
Damn you lost that one.
But like every casino in America, we welcome your play.
Believing career criminal Larry Sinclair is akin to stupid Americans believing what they read on Facebook.
You crack me up Boz.
America had both Bonzo and Bozo.
I feel cheated.
Quote: SteverinosOh the irony...
Believing career criminal Larry Sinclair is akin to stupid Americans believing what they read on Facebook.
You crack me up Boz.
So a Canadian like you can determine which Americans are “stupid”. Any wonder why we have allowed your Country to f us for years on trade.
I’ll take that Great American John Candy in Canadian Bacon having more wisdom than you
on international matters.
Either way you are insulting America voters. Just another reason why Trump won, and will win again. Keep insulting Americans while enjoying your free HC.
Quote: billryanClyde Beatty had Bobo the Clown.
America had both Bonzo and Bozo.
I feel cheated.
Like most of your life, always a victim.
Come on, you have more than that. I have plenty of ammo in this gun but respect for others and common decency keep me in check when it comes to you.
So many quality, good people I respect on here that I debate.
But you Billy, only sadness and regret. But I honestly wish I could know what made you the bitter person you are today.
Hell if Borat can do it, I could make (more) money off your story.
And if it’s as good as I suspect, I’m willing to cut you on it. Obviously you have to be honest, otherwise it’s wouldnt be believable.
No. No it’s not.
Is it a surprise that a trump supporter believes and repeats the lies of a career criminal like Larry Sinclair?
No. No it’s not.
Quote: BozBecause Obama was in favor of illegal Mexicans coming in.
And I'm sure both Obama and Trump want to build a Wall to keep everyone in so that they have the opportunity to become whatever they want to be.
I love it how Trump supporters defend their guy by showing how similar he is to Obama. And then claim it as a win for their side.
Quote: BozKeep insulting Americans while enjoying your free HC.
Well now who has egg on their face? Canadian healthcare isn't free!
Quote: SteverinosIs it a surprise that a trump supporter thinks Alaska is part of Canada?
No. No it’s not.
Is it a surprise that a trump supporter believes and repeats the lies of a career criminal like Larry Sinclair?
No. No it’s not.
Thank you for electing Sarah!
Quote: TomGAnd I'm sure both Obama and Trump want to build a Wall to keep everyone in so that they have the opportunity to become whatever they want to be.
I love it how Trump supporters defend their guy by showing how similar he is to Obama. And then claim it as a win for their side.
No Obama was a POS who blew coke while getting blown in a limo who may or may have not f’d his daughters.
Because some on the left on the have accused Trump of the same thing.
Of course no rational person would believe either did it.
But if it fits the agenda, why not say it?
Quote: rsactuaryWell now who has egg on their face? Canadian healthcare isn't free!
No it is, face it Canada is a land full of hockey playing losers who haven’t a Cup since 1993. And you cheated the Great One out of that one.
Face it, you lost your game to us, elected a pervert to your leader and took Lawrence Phillips as a hero.
Yea, f Canada.
Quote: billryanClyde Beatty had Bobo the Clown.
America had both Bonzo and Bozo.
I feel cheated.
Seems Billy went quiet.
Hopefully someone is posting him on YouTube getting a free Burger on Fremont.
Which I actually respect as the only AP move he has ever made. Of course other than LEGALLY f’n Americans out of their hard earned tax dollars.
Somewhere Monet, who is truly is a POS is smiling.
Quote: SteverinosYou sound anything but rational. Maybe you have TDS?
If by TDS you mean the people who made the right decisions in life to take Overtime when it was offered, to take the Tax Advantages of IRA’s under Presidents of both parties, to believe in the Entrepreneur spirit of hard working Americans of both parties, Guilty as charged.
Like most of the members on here, I’ll enjoy life to it’s fullest until I die like all of us.
Unfortunately I’ve had to support others with far more tax payments than most only could dream of. But trust me I’ve learned.
America rewards those who play the system. We have members (member?) who have figured it out.
And if you want to say I’m jealous of some, I’ll accept it.
"Today’s press conference in Helsinki was one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president in memory. The damage inflicted by President Trump’s naiveté, egotism, false equivalence, and sympathy for autocrats is difficult to calculate. But it is clear that the summit in Helsinki was a tragic mistake.
“President Trump proved not only unable, but unwilling to stand up to Putin. He and Putin seemed to be speaking from the same script as the president made a conscious choice to defend a tyrant against the fair questions of a free press, and to grant Putin an uncontested platform to spew propaganda and lies to the world.
"It is tempting to describe the press conference as a pathetic rout — as an illustration of the perils of under-preparation and inexperience. But these were not the errant tweets of a novice politician. These were the deliberate choices of a president who seems determined to realize his delusions of a warm relationship with Putin’s regime without any regard for the true nature of his rule, his violent disregard for the sovereignty of his neighbors, his complicity in the slaughter of the Syrian people, his violation of international treaties, and his assault on democratic institutions throughout the world.
Coming close on the heels of President Trump’s bombastic and erratic conduct towards our closest friends and allies in Brussels and Britain, today’s press conference marks a recent low point in the history of the American Presidency. That the president was attended in Helsinki by a team of competent and patriotic advisors makes his blunders and capitulations all the more painful and inexplicable.
“No prior president has ever abased himself more abjectly before a tyrant. Not only did President Trump fail to speak the truth about an adversary; but speaking for America to the world, our president failed to defend all that makes us who we are — a republic of free people dedicated to the cause of liberty at home and abroad. American presidents must be the champions of that cause if it is to succeed. Americans are waiting and hoping for President Trump to embrace that sacred responsibility. One can only hope they are not waiting totally in vain.”
Quote: rxwineIf John McCain is giving Trump a grade, I'd say it's an F.
"Today’s press conference in Helsinki was one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president in memory. The damage inflicted by President Trump’s naiveté, egotism, false equivalence, and sympathy for autocrats is difficult to calculate. But it is clear that the summit in Helsinki was a tragic mistake.
“President Trump proved not only unable, but unwilling to stand up to Putin. He and Putin seemed to be speaking from the same script as the president made a conscious choice to defend a tyrant against the fair questions of a free press, and to grant Putin an uncontested platform to spew propaganda and lies to the world.
"It is tempting to describe the press conference as a pathetic rout — as an illustration of the perils of under-preparation and inexperience. But these were not the errant tweets of a novice politician. These were the deliberate choices of a president who seems determined to realize his delusions of a warm relationship with Putin’s regime without any regard for the true nature of his rule, his violent disregard for the sovereignty of his neighbors, his complicity in the slaughter of the Syrian people, his violation of international treaties, and his assault on democratic institutions throughout the world.
Coming close on the heels of President Trump’s bombastic and erratic conduct towards our closest friends and allies in Brussels and Britain, today’s press conference marks a recent low point in the history of the American Presidency. That the president was attended in Helsinki by a team of competent and patriotic advisors makes his blunders and capitulations all the more painful and inexplicable.
“No prior president has ever abased himself more abjectly before a tyrant. Not only did President Trump fail to speak the truth about an adversary; but speaking for America to the world, our president failed to defend all that makes us who we are — a republic of free people dedicated to the cause of liberty at home and abroad. American presidents must be the champions of that cause if it is to succeed. Americans are waiting and hoping for President Trump to embrace that sacred responsibility. One can only hope they are not waiting totally in vain.”
Obviously his liberal daughter wrote this. While I respect his POW status, it’s obvious it had an effort him. And now he is a liberal tool. Like the old KKK dude the Liberals rolled out from WV, I respect the rules of the Senate.
Either way, we win, hard work and tough decisions pay off and Billys is still looking for a free Burger.
His support for "moderate Islamic rebels" in Syria is sickening.Quote: BozObviously his liberal daughter wrote this. While I respect his POW status, it’s obvious it had an effort him.
I remember him railing against American workers and lauding illegals.Quote:And now he is a liberal tool.
Quote: BozObviously his liberal daughter wrote this.
Yeah, except unfortunately for you, with no context that writing could easily represent a patriot from forgotten years concerned with America's loss of values, except of course profit.
Facts, lying, coddling enemies, shunning allies, etc, all sacrificed.
Quote: rsactuaryWell now who has egg on their face? Canadian healthcare isn't free!
Often mistaken, but never in doubt.
Quote: rxwineIf John McCain is giving Trump a grade, I'd say it's an F.
Of all the people criticizing President Trump, Senator McCain is about the last one worth quoting at this point. He has pretty much had something negative to say about the President at just about every turn. He is entitled to that; it just doesn't move the ball much when he says things that are pretty much expected.
If Senator McCain, who is in a horrible battle for his life, really cared about the people he represents, he would resign and let the Governor appoint someone to do the job of Senator that he can no longer completely perform. He would still be able to issue his statements of opposition to the President and Arizona would have two working Senators.
Quote: beachbumbabs
His entire candidacy and presidency is built on sowing and feeding hate and discontent. People looking to blame others for their lot in life, resentful that they are in a dead-end job, or somehow fell short of the Dream, Trump's their man.
It is funny, what you wrote and attribute to Trump, I see as DEFINING the Democrat party! Just add the phrase "and we want the government to give it all to me because the rich can pay more".....
