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July 5th, 2018 at 8:05:48 PM permalink
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As regards Trump, some people here seem to have found a button and sewed on a vest, Waiting to see Sammy the Bull linked to Trump next.



Im waiting for you to start defending sammy the bull next
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July 5th, 2018 at 8:29:32 PM permalink
Sammy plead guilty to 14 murders, got 5 years, 4 of which he served in hotels waiting to testify. That's how bad the Feds wanted John Gotti. Similar fate when Feds had a hot nut for Billy Walters. And Phil just had to give the 1.2 Million $ back, no need to testify or show up.
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July 5th, 2018 at 8:55:42 PM permalink
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(He’s straight tho. I’ve got good gaydar).

Now who's making people laugh?

I think your gaydar is off a bit.



even if it's not true, this picture says a thousand gay words.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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July 6th, 2018 at 3:07:41 AM permalink
3 Trump businesses - the Mar-a-Lago Club, The Trump Golf Club in Westchester County and the Trump Winery in Charlotesville, VA

𝐇𝐀𝐕𝐄 ℂ𝕌ℝℝ𝔼ℕ𝕋𝕃𝕐 𝐀𝐏𝐏𝐋𝐈𝐄𝐃 𝐅𝐎𝐑 𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐑𝐈𝐆𝐇𝐓 𝐓𝐎 𝐀𝐍𝐃 𝐇𝐀𝐕𝐄 𝐇𝐈𝐑𝐄𝐃 𝐅𝐎𝐑𝐄𝐈𝐆𝐍 𝐖𝐎𝐑𝐊𝐄𝐑𝐒


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-mar-a-lago-club-in-florida-seeks-to-hire-40-foreign-workers/2018/07/05/5ef094b8-8099-11e8-bb6b-c1cb691f1402_story.html?utm_term=.f5f8a97ae566
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July 6th, 2018 at 3:34:43 AM permalink
Protesters have been given permission to fly this Baby Trump blimp near Parliament during Donald’s upcoming visit to the UK.



Brilliant. That’ll get under his thin skin.
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July 6th, 2018 at 4:20:43 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

I have said it before

There is a past between most NYers and Donald Trump

He been the same jerk his whole life

Most NYers call the bs

Righties seem to think its cool

Thats why NY will happily stay Dem



You are half right. NY will happily stay Dem for sure. But NOT because Trump is a BS artist. Because NY is full of multiple millions who are living on the dole, and the Medicaid/Welfare class are all Dems. The low handout areas of NYS are still Republican. But by population they are only a third of the state.
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July 6th, 2018 at 4:33:33 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Because NY is full of multiple millions who are living on the dole, and the Medicaid/Welfare class




Gee Whiz. If what you are saying so defines NYC; I wonder how NYC became to be regarded as:


𝐎𝐍𝐄 𝐎𝐅 𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐆𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐓𝐄𝐒𝐓 𝐂𝐈𝐓𝐈𝐄𝐒 𝐈𝐍 𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐄𝐍𝐓𝐈𝐑𝐄 𝐖𝐎𝐑𝐋𝐃


𝑨𝑵𝑫 𝑴𝑨𝑵𝑨𝑮𝑬𝑫 𝑻𝑶 𝑫𝑹𝑨𝑾 62.8 𝑴𝑰𝑳𝑳𝑰𝑶𝑵 𝑻𝑶𝑼𝑹𝑰𝑺𝑻𝑺 𝑰𝑵 2017


you would think that NYC would be bankrupt and destitute from your description of it


https://ny.curbed.com/2017/11/20/16678672/new-york-tourism-2017-nyc-and-company
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July 6th, 2018 at 4:40:36 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

Gee Whiz. If what you are saying so defines NYC; I wonder how NYC became to be regarded as:


𝐎𝐍𝐄 𝐎𝐅 𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐆𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐓𝐄𝐒𝐓 𝐂𝐈𝐓𝐈𝐄𝐒 𝐈𝐍 𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐄𝐍𝐓𝐈𝐑𝐄 𝐖𝐎𝐑𝐋𝐃


𝑨𝑵𝑫 𝑴𝑨𝑵𝑨𝑮𝑬𝑫 𝑻𝑶 𝑫𝑹𝑨𝑾 62.8 𝑴𝑰𝑳𝑳𝑰𝑶𝑵 𝑻𝑶𝑼𝑹𝑰𝑺𝑻𝑺 𝑰𝑵 2017


you would think that NYC would be bankrupt and destitute from your description of it


https://ny.curbed.com/2017/11/20/16678672/new-york-tourism-2017-nyc-and-company



I love NYC. I am a New Yorker. Born and raised in Queens, NY. NY is not bankrupt or destitute because of the large tax haul from the multiple businesses that call it home, and the city income tax which is lopped on top of Federal and State taxes for the half of the population which is subsidizing the other half. Doesn't change the fact that there are multiple millions of NYC residents on the dole.

Edit... I found that NY State has over SIX MILLION people on Medicaid/CHIP. (CHIP is Medicaid for children). That's an astonishing number! I couldn't find the distribution between NYC and the rest of the state. But NYS is clearly a welfare state, with the 'haves' supporting a giant class of 'have nots'. You really think that NY is a Dem state because of Trump's inanities?
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July 6th, 2018 at 4:41:24 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

You are half right. NY will happily stay Dem for sure. But NOT because Trump is a BS artist. Because NY is full of multiple millions who are living on the dole, and the Medicaid/Welfare class are all Dems. The low handout areas of NYS are still Republican. But by population they are only a third of the state.



What is your explanation for a state like Mississippi? Full of people who are "living off the dole," and yet it's as red a state as can be.
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July 6th, 2018 at 4:45:02 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

NY is not bankrupt or destitute because of the large tax haul from the multiple businesses




they have a large tax haul from multiple businesses because these business are tremendously successful and have tremendous earinings partly from the prestige of operating a business in NYC.

if you are saying that the tax haul from these business is unfair to them, that would be a ridiculous statement; as business growth and development in NYC is staggering and the vast majority of these successful businesses and developers have absolutely no intention of moving out.
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July 6th, 2018 at 4:51:10 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

they have a large tax haul from multiple businesses because these business are tremendously successful and have tremendous earinings partly from the prestige of operating a business in NYC.

if you are saying that the tax haul from these business is unfair to them, that would be a ridiculous statement; as business growth and development in NYC is staggering and the vast majority of these successful businesses and developers have absolutely no intention of moving out.



Not saying it is unfair, just that it is a fact that they subsidize millions of New Yorkers who do not contribute and do take services. And my point is not about how much who should be paying, just that with the GIGANTIC Welfare class NY will always be a Dem state. City slums are ALWAYS filled with Democrats. Rural slums (Mississippi was mentioned) can be filled with Repubs.
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July 6th, 2018 at 5:44:29 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Protesters have been given permission to fly this Baby Trump blimp near Parliament during Donald’s upcoming visit to the UK.



Brilliant. That’ll get under his thin skin.



F the U.K., start paying your “Fair Share” to NATO.
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July 6th, 2018 at 5:52:52 AM permalink
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Quote: ams288

Protesters have been given permission to fly this Baby Trump blimp near Parliament during Donald’s upcoming visit to the UK.



Brilliant. That’ll get under his thin skin.



F the U.K., start paying your “Fair Share” to NATO.



Apparently it got under your skin as well.
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July 6th, 2018 at 6:42:56 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

Quote: ams288

Protesters have been given permission to fly this Baby Trump blimp near Parliament during Donald’s upcoming visit to the UK.



Brilliant. That’ll get under his thin skin.



F the U.K., start paying your “Fair Share” to NATO.


???????
Please cite a reference
I believe you are pushing fake news
Yea some countries don't pay their fair share, the UK is not one of them

http://www.businessinsider.com/nato-share-breakdown-country-2017-2
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July 6th, 2018 at 8:17:13 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Quote: Boz

Quote: ams288

Protesters have been given permission to fly this Baby Trump blimp near Parliament during Donald’s upcoming visit to the UK.



Brilliant. That’ll get under his thin skin.



F the U.K., start paying your “Fair Share” to NATO.



Apparently it got under your skin as well.



No I just don’t like the U.K. What the hell is it anyways?

The only thing they have ever done for us is ensure I don’t pay sales tax on Tea.

Otherwise they are a drain on hardworking Americans.
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July 6th, 2018 at 8:20:24 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

Quote: Boz

Quote: ams288

Protesters have been given permission to fly this Baby Trump blimp near Parliament during Donald’s upcoming visit to the UK.



Brilliant. That’ll get under his thin skin.



F the U.K., start paying your “Fair Share” to NATO.


???????
Please cite a reference
I believe you are pushing fake news
Yea some countries don't pay their fair share, the UK is not one of them

http://www.businessinsider.com/nato-share-breakdown-country-2017-2



Good link, but still not paying as high a percentage as us. How is that “fair”?

They have less than 2 Trillion in debt, they can afford to pay more, simple as that.

Isn’t that what liberals say all the time?
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July 6th, 2018 at 8:32:54 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

F the U.K., start paying your “Fair Share” to NATO.
Good link, but still not paying as high a percentage as us. How is that “fair”?

They have less than 2 Trillion in debt, they can afford to pay more, simple as that.

Isn’t that what liberals say all the time?

Would you like us to pay the same $ amount per capita, or maybe the same proportion of our Gross National Product, or maybe we should pay by the square mile area of our Nation... Or how about we pay in proportion to our national debt, or the proportion of how much US debt we hold, or maybe proportional to our average body weight or longevity....
Actually, rhetorical. You don't like the UK. I don't like your attitude. Life's cruel then you die.
Last edited by: OnceDear on Jul 6, 2018
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July 6th, 2018 at 8:40:54 AM permalink
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I have plenty to say on this topic but I will keep to myself for the time being... But more importantly I'd like to know.. What's with the repulsive gut photo? Is that a testament to the number of hours you play online sitting on your couch?
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July 6th, 2018 at 8:43:57 AM permalink
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I have plenty to say on this topic but I will keep to myself for the time being... But more importantly I'd like to know.. What's with the repulsive gut photo? Is that a testament to the number of hours you play online sitting on your couch?



LOL... I was just kidding mate.. I miss all the good banter on this form. How have you been hitting them?
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July 6th, 2018 at 8:43:59 AM permalink
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I But more importantly I'd like to know.. What's with the repulsive gut photo? Is that a testament to the number of hours you play online sitting on your couch?

It was before my diet. When I looked like Neal the sofa sloth. Would you like me to change it? OK.
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July 6th, 2018 at 8:45:28 AM permalink
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It was before my diet. When I looked like Neal the sofa sloth. Would you like me to change it? OK.



Lol... a photo of a hot chick in a bikini would suffice. Oh I have that on top of me now live...nevermind.
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July 6th, 2018 at 10:02:56 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I love NYC. I am a New Yorker. Born and raised in Queens, NY. NY is not bankrupt or destitute because of the large tax haul from the multiple businesses that call it home, and the city income tax which is lopped on top of Federal and State taxes for the half of the population which is subsidizing the other half. Doesn't change the fact that there are multiple millions of NYC residents on the dole.

Edit... I found that NY State has over SIX MILLION people on Medicaid/CHIP. (CHIP is Medicaid for children). That's an astonishing number! I couldn't find the distribution between NYC and the rest of the state. But NYS is clearly a welfare state, with the 'haves' supporting a giant class of 'have nots'. You really think that NY is a Dem state because of Trump's inanities?



NY is a high price city resulting in many people WORKING FULL TIME and still unable to cover costs

Hence many qualify for medicaid and food stamps

I know someone making $20 full time at the library. She takes home about $1100 every 2 weeks after taxes. Her rent is $2500 a month for a 2 bedroom apt (she has small children) and thats in a poorer section of brooklyn

Before you suggest she gets a smaller apt child protective services and landlords are very strict in ny. You cant have children and adults all squished into one room

She gets medicaid rental assistance and food stamps

The dole is not necessarily for lazy people when it comes to NYC

EDIT: suggesting poor people dont have children is not the answer either
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July 6th, 2018 at 10:19:00 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

Quote: terapined

Quote: Boz

Quote: ams288

Protesters have been given permission to fly this Baby Trump blimp near Parliament during Donald’s upcoming visit to the UK.



Brilliant. That’ll get under his thin skin.



F the U.K., start paying your “Fair Share” to NATO.


???????
Please cite a reference
I believe you are pushing fake news
Yea some countries don't pay their fair share, the UK is not one of them

http://www.businessinsider.com/nato-share-breakdown-country-2017-2



Good link, but still not paying as high a percentage as us. How is that “fair”?

They have less than 2 Trillion in debt, they can afford to pay more, simple as that.

Isn’t that what liberals say all the time?



hmm
Why does NATO still exist
Cold war is over
Germany reunited.
I don't trust Russia in cyberspace but its not going to invade western Europe.
I think NATO Is a big waste of money
Do we really need US soldiers stationed in Europe.
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July 6th, 2018 at 10:48:03 AM permalink
EDIT: BLAH!

Trump should release his tax returns. It would really put a conclusion to a lot of the things conservatives are demanding closure for. If I were them, I'd be demanding it.
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July 6th, 2018 at 10:52:39 AM permalink
Quote: terapined


hmm
Why does NATO still exist
Cold war is over
Germany reunited.
I don't trust Russia in cyberspace but its not going to invade western Europe.
I think NATO Is a big waste of money
Do we really need US soldiers stationed in Europe.


I dunno about the cold war being over. Putin would love to seize Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and soon enough nibble away at the oil rich countries. He just loves to keep the West on it's back foot, with intractible squabbles like the Ukraine from stopping the spread of 'Western Values' towards his borders. trumpy already gave him Syria and Crimea ( with the world's help ). By showing weakness and fighting his own allies, trumpy is surrendering the world to Putin and Xi and others.

Nato is a big waste of money in as much all military spending is, but while China and Russia and multiple other countries decide to stay tooled up, the West has to be tooled up too, and that is more than just equipment. It's manpower and attitude.

US soldiers stationed in the US would lose local knowledge of what may one day be the battlefield. They wouldn't be much use stationed back home, either, would they? So, what's to do, bring them home and put them out of work?
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July 6th, 2018 at 11:14:21 AM permalink
Let me get this straight. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
is 28, and her life experience after college is
she worked as a bartender/waitress. She won
because she was running against an incumbent
that had a monstrous lead in the polls, and less
than 20% of the voters in her district turned out.
This woman is now the future face of the Dem
party.

Okey Dokey.. lol
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July 6th, 2018 at 11:22:56 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Let me get this straight. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
is 28, and her life experience after college is
she worked as a bartender/waitress. She won
because she was running against an incumbent
that had a monstrous lead in the polls, and less
than 20% of the voters in her district turned out.
This woman is now the future face of the Dem
party.

Okey Dokey.. lol


I vote Dem
Alexandria who ?????????
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July 6th, 2018 at 11:24:42 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Let me get this straight. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
is 28, and her life experience after college is
she worked as a bartender/waitress. She won
because she was running against an incumbent
that had a monstrous lead in the polls, and less
than 20% of the voters in her district turned out.
This woman is now the future face of the Dem
party.

Okey Dokey.. lol



I saw some righties on Twitter hoping she runs for President in 2020 to "ensure Trump gets a 2nd term."

She is Constitutionally unable to run for President in 2020 as she won't be 35.
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July 6th, 2018 at 11:35:11 AM permalink
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I saw some righties on Twitter hoping she runs for President in 2020 to "ensure Trump gets a 2nd term."



With her age and political experience, and
that she got elected because nobody
opposing her turned out to vote, I'd say
she's a shoe in for a long and glorious
career in politics. Her and Hoggy boy
should team up, what a pair of geniuses
they are..

Guffaw...
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July 6th, 2018 at 12:25:41 PM permalink
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Before you suggest she gets a smaller apt child protective services and landlords are very strict in ny. You cant have children and adults all squished into one room



Because that NEVER happens in NY.


http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/features/1869/

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July 6th, 2018 at 12:38:55 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

I saw some righties on Twitter hoping she runs for President in 2020 to "ensure Trump gets a 2nd term.



I actually knew a US congressman years
ago. He quit after one term and became
a doctor. That's how I knew him.

He said being a new congressman is a
joke. You know nobody, have no idea
how things are done, everything is
about who you know and the contacts
you've got. In the 2 years he was there
all he did was bang his head on the wall
every day. The rest of congress shuns
you, and it won't be any different for
this Latino chick. The whole place is
an elite club, and getting reelected
again and again is how you get into
the club.
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July 6th, 2018 at 2:00:27 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

Quote: Boz

Quote: terapined

Quote: Boz

Quote: ams288

Protesters have been given permission to fly this Baby Trump blimp near Parliament during Donald’s upcoming visit to the UK.



Brilliant. That’ll get under his thin skin.



F the U.K., start paying your “Fair Share” to NATO.


???????
Please cite a reference
I believe you are pushing fake news
Yea some countries don't pay their fair share, the UK is not one of them

http://www.businessinsider.com/nato-share-breakdown-country-2017-2



Good link, but still not paying as high a percentage as us. How is that “fair”?

They have less than 2 Trillion in debt, they can afford to pay more, simple as that.

Isn’t that what liberals say all the time?



hmm
Why does NATO still exist
Cold war is over
Germany reunited.
I don't trust Russia in cyberspace but its not going to invade western Europe.
I think NATO Is a big waste of money
Do we really need US soldiers stationed in Europe.



We really need US soldiers stationed in Europe.

What part of Russia took over Crimea less than 4 years ago and made war with Ukraine is hard to believe? Airliners getting shot down over European airspace could easily be American. Englishmen being poisoned by Russians. All kinds of aggression among the Balkan states. And American financial interests, alliances, and huge European corporations with American divisions representing millions of American jobs.

Nestlé is Swiss.Budweiser was sold to a European country.
All the European car divisions have American plants.
All American carmakers have huge European sales and divisions.
Siemens, Bayer, Merck, Serco, a hundred others are intertwined here. This site (below) lists them by division.

http://www.jobline.net/euusa1.htm

Logistically, Europe is entirely too physically close by country to be comfortable with their boundaries being respected without protection . NATO is like-minded countries against aggression, communism, and for mutual benefit as trading partners and defending their people. Those include millions of Americans over there working.

We can't live in isolation. Too much of our economic growth depends on international companies and trade. NATO is part of the price for dominating the world economy.

Trying to keep my reply short. So I'll stop there, but lots more could be said.
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July 6th, 2018 at 2:24:57 PM permalink
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What part of Russia took over Crimea less than 4 years ago and made war with Ukraine is hard to believe?

Crimea voted to join Russia.
Last edited by: petroglyph on Jul 6, 2018
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July 6th, 2018 at 3:24:11 PM permalink
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The rest of congress shuns
you, and it won't be any different for
this Latino chick..



Also, you have to be 35 to run for
president, how is she going to
manage that in the next 2 years.
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July 6th, 2018 at 3:27:13 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Also, you have to be 35 to run for
president, how is she going to
manage that in the next 2 years.



Can you choose just one of the voices and stick with it.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
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July 6th, 2018 at 4:54:00 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Also, you have to be 35 to run for
president, how is she going to
manage that in the next 2 years.


Obama got a fake birth certificate saying he was born in Hawaii. I bet Cortez could get a fake cooked up saying she was born a few years earlier.

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July 6th, 2018 at 5:18:52 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Obama got a fake birth certificate saying he was born in Hawaii. I bet Cortez could get a fake cooked up saying she was born a few years earlier.



Better do something if she's going
to beat Trump. She's not even old
enough to be a senator. lol
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July 6th, 2018 at 6:33:34 PM permalink
Babs, was at an event tonight where the GOP of xxxxx County in Florida was set up. Thought of you and picked up multiple Scott for Senate stickers in different colors and even in Spanish. Need any? 😀

Anyways my question for you was when discussing the race they seemed more concerned with the Governor race and even local Senate races with candidates wanting to discuss local issues with me. Obviously I’m not a voting resident here, but I found it interesting on a national level that they were more concerned about the Governor race than the Senate. Is there pressing issues that will affect average Floridians with a liberal governor? Taxes are low, supported by tourists so why would anyone mess it up? And yes, I’m too lazy to do the research on details.

So my question is for Babs and anyone else, regardless of party.

So who makes a larger difference in your life, national issues or state issues? At my point in life, national issues mean more to me financially and I obviously want a GOP Senate for my future and for my fellow hard working Americans. And of course to help my President move his agenda forward.
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July 6th, 2018 at 7:29:10 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Babs, was at an event tonight where the GOP of xxxxx County in Florida was set up. Thought of you and picked up multiple Scott for Senate stickers in different colors and even in Spanish. Need any? 😀

Anyways my question for you was when discussing the race they seemed more concerned with the Governor race and even local Senate races with candidates wanting to discuss local issues with me. Obviously I’m not a voting resident here, but I found it interesting on a national level that they were more concerned about the Governor race than the Senate. Is there pressing issues that will affect average Floridians with a liberal governor? Taxes are low, supported by tourists so why would anyone mess it up? And yes, I’m too lazy to do the research on details.

So my question is for Babs and anyone else, regardless of party.

So who makes a larger difference in your life, national issues or state issues? At my point in life, national issues mean more to me financially and I obviously want a GOP Senate for my future and for my fellow hard working Americans. And of course to help my President move his agenda forward.



If I had to name the top 5 issues in the state, in no particular order :

The Everglades are dying. That means the entire lower half of the state, from Palm Beach down, will soon be without drinking water. Instead of getting them healthy again they're looking at putting yet another road through them, kI'll in them faster. A different proposal would raise the road that's there so the water can flow freely underneath a huge bridge.

Hurricanes are getting stronger and more in number. The state is decently prepared, but still hasn't recovered from Irma, and here we go again.

Marijuana (medical)passed in 2016. The state legislature in response made it a bigger felony than it already was. In response to that, the MJ lobby is now going to force recreational down their throats.

Gambling is a big 3 way fight. The indians, the corporations, and the no-gamblers keep undercutting each other. Cuba being legalized by Obama, then illegal by Trump, affects a lot of things, but especially gambling futures.

Choice and anti - abortion sides continue to fight. Murders seem to be up. Probably some controversy I'm forgetting.

My life is affected more by federal than state activity, has been for a while. However, many things the stare/county/city do ARE affecting me.

I think the local GOP is trusting national money to push Rick Scott along. The PACS are spending tons on him. So the locals can worry more about the govs race (and state legislature). The GOP has no talent on that side, and the Dems have 2, maybe 3, solid candidates. Legislature is heavily Repub and has been for a while but they're running scared this year. Legislature has been the activists; governor a rubberstamp for their bills.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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July 6th, 2018 at 9:19:43 PM permalink
My scientific data shows that older ladies who have extra money to burn gambling actully love Trump.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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July 6th, 2018 at 10:43:16 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

My scientific data shows that older ladies who have extra money to burn gambling actully love Trump.

Is that what you gab about with the old ladies "afterwords..." (this is how axel gets them to give him their throw away penny tickets).
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July 7th, 2018 at 11:20:27 AM permalink
Trump's lawyers are saying the president
will be happy to answer Mueller's questions
when Mueller presents actual evidence to
them that Trump himself has committed
an actual crime. Legal scholars are saying
this is a brilliant move by the Trump lawyers
because it eliminates any chance of the
questioning just being a typical perjury
trap, which of course it is.

Mueller has no evidence of a crime, he doesn't
even have a clue as to what the crime would be.
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July 7th, 2018 at 11:28:05 AM permalink
Which legal scholars might that be?
This is an admission by team don that their leader can't answer simple questions without be proven a liar.
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July 7th, 2018 at 12:01:43 PM permalink
OPCW issues report: No chemical weapons used in Douma.

https://www.opcw.org/news/article/opcw-issues-fact-finding-mission-reports-on-chemical-weapons-use-allegations-in-douma-syria-in-2018-and-in-al-hamadaniya-and-karm-al-tarrab-in-2016/

" The results show that no organophosphorous nerve agents or their degradation products were detected in the environmental samples or in the plasma samples taken from alleged casualties."

**Firebrand British MP George Galloway responded as follows moments after the OPCW's findings were made public:

Was that, was that the news? What about Douma? The chemical weapons attack? The nerve agent bombs that rained down on Douma that took us to the brink of World War 3?

The OPCW have just reported, well two hours ago... There was no nerve gas attack on Douma. There was no nerve agent deployed on Douma. We were taken to World War 3’s brink on a crock. A crock of vile propaganda. Ring any bells?**
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July 7th, 2018 at 1:00:39 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

OPCW issues report: No chemical weapons used in Douma.



No nerve agents. Not necessarily no chemical weapons.

Quote:

Along with explosive residues, various chlorinated organic chemicals were found in samples from two sites, for which there is full chain of custody. Work by the team to establish the significance of these results is on-going. The FFM team will continue its work to draw final conclusions.



Dropping chlorine based bombs is still a possibility.
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July 7th, 2018 at 1:05:16 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

If I had to name the top 5 issues in the state, in no particular order :

The Everglades are dying. That means the entire lower half of the state, from Palm Beach down, will soon be without drinking water. Instead of getting them healthy again they're looking at putting yet another road through them, kI'll in them faster. A different proposal would raise the road that's there so the water can flow freely underneath a huge bridge.

Hurricanes are getting stronger and more in number. The state is decently prepared, but still hasn't recovered from Irma, and here we go again.

Marijuana (medical)passed in 2016. The state legislature in response made it a bigger felony than it already was. In response to that, the MJ lobby is now going to force recreational down their throats.

Gambling is a big 3 way fight. The indians, the corporations, and the no-gamblers keep undercutting each other. Cuba being legalized by Obama, then illegal by Trump, affects a lot of things, but especially gambling futures.

Choice and anti - abortion sides continue to fight. Murders seem to be up. Probably some controversy I'm forgetting.

My life is affected more by federal than state activity, has been for a while. However, many things the stare/county/city do ARE affecting me.

I think the local GOP is trusting national money to push Rick Scott along. The PACS are spending tons on him. So the locals can worry more about the govs race (and state legislature). The GOP has no talent on that side, and the Dems have 2, maybe 3, solid candidates. Legislature is heavily Repub and has been for a while but they're running scared this year. Legislature has been the activists; governor a rubberstamp for their bills.



Thanks for the responses. The Everglades issues is such a concern to me as well. The tragedy that has happened with the pythons is one of the saddest and most undercovered drama stories out there. It seems hundreds of species are gone from the area including Raccoons and many rare birds. And they are now moving in to the upper keys as well.

I’ve read some good stories and some of the efforts being used including bringing experts over from Asia to help find mating areas and such.

On the Hurricanes, I’m not sure I agree they are getting worse if you look at the last 100 years, but the cost of damage repair and insurance is crazy. Again no easy solution.

Side note, I purchased my first Florida car insurance today as I bought a vehicle for down here now and had to get a separate policy. Even with a perfect record, the rates are over twice as high as I pay in PA. But one day driving down here and it’s obvious why. The amount of wrecks in the greater Tampa area daily is crazy.

State should move forward on Weed and tax it like CO and Nevada do. I for one love Florida having no state income tax. Why not make those who choose to use pay, and maybe even a higher tax rate for Out of Staters. Already being done with hotel and car rental taxes, what choice do tourists have? They will pay to play.

Abortion, should not be an issue but sadly it still is. To be the law of the land is R vs W but yes I know many on the right want to reverse it with no plan to pay for the unwanted children. In my mind you can’t be for less government and continuing growth of the welfare state without understanding someone will have to pay for the additional births. It’s a reality that some don’t want to admit.

Gambling, sorry but F the Indians. Again no reason why Florida shouldn’t expand gambling and use its location and amenities to become a destination. Maybe it’s too late but it’s still a potential money maker that could be used to grow budget dollars.

All of that said, I still feel most Floridians would be better with a GOP led Senate, which Rick Scott is part of.

It will be interesting to watch and I wish I was a resident to vote here. PA is a lost cause and we are stuck with 6 more years of Casey unless something crazy happens in the next 4 months.
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July 7th, 2018 at 1:23:30 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Gambling, sorry but F the Indians. Again no reason why Florida shouldn’t expand gambling and use its location and amenities to become a destination. Maybe it’s too late but it’s still a potential money maker that could be used to grow budget dollars.




I don't begrudge the Seminoles (or any other tribe) for being able to get their gambling privileges, just the ridiculous situation that has been created where the community basically just sends the profit making venture just to the Native Americas, while they run horse dog, and bingo gambling and cut their throats on other gambling income.

On the other hand I would oppose any pro-gambling laws which effectively shut out small players (somewhat like Dollys situation), just letting in the big players. I'm afraid we'll go that route instead on the pretense that that is the only way gambling can be done.
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July 7th, 2018 at 3:12:17 PM permalink
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Which legal scholars might that be?
This is an admission by team don that their leader can't answer simple questions without be proven a liar.



It also means that, now, if he agrees to an interview under those conditions then there is evidence that he committed a crime.

If he agrees that there is evidence that he committed a crime, then he is basically admitting that he committed a crime.

So, his lawyers have basically boxed him in to virtually admitting to a crime by agreeing to be interviewed.
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July 7th, 2018 at 3:27:54 PM permalink
Quote: Dalex64

If he agrees that there is evidence that he committed a crime, then he is basically admitting that he committed a crime.



Another lawyer said that if Trump's lawyers
thought there was even a chance Mueller
had real evidence of a real crime, Trump's
lawyers would have never put this deal out
there. Like lawyers say, never ask a question
you don't already know the answer to. Never
put yourself in a position to be surprised.

They want to question Trump because they
DON'T have evidence, they want to create
a perjury crime with the questioning.
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July 7th, 2018 at 3:52:14 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

I don't begrudge the Seminoles (or any other tribe) for being able to get their gambling privileges, just the ridiculous situation that has been created where the community basically just sends the profit making venture just to the Native Americas, while they run horse dog, and bingo gambling and cut their throats on other gambling income.

On the other hand I would oppose any pro-gambling laws which effectively shut out small players (somewhat like Dollys situation), just letting in the big players. I'm afraid we'll go that route instead on the pretense that that is the only way gambling can be done.



Understood, but my concern is the history that shows the casino profits don’t filter down from the top to the average tribe members.

Yea I know.....
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