Trump's Second and Third year in office
June 26th, 2018 at 8:17:41 AM
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I believe in the supreme court
One cannot cherrypick decisions (although decisions from the 1800's supporting slavery throw a different light)
My next question is what happens if trump now eliminates NK from the travel ban ("I met Kim Jong Un and hes a great guy. The Norh Koreans are our friends now") and if he eliminates Venezuela then we are left with what? A travel ban solely on Muslim majority countries
I dont believe the ban as is should be unchangeable
But I would be suspect of what changes might be attempted by trump
Something tells me this issue is not fully closed
One cannot cherrypick decisions (although decisions from the 1800's supporting slavery throw a different light)
My next question is what happens if trump now eliminates NK from the travel ban ("I met Kim Jong Un and hes a great guy. The Norh Koreans are our friends now") and if he eliminates Venezuela then we are left with what? A travel ban solely on Muslim majority countries
I dont believe the ban as is should be unchangeable
But I would be suspect of what changes might be attempted by trump
Something tells me this issue is not fully closed
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
June 26th, 2018 at 8:26:27 AM
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Quote: darkozI believe in the supreme court
One cannot cherrypick decisions (although decisions from the 1800's supporting slavery throw a different light)
My next question is what happens if trump now eliminates NK from the travel ban ("I met Kim Jong Un and hes a great guy. The Norh Koreans are our friends now") and if he eliminates Venezuela then we are left with what? A travel ban solely on Muslim majority countries
I dont believe the ban as is should be unchangeable
But I would be suspect of what changes might be attempted by trump
Something tells me this issue is not fully closed
The 1st Am. freedom of religion does not apply to citizens of other countries
June 26th, 2018 at 9:05:24 AM
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Quote: aceofspadesThe 1st Am. freedom of religion does not apply to citizens of other countries
Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
Thats the first amendment
Please explain why you think that means the following
Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion for American Citizens only or prohibiting the exercise therof for American Citizens only
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
June 26th, 2018 at 9:18:19 AM
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Quote: TigerWuTrump threatens Harley-Davidson with taxes 'like never before' and predicts its eventual collapse
Jack Daniel's price to jump 10% thanks to Trump's trade war, whiskey maker warns
Trump supporter verbally assaults U.S. citizen simply because he's Latino
MAGA...??
Harley had already planned the move prior to the tariffs
June 26th, 2018 at 9:19:37 AM
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Quote: darkozCongress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
Thats the first amendment
Please explain why you think that means the following
Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion for American Citizens only or prohibiting the exercise therof for American Citizens only
Do Saudi Arabia's laws apply to you here in the USA? If you say no, then you have answered your own question
Also, Congress did not make any law - the President exercised his dominion and control over immigration policy
June 26th, 2018 at 9:23:00 AM
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Quote: aceofspadesDo Saudi Arabia's laws apply to you here in the USA? If you say no, then you have answered your own question
Also, Congress did not make any law - the President exercised his dominion and control over immigration policy
Trumps travel ban was for people entering the USA. Not Saudi Arabia
Your reply is nonsensical
The constitution protects religious liberty of anyone who may be coming to our shores
Ergo it applies to people in other countries as pertaining to their travel here to the USA
Please amend your ridiculous argument
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
June 26th, 2018 at 9:29:07 AM
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Quote: darkozTrumps travel ban was for people entering the USA. Not Saudi Arabia
Your reply is nonsensical
The constitution protects religious liberty of anyone who may be coming to our shores
Ergo it applies to people in other countries as pertaining to their travel here to the USA
Please amend your ridiculous argument
Uhmmm I could've used any sovereign country as an example - it is a question regarding the principle - so, do the UK's laws apply to you here in the USA? Do France's apply to you? Do Brazil's? Nope - because their laws are their laws and, as American citizens, we cannot invoke the laws of another country - just like foreign citizens, ON THEIR SOIL, cannot invoke American laws
Once they arrive here, yes. But, not when they are on their own soil and "may be coming" (that would open your interpretation to everyone in the world outside the USA as everyone in the world outside the USA might potentially be coming to our great country) -- the US Constitution does not govern citizens of a sovereign nation on that sovereign's soil.
June 26th, 2018 at 9:34:44 AM
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Safe to assume 5 Supreme Court Justices will no longer be welcome to eat at certain restaurants?
June 26th, 2018 at 9:49:52 AM
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Quote: aceofspades
Harley had already planned the move prior to the tariffs
Yeah... and now they're planning on moving even more overseas.
Trump tariff fight could hurt the red states that support him.
I really don't care, do u?
June 26th, 2018 at 9:54:16 AM
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Quote: TigerWuYeah... and now they're planning on moving even more overseas.
Trump tariff fight could hurt the red states that support him.
I really don't care, do u?
Nope, I really don't
June 26th, 2018 at 10:04:36 AM
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Quote: aceofspadesUhmmm I could've used any sovereign country as an example - it is a question regarding the principle - so, do the UK's laws apply to you here in the USA? Do France's apply to you? Do Brazil's? Nope - because their laws are their laws and, as American citizens, we cannot invoke the laws of another country - just like foreign citizens, ON THEIR SOIL, cannot invoke American laws
Once they arrive here, yes. But, not when they are on their own soil and "may be coming" (that would open your interpretation to everyone in the world outside the USA as everyone in the world outside the USA might potentially be coming to our great country) -- the US Constitution does not govern citizens of a sovereign nation on that sovereign's soil.
Your arguments are misused
The US president wants to make EOs (bans) on US soil
Those EOs will violate the constitution if they prohibit freedom of religion on US soil PERIOD!!!!!!!!
When Potus says no one from a muslim country can come in and constitutional arguments are made it is NOT the argument that the foreign muslim nations rights are being violated
BUT that the constitution forbids trump from that discrimination on US soil PERIOD
Dont you get it????
This means when people from foreign nations COME TO AMERICA (get it) their religious freedom is also protected while here regardless where they originated from
So your original statement that the constitution does not protect people from other nations is incorrect.
Yes you are right. - not on their soil
No - you are wrong they are not protected on our soil
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
June 26th, 2018 at 10:07:28 AM
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Quote: darkoz
The constitution protects religious liberty of anyone who may be coming to our shores
Ergo it applies to people in other countries as pertaining to their travel here to the USA
The First Amendment and the entire Constitution do not and cannot apply to the entire globe. As anyone who has lived overseas can attest.
June 26th, 2018 at 10:07:50 AM
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I'm not upset about the Supreme Court's muslim ban decision because it will be rendered moot once we replace Donald with a Democrat.
Ding Dong the Witch is Dead
June 26th, 2018 at 10:11:14 AM
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Quote: SanchoPanzaThe First Amendment and the entire Constitution do not and cannot apply to the entire globe. As anyone who has lived overseas can attest.
So you believe if a person comes from saudi arabia to america they have no freedom of religion while on US soil?
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
June 26th, 2018 at 10:16:48 AM
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Quote: darkozSo you believe if a person comes from saudi arabia to america they have no freedom of religion while on US soil?
When you are next in Saudi Arabia feel free to go into town and express your beliefs fully in public....lol
June 26th, 2018 at 10:20:29 AM
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Quote: MaxPenWhen you are next in Saudi Arabia feel free to go into town and express your beliefs fully in public....lol
Republicans must have now left the US
They seem to be fixated on laws in other countries when talking about the US constitution
Maxpen you are invited to the WOV Saudi Arabia Summer Fling
It will be at the Hummus Rock Cafe
See you there
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
June 26th, 2018 at 10:45:34 AM
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The travel ban specifically applies to people trying to GO TO THE UNITED STATES. They are NOT in the U.S. It is difficult to see why this is such a difficult concept to grasp. And you cannot show anywhere that American laws are applicable in any other nation.Quote: darkozSo you believe if a person comes from saudi arabia to america they have no freedom of religion while on US soil?
June 26th, 2018 at 10:47:01 AM
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Keep holding your breath.Quote: ams288I'm not upset about the Supreme Court's muslim ban decision because it will be rendered moot once we replace Donald with a Democrat.
June 26th, 2018 at 10:47:07 AM
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"No way I would go as low as Axel"Quote: terapinedQuote: AxelWolf
I'm pretty surprised at Axel
Its not a Nazi salute. Its a pretty disgusting that Axelwolf is pushing digitally edited lie
sad
I respect all the MSD students including David Hogg (anti-NRA) and Kyle Kashuv (pro-NRA)
I encourage all students including Hogg and Kashuv to get involved in issues they care about regardless if its a lib or conservative.
No way I would go as low as Axel and describe Kyle Kashuv as a Nazi.
Even though I disagree with pro NRA MDS Student Kyle Kashuv, I encourage him to speak on issues he believes in
WOW!! You are saying I am immoral, unfair, inferior, little or some combination of that I guess, perhaps I'm just disgusting. Sounds like a 3 day time out to me. It's got to be worst than calling someone a kid(Right Babs?)
I do appreciate you guys quoting me and reposting the video. No wonder it has 18k++ views and comes up in the top ranking when you google, "looks like David Hogg is saluting" or some combination of that. It's all the people pissed off at the video who are watching it over and over and reposting it. I wasn't looking for any particular video I just posted up whatever came up. I didn't care if his first was closed or open or the video was real or fake since I was not trying to make a serious point/post.
You, ams288 and some other people take this stuff way too seriously. I'm sorry my post upset you guys(not really)
Don't feel embarrassed, sadness or shame for me because I don't let this silly stuff get me all upset and emotional like some people. Especially, when it's clearly made as a joke and in response to the cartoon previously posted. My post was more about emphasizing that he has a face that says punch me.
FYI I'm for SOME more gun control. I just think this Hoggs kid is the worst possible face for the movement.
I do apologize that I posted a video where they edited the video to show his hand open. Here is one where his hand closed.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
June 26th, 2018 at 10:54:45 AM
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Quote: SanchoPanzaThe travel ban specifically applies to people trying to GO TO THE UNITED STATES. They are NOT in the U.S. It is difficult to see why this is such a difficult concept to grasp. And you cannot show anywhere that American laws are applicable in any other nation.
The travel ban is in the US
If the travel ban issued in the US is for religious reasons it violates the constitution
Thats because the travel ban issued is on US soil
So if the ban is based on religious grounds then it is subject to constitutionality
That means such an unconstitutional ban if ruled so would peripherally protect those people in other countries trying to come here
Interestingly the current travel ban has been decided to be constitutional. By your logic people from other countries can legally ignore the ban because american law has no bearing on them
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
June 26th, 2018 at 10:56:13 AM
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David Hogg's "only affinity for reading anything were the Adolf Hitler speeches he kept on his nightstand."
Oh, wait, did I say David Hogg? I meant Donald Trump.
Ooooops.....
Oh, wait, did I say David Hogg? I meant Donald Trump.
Ooooops.....
June 26th, 2018 at 10:56:15 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfI do apologize that I posted a video where they edited the video to show his hand open.
Apology accepted.
Ding Dong the Witch is Dead
June 26th, 2018 at 10:57:39 AM
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Quote: ams288I'm not upset about the Supreme Court's muslim ban decision because it will be rendered moot once we replace Donald with a Democrat.
Keep running on Open Borders, you really are the GOP’s best friend.
And please take your beliefs far beyond this forum. We need you and others like you out there standing beside Maxine, Bernie and Nancy.
You truly are ensuring the future of the Republican Party and for that I Thank you!
June 26th, 2018 at 11:05:16 AM
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Thank you. I'm glad you like this one better.Quote: ams288Apology accepted.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
June 26th, 2018 at 11:24:13 AM
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Quote: BozKeep running on Open Borders, you really are the GOP’s best friend.
And please take your beliefs far beyond this forum. We need you and others like you out there standing beside Maxine, Bernie and Nancy.
You truly are ensuring the future of the Republican Party and for that I Thank you!
Do you think I'm a politician or something...?
Ding Dong the Witch is Dead
June 26th, 2018 at 11:36:46 AM
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Quote: TigerWuUnfiltered voices from Donald Trump's rallies.
NSFW
Lots of very fine people and stable geniuses in these crowds...
Donny brings out the bestest and brightest at his rallies. Reminds me of the people of walmart site.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
June 26th, 2018 at 11:39:48 AM
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Quote: AxelWolf"No way I would go as low as Axel"Quote: terapinedQuote: AxelWolf
I'm pretty surprised at Axel
Its not a Nazi salute. Its a pretty disgusting that Axelwolf is pushing digitally edited lie
sad
I respect all the MSD students including David Hogg (anti-NRA) and Kyle Kashuv (pro-NRA)
I encourage all students including Hogg and Kashuv to get involved in issues they care about regardless if its a lib or conservative.
No way I would go as low as Axel and describe Kyle Kashuv as a Nazi.
Even though I disagree with pro NRA MDS Student Kyle Kashuv, I encourage him to speak on issues he believes in
WOW!! You are saying I am immoral, unfair, inferior, little or some combination of that I guess, perhaps I'm just disgusting. Sounds like a 3 day time out to me. It's got to be worst than calling someone a kid(Right Babs?)
Wow
I never posted that you are "immoral, unfair, inferior, little or some combination of"
I said "No way I would go as low as Axel"
Can you read????????????
I don't post altered videos. Its fake news encouraging hate against a teen.
clarification
I would never ever go as low as Axelwolf posting a fake edited altered video showing a faked Nazi salute to encourage hate against a teenager.
Its low and I stand by my statement
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
June 26th, 2018 at 11:47:25 AM
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Quote: ams288Do you think I'm a politician or something...?
No just today’s Democratic Party. And as I stated, today’s liberal view, like you promote are the greatest motivation for the average hard working American to turn out to vote GOP.
June 26th, 2018 at 11:53:34 AM
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1. There is no travel ban here. It affects just 7 countries. The only "U.S. soil" affected are consulate generals.Quote: darkozThe travel ban is in the US
If the travel ban issued in the US is for religious reasons it violates the constitution
Thats because the travel ban issued is on US soil
So if the ban is based on religious grounds then it is subject to constitutionality
That means such an unconstitutional ban if ruled so would peripherally protect those people in other countries trying to come here
Interestingly the current travel ban has been decided to be constitutional. By your logic people from other countries can legally ignore the ban because american law has no bearing on them
2. The Supreme Court has found that there are no "religious grounds," as made clear just a few posts ago in this very forum.
3. Twisting a position about visa issuance ignores the fact of consular sovereignty, apparently another simple principle that appears to be superdifficult to grasp.
June 26th, 2018 at 12:05:35 PM
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So would be ok for me to say I would never be as dumb and terapined?Quote: terapinedQuote: AxelWolf"No way I would go as low as Axel"Quote: terapinedQuote: AxelWolf
I'm pretty surprised at Axel
Its not a Nazi salute. Its a pretty disgusting that Axelwolf is pushing digitally edited lie
sad
I respect all the MSD students including David Hogg (anti-NRA) and Kyle Kashuv (pro-NRA)
I encourage all students including Hogg and Kashuv to get involved in issues they care about regardless if its a lib or conservative.
No way I would go as low as Axel and describe Kyle Kashuv as a Nazi.
Even though I disagree with pro NRA MDS Student Kyle Kashuv, I encourage him to speak on issues he believes in
WOW!! You are saying I am immoral, unfair, inferior, little or some combination of that I guess, perhaps I'm just disgusting. Sounds like a 3 day time out to me. It's got to be worst than calling someone a kid(Right Babs?)
Wow
I never posted that you are "immoral, unfair, inferior, little or some combination of"
I said "No way I would go as low as Axel"
Can you read????????????
I don't post altered videos. Its fake news encouraging hate against a teen.
clarification
I would never ever go as low as Axelwolf posting a fake edited altered video showing a faked Nazi salute to encourage hate against a teenager.
Its low and I stand by my statement
Next time Mike or one of the Mods do something you don't feel you would do, please say....
I don't think I would go as low as the Wizard[ insert mods name]...
let's see how that works out for you.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
June 26th, 2018 at 12:08:55 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfSo would be ok for me to say I would never be as dumb and terapined?Quote: terapinedQuote: AxelWolf"No way I would go as low as Axel"Quote: terapinedQuote: AxelWolf
I'm pretty surprised at Axel
Its not a Nazi salute. Its a pretty disgusting that Axelwolf is pushing digitally edited lie
sad
I respect all the MSD students including David Hogg (anti-NRA) and Kyle Kashuv (pro-NRA)
I encourage all students including Hogg and Kashuv to get involved in issues they care about regardless if its a lib or conservative.
No way I would go as low as Axel and describe Kyle Kashuv as a Nazi.
Even though I disagree with pro NRA MDS Student Kyle Kashuv, I encourage him to speak on issues he believes in
WOW!! You are saying I am immoral, unfair, inferior, little or some combination of that I guess, perhaps I'm just disgusting. Sounds like a 3 day time out to me. It's got to be worst than calling someone a kid(Right Babs?)
Wow
I never posted that you are "immoral, unfair, inferior, little or some combination of"
I said "No way I would go as low as Axel"
Can you read????????????
I don't post altered videos. Its fake news encouraging hate against a teen.
clarification
I would never ever go as low as Axelwolf posting a fake edited altered video showing a faked Nazi salute to encourage hate against a teenager.
Its low and I stand by my statement
When it comes to casino's, I totally agree with you
Ploppy vs AP, No argument from me in that dept :-)
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
June 26th, 2018 at 12:10:35 PM
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FYI, I added more to my post.Quote: terapinedQuote: AxelWolfSo would be ok for me to say I would never be as dumb and terapined?Quote: terapinedQuote: AxelWolf"No way I would go as low as Axel"Quote: terapinedQuote: AxelWolf
I'm pretty surprised at Axel
Its not a Nazi salute. Its a pretty disgusting that Axelwolf is pushing digitally edited lie
sad
I respect all the MSD students including David Hogg (anti-NRA) and Kyle Kashuv (pro-NRA)
I encourage all students including Hogg and Kashuv to get involved in issues they care about regardless if its a lib or conservative.
No way I would go as low as Axel and describe Kyle Kashuv as a Nazi.
Even though I disagree with pro NRA MDS Student Kyle Kashuv, I encourage him to speak on issues he believes in
WOW!! You are saying I am immoral, unfair, inferior, little or some combination of that I guess, perhaps I'm just disgusting. Sounds like a 3 day time out to me. It's got to be worst than calling someone a kid(Right Babs?)
Wow
I never posted that you are "immoral, unfair, inferior, little or some combination of"
I said "No way I would go as low as Axel"
Can you read????????????
I don't post altered videos. Its fake news encouraging hate against a teen.
clarification
I would never ever go as low as Axelwolf posting a fake edited altered video showing a faked Nazi salute to encourage hate against a teenager.
Its low and I stand by my statement
When it comes to casino's, I totally agree with you
Ploppy vs AP, No argument from me in that dept :-)
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
June 26th, 2018 at 12:25:32 PM
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Quote: AZDuffmanWhat "studies" are needed? We have the FBI stats and they are pretty much unquestionable. Solutions, OTOH, are uncomfortable. So we get calls for laws like taking rights away from 20 year old adults.
Why should someone who isn't old enough to drink be allowed to buy and carry a gun?
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
June 26th, 2018 at 12:36:45 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfFYI, I added more to my post.Quote: terapinedQuote: AxelWolfSo would be ok for me to say I would never be as dumb and terapined?Quote: terapinedQuote: AxelWolf"No way I would go as low as Axel"Quote: terapinedQuote: AxelWolf
I'm pretty surprised at Axel
Its not a Nazi salute. Its a pretty disgusting that Axelwolf is pushing digitally edited lie
sad
I respect all the MSD students including David Hogg (anti-NRA) and Kyle Kashuv (pro-NRA)
I encourage all students including Hogg and Kashuv to get involved in issues they care about regardless if its a lib or conservative.
No way I would go as low as Axel and describe Kyle Kashuv as a Nazi.
Even though I disagree with pro NRA MDS Student Kyle Kashuv, I encourage him to speak on issues he believes in
WOW!! You are saying I am immoral, unfair, inferior, little or some combination of that I guess, perhaps I'm just disgusting. Sounds like a 3 day time out to me. It's got to be worst than calling someone a kid(Right Babs?)
Wow
I never posted that you are "immoral, unfair, inferior, little or some combination of"
I said "No way I would go as low as Axel"
Can you read????????????
I don't post altered videos. Its fake news encouraging hate against a teen.
clarification
I would never ever go as low as Axelwolf posting a fake edited altered video showing a faked Nazi salute to encourage hate against a teenager.
Its low and I stand by my statement
When it comes to casino's, I totally agree with you
Ploppy vs AP, No argument from me in that dept :-)
If the Wiz or a Mod posted that same altered hateful fake news video
My reaction would be the same
I really don't get all this. I never go after Kyle Kashuv He is a pro NRA MSD student that met with Trump
Smart AP Axel hates Hogg. Dumb ploppy terapin is ok with Kyle
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
June 26th, 2018 at 12:41:22 PM
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Because if you are old enough to shed blood and die for your country and you are of majority age, you are in at least 90 percent of the way an adult. That was certainly the case just a few decades ago.Quote: billryanWhy should someone who isn't old enough to drink be allowed to buy and carry a gun?
June 26th, 2018 at 12:50:13 PM
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Quote: billryanWhy should someone who isn't old enough to drink be allowed to buy and carry a gun?
Maybe to allow them to learn to use it responsibly before their heads are off-kilter with alcohol? Not a riposte, just maybe common sense.
Guns are working tools in most of rural America. There is a lot of food-gathering (duck, pheasant, deer, boar) and varmint (crop- or stock-threatening animals it's legal to hunt) removal that's not just necessary, it's a way of life. Everyone I knew growing up used them for one or the other, and most of us could use a gun responsibly by around 11 or 12. Squirrels, crows, foxes, raccoons, etc as the situation required.
Kids are cheap labor in rural America, too. One of the main reasons for the proliferation of the NRA (which they've bastardized and abandoned) was to teach gun classes in a way that turned out responsible and knowledgeable gun kids. I was an NRA member from 7th grade until the early 90s, when they went political in the events of Waco and Ruby Ridge. But chores often included using a gun to take care of something. So you learned early, and used them often.
No one got shot, except a close friend of the family tripped while hunting, his gun not on safety because he was about to shoot, and killed his adult son walking next to him. Enormous tragedy, 100% accident (several others were there). Nobody pointed a gun at their family or friends in anger.
Times change, I guess.
A lot of the disconnect on guns might be the environment in which you live. Urban, it's all about home and personal protection, and gang wars, robberies, muggings. No surprise, their majority is gun-control. Rural and small towns, it's a tool, as above, though with the movement of meth houses into rural areas there's more overlap with crime. Again no surprise, they don't want guns outlawed, harder, or more expensive to get.
But the two sides largely divide by the places they live.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
June 26th, 2018 at 12:57:11 PM
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Maybe we should introduce alcohol use at an earlier age. Or someone can explain how a 12 year old shooting foxes or squirrels is somehow a needed skill in 21st Century Amerikay.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
June 26th, 2018 at 1:03:53 PM
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Quote: billryanMaybe we should introduce alcohol use at an earlier age. Or someone can explain how a 12 year old shooting foxes or squirrels is somehow a needed skill in 21st Century Amerikay.
Anybody who.raises chickens or a vegetable garden can explain, guns are the best varmint protection when your other choices are poison or steel traps that can target anything around them, including pets and young children.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
June 26th, 2018 at 1:04:00 PM
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Quote: billryanMaybe we should introduce alcohol use at an earlier age. Or someone can explain how a 12 year old shooting foxes or squirrels is somehow a needed skill in 21st Century Amerikay.
I like how the car rental people do it. 25 years old (without paying a fee).
Should be 25 years old for everything. Drinking, smoking, voting, joining the military, buying/owning a gun...
People in their late teens and early 20's are still stupid kids as far as I'm concerned.
EDIT: Oh, I think it was AZ saying the other day he never sees right-wingers calling for violence, and I posted a bunch of links.
Well, here's another one:
“I can’t wait for the vigilante squads to start gunning journalists down on sight,” says right-wing nationalist Milo Yiannopoulos.
June 26th, 2018 at 1:34:49 PM
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https://youtu.be/PIFiJdw0uMEQuote: billryanWhy should someone who isn't old enough to drink be allowed to buy and carry a gun?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
June 26th, 2018 at 1:40:02 PM
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Perhaps you just like...Quote: terapined
I really don't get all this. I never go after Kyle Kashuv He is a pro NRA MSD student that met with Trump
Smart AP Axel hates Hogg. Dumb ploppy terapin is ok with Kyle
NVM.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
June 26th, 2018 at 1:45:08 PM
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Quote: beachbumbabsAnybody who.raises chickens or a vegetable garden can explain
He said "21st century", Babs. Ain't no varmints in Wegman's =p
Nah, but really, I came here to challenge your post several pages back about "our side not moving" or some such, but I think I'm just gonna save myself the stroke and go garden instead. This argument is not an argument anymore, or at least not one I can manage. I kinda need my game to be anchored with facts and data. Yet for all my effort, I can't ever seem to engage one of the others. Point out the bastardization of language, no one cares. Point out the fallacies about "AR's" and other scary black guns, nobody cares. Bring up stone solid black and white stats, nobody cares. See watch...
Since 1950, 98.X% of ALLLLLL mass shootings, where "mass shooting" is defined as "4 or more casualties", have happened in gun free zones. That might be a little unfair, what with including such distant history where women knew their place and brown folk weren't so uppity. So let's bring it allllll the way dead into my day, in the time when me and all my millennial reject cohorts started losing their collective s#$%, Since 1998, 96.X% of ALLLLL mass shootings have still happened (guess where) in gun free zones.
I have quite literally typed tens of thousands of words about guns in this forum. I have ninja edited nothing. It's all there for any or all to comb over and look for faults, yet I cannot recall ever having a single good debate with anyone. I don't recall any of my arguments being proven false, being turned over, or being "lost", with the exception of FrG asking "why I needed a machine gun" where my only answer was "CUZ REASONS!!1!" aka, "I want it".
I even offered to help. Tell me what you want gone and I'll sit here and educate you entirely on what that thing is, what it does, and what is does not do. And then you could go off and check what I say against the entirety of the world wide web to confirm, make sure Face ain't pulling a fast one. And in the end, pistol grips and flash suppressors were still worse than contagious airborne cancerAIDS.
T'ain't worth the hassle. So I'll leave the above stat for consideration as I need the crickets to feed my fish, and I'm off to tend my garden.
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June 26th, 2018 at 2:06:25 PM
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Quote: FaceSince 1998, 96.X% of ALLLLL mass shootings have still happened (guess where) in gun free zones.
Is that because mass shooters don't anticipate a fight where there will probably be no guns, or because gun free zones are typically in areas of high concentrations of people, and therefore provide for more targets?
I also found this and this for more information.
June 26th, 2018 at 2:38:44 PM
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The argument to support drinking alcohol has been used to support active duty military. If you're going to defend the country possibly with your life, you should be able to drink alcohol.
I think it's bastardized to use it to defend civilians of the same age just for being the same age.
So, same with gun argument.
I think it's bastardized to use it to defend civilians of the same age just for being the same age.
So, same with gun argument.
There's no secret. Just know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
June 26th, 2018 at 2:54:47 PM
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Quote: Face
Since 1950, 98.X% of ALLLLLL mass shootings, where "mass shooting" is defined as "4 or more casualties", have happened in gun free zones. That might be a little unfair, what with including such distant history where women knew their place and brown folk weren't so uppity.
I'd also guess 98% of shootings in Afghanistan happen in gun-tolerant zones.
(kind of a smart-alecky response, I know)
There's no secret. Just know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
June 26th, 2018 at 3:05:31 PM
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Quote: terapinedRS is scared of a high school kid...
RS goes nuts and crazy over Hogg...
RS is filled with hate for some youngsters.
I think this crosses the line of attacking the writing to attacking the writer. Three days.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
June 26th, 2018 at 4:05:57 PM
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Quote: billryanWhy should someone who isn't old enough to drink be allowed to buy and carry a gun?
Because they are an adult, and drinking has nothing to do with it.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
June 26th, 2018 at 4:16:47 PM
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Quote: AZDuffmanBecause they are an adult, and drinking has nothing to do with it.
Thats a half answer
If they are adults then why cant they drink?
Maybe because they are still deemed unable to fully make adult choices
How to handle a gun properly could be lumped in with that...
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