Trump's Second and Third year in office
Quote: aceofspadesThe 'tolerant' and 'non-violent' Left
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2018/06/20/left-shows-activists-how-to-kill-an-ice-agent-pledges-to-go-after-their-families-n2492637
Yawn
Your post is pretty pointless
There are violent extremists on the left and right
I am pretty tolerant and non violent
I don't own a gun and I would have served Sanders
Quote: aceofspadesThe 'tolerant' and 'non-violent' Left
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2018/06/20/left-shows-activists-how-to-kill-an-ice-agent-pledges-to-go-after-their-families-n2492637
Obviously that is neither tolerant nor non-violent, so why would you even say that?
Quote: ams288Not a tough choice at all.
I'll take Bernie, Lizzie, Kamala, Corey, or whoever and the gun nuts can have fun buying more guns.
Hopefully you never get to let others have that “fun”.
As long as crazy liberals continue to show they don’t have your common sense, those 4 will go down in history with Walter Mondale.
The liberals are getting downright hostile. https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=11044Quote: aceofspadesThe 'tolerant' and 'non-violent' Left
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2018/06/20/left-shows-activists-how-to-kill-an-ice-agent-pledges-to-go-after-their-families-n2492637
Quote: petroglyphThe liberals are getting downright hostile. https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=11044
These are not liberals
Do you consider KKK mainstream republicans?
come on
Have some common sense
Quote: petroglyphThe liberals are getting downright hostile. https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=11044
Antifa are too far left to be considered true liberals. They're mostly communists and socialists.
"They’re anarchists and communists who are way outside the traditional conservative-liberal spectrum. They’re not interested in and don’t feel constrained by conventional norms."
"They have no allegiance to liberal democracy, which they believe has failed the marginalized communities they’re defending."
"Again, though, this is much easier to understand when you remember that antifa isn’t concerned with free speech or other liberal democratic values."
"As I said before, anti-fascists don't have any allegiance to liberalism...."
"Will a lot of people see antifa and their methods as a poor reflection of the left? Absolutely. But I also think that these are not people who were going to vote Democrat anyway. If you read the news or pay attention to what’s happening, you know that Nancy Pelosi has nothing to do with antifa. This group loathes the Democratic Party, and they don’t hide that.
So anyone who blames the Democrats for antifa is likely already disposed to vote Republican anyway."
Source
A person can buy fifty or more handguns in Georgia, where a permit is not even required, and sell them on the streets to criminals anywhere in the country.
We also need a federal law requiring all gun thefts to be reported to the police. If a gun used in a crime is traced back to a bulk purchaser who sold it to a criminal, they can cover themselves by claiming the weapon was stolen.
One law we don’t need is the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act, which is currently working it’s way through Congress and will be signed into law by Trump if it gets past the Senate.
It would allow a person with a concealed carry permit in their home state, to carry their weapon in every state.
Quote: TankoWe need a federal law prohibiting bulk gun purchases. Federal law does not limit the number of guns a person may buy in any given time period.
A person can buy fifty or more handguns in Georgia, where a permit is not even required, and sell them on the streets to criminals anywhere in the country.
We also need a federal law requiring all gun thefts to be reported to the police. If a gun used in a crime is traced back to a bulk purchaser who sold it to a criminal, they can cover themselves by claiming the weapon was stolen.
One law we don’t need is the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act, which is currently working it’s way through Congress and will be signed into law by Trump if it gets past the Senate.
It would allow a person with a concealed carry permit in their home state, to carry their weapon in every state.
I agree with everything you wrote,
Quote: billryanQuote: TankoWe need a federal law prohibiting bulk gun purchases. Federal law does not limit the number of guns a person may buy in any given time period.
A person can buy fifty or more handguns in Georgia, where a permit is not even required, and sell them on the streets to criminals anywhere in the country.
We also need a federal law requiring all gun thefts to be reported to the police. If a gun used in a crime is traced back to a bulk purchaser who sold it to a criminal, they can cover themselves by claiming the weapon was stolen.
One law we don’t need is the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act, which is currently working it’s way through Congress and will be signed into law by Trump if it gets past the Senate.
It would allow a person with a concealed carry permit in their home state, to carry their weapon in every state.
I agree with everything you wrote,
In other words, more gun laws, lol.
Shocking I say, shocking. Would have never expected this from you.
Quote: Boz
In other words, more gun laws, lol.
So you agree we don't need the CCRA?
Quote: TigerWuSo you agree we don't need the CCRA?
I’m a states right guy, so until PA says I can bring in Weed from CO, I accept NY’s crazy laws as well.
So if that makes you happy, at this point I’m ok without the CCRA passing. I’m fine getting a new permit when I move to another state.
It's funny that you think there is a difference between liberals, and to liberal. How much is just the right amount of liberal?Quote: TigerWuAntifa are too far left to be considered true liberals. They're mostly communists and socialists.
Quote: TankoWe need a federal law prohibiting bulk gun purchases. Federal law does not limit the number of guns a person may buy in any given time period.
A person can buy fifty or more handguns in Georgia, where a permit is not even required, and sell them on the streets to criminals anywhere in the country.
We also need a federal law requiring all gun thefts to be reported to the police. If a gun used in a crime is traced back to a bulk purchaser who sold it to a criminal, they can cover themselves by claiming the weapon was stolen.
One law we don’t need is the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act, which is currently working it’s way through Congress and will be signed into law by Trump if it gets past the Senate.
It would allow a person with a concealed carry permit in their home state, to carry their weapon in every state.
Thank you
I also agree with all the above
Quote: petroglyphIt's funny that you think there is a difference between liberals, and to liberal. How much is just the right amount of liberal?
Absolutely
Liberals and conservatives are not calling for violence on each other
Extremists on the left and right that call for violence are neither liberal or conservative
They are extremist a**holes.
Quote: terapinedAbsolutely
Liberals and conservatives are not calling for violence on each other
Publishing the address of DHS and ICE employees and calling for surrounding them and their familys with push back?
https://wtop.com/government/2018/06/increasing-threats-to-homeland-security-include-burned-animal-carcass-left-on-staffers-porch/
Liberals keep pushing and shoving and poking and shouting down anyone who disagrees with Democrats, and someone will eventually answer the tormenting with violence. That is what "common sense" tells me, what does your CS tell you?
Quote: petroglyph
I find this speech disgusting
Quote: petroglyph
Liberals keep pushing and shoving and poking and shouting down anyone who disagrees with Democrats, and someone will eventually answer the tormenting with violence. That is what "common sense" tells me, what does your CS tell you?
???????????
I'm a liberal
I posted that I was attending a Trump rally a couple years ago
The Wiz offered me 100.00 dollars to heckle trump
I refused.
People should have a right to hear Trump without being heckled
Sure there are a**holes on the left or right but they don't represent mainstream Libs or conservatives
Its illogical to say that if a lib says something crazy, that statements represents all libs
but
a conservative says something crazy (Roseanne) and that statement does not represent all conservatives
Do you actually think Maxine speaks for me?
Come on Petro. I know you are smarter then that
I'm not like EB that drools over every word Limbaugh says and reposts it here
I ignore Maxine
Not personally.Quote: terapinedDo you actually think Maxine speaks for me?
If I'm so smart, how do I keep getting misunderstood? I still don't have more than 1 1/2 hours of Trump time, since before the campaign. When I was growing up, the dems were thought of as the party that represented labor. I'm labor, and the dems don't even pretend that the AFL-CIO matters. Trump at least talks the talk. Might overt a war or two, better than I can say for the blue team.Quote:Come on Petro. I know you are smarter then that
Who do you do this? Why does there have to be a personal derogatory statement in almost every post? It drags the forum into the mud.Quote:I'm not like EB that drools over every word Limbaugh says...
Quote: terapinedThese are not liberals
Do you consider KKK mainstream republicans?
come on
Have some common sense
KKK was founded as a Democrat activist group...
Quote: GandlerKKK was founded as a Democrat activist group...
Yea but the reality is they are now all republicans
Quote: terapinedYea but the reality is they are now all republicans
Data on this?
Quote: petroglyphIt's funny that you think there is a difference between liberals, and to liberal. How much is just the right amount of liberal?
I don't know, I'm not the one that makes the rules.
All I know is that those antifa clowns don't claim to be "liberals," and the "experts" seem to agree.
Quote: petroglyphLiberals keep pushing and shoving and poking and shouting down anyone who disagrees with Democrats, and someone will eventually answer the tormenting with violence.
Okay, but let's look at this from the other side of the coin, and imagine yourself as someone who is fed up with Republican politics:
"Conservatives keep pushing and shoving and poking and shouting down anyone who disagrees with Republicans, and someone will eventually answer the tormenting with violence."
Maybe this is where we are now... maybe these liberals/leftists/whatever you want to accuse them of being have finally had enough and are starting to answer with violence.
Quote: GandlerKKK was founded as a Democrat activist group...
And they weren't mainstream back then, either.
Quote: TigerWu
"Conservatives keep pushing and shoving and poking and shouting down anyone who disagrees with Republicans, and someone will eventually answer the tormenting with violence."
I haven't seen conservatives shouting anyone down. But in places like Berkley we have seen leftist violence.
Look to see more. From Maxine Waters to Peter Fonda, we are seeing outright calls for violence from the left.
Quote: terapinedYea but the reality is they are now all republicans
I don't know about "Republicans" in name, but they definitely have very extreme conservative beliefs and values that some Republicans also share.
Quote: AZDuffmanI haven't seen conservatives shouting anyone down. But in places like Berkley we have seen leftist violence.
Look to see more. From Maxine Waters to Peter Fonda, we are seeing outright calls for violence from the left.
Alex Jones and other conservatives call for civil war against liberals
Why does the far right hold a near monopoly on political violence?
25 years of right-wing terrorism in the United States
Terrorist attack from religious and right wing extremists on the rise in the United States
The far right was responsible for the majority of extremist killings in 2017
It's time to talk about right wing extremism
Is the CA rule of one gun every 30 days sufficient? If you just tried to get this new rule passed, you might actually accomplish something.Quote: TankoWe need a federal law prohibiting bulk gun purchases. Federal law does not limit the number of guns a person may buy in any given time period.
See above.Quote: TankoA person can buy fifty or more handguns in Georgia, where a permit is not even required, and sell them on the streets to criminals anywhere in the country.
If you get rid of bulk sales based on the one in 30 day rule above, you don't need this regulation. If a legal gun owners 10 guns gets stolen in a home robbery, what difference is reporting the theft going to have on how any of the guns gets used after it is stolen from a legal gun owner.Quote: TankoWe also need a federal law requiring all gun thefts to be reported to the police. If a gun used in a crime is traced back to a bulk purchaser who sold it to a criminal, they can cover themselves by claiming the weapon was stolen.
In CA, 16 hours of training is required for a CCW. A proficiency test on shooting/accuracy with the specific gun listed on your permit must also be passed. That takes a bit of time at the range practicing with your CCW weapon. There is also an extensive background check done (not just a NICS check) as well as a "one on one" in person interview at the Sheriff's Office by an Officer in the CCW Unit. Permit holders are required to go through a renewal process every two years to maintain their ability to conceal carry.Quote: TankoOne law we don’t need is the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act, which is currently working it’s way through Congress and will be signed into law by Trump if it gets past the Senate.
It would allow a person with a concealed carry permit in their home state, to carry their weapon in every state.
Please explain why you believe a CA Resident CCW holder that passes this level of scrutiny and training shouldn't be allowed to conceal carry when visiting any other state in the nation? Does all that training and background scrutiny suddenly become obsolete & worthless when you cross a state border? This is the kind of crazy that makes sure nothing sensible gets passed...y'all keep up the good work!
The CCRA should pass and allow CCW holders that have met their home state requirements to travel throughout the nation while carrying concealed. Next you'll be lobbying for non-Nevadans to pass a Nevada Driver's License test before allowing them to rent a car at McCarran. I mean we have had pedestrians maliciously run over by cars in Vegas, this is a serious problem that needs regulation...where is your outrage for stricter driver license regulation for those not carrying an in-state driver's license for every state they cross during that family summer road trip?
I'd be in favor of national carry permits, provided all jurisdictions required the same standards. I think Nevada's requirements are pretty good, while twenty miles away in Arizona, there are almost no restrictions or training required.
Quote: lilredrooster
Here we go again.
Does it really make you feel good posting that?
Embarrassing.
Quote: BozQuote: lilredrooster
Here we go again.
Does it really make you feel good posting that?
Embarrassing.
yeah, it makes me feel good.
and I'm not the least bit embarrassed.
neither is the cartoonist who makes 6 figures drawing his stuff.
how about you? are you embarrassed about likening a WOV member to Hitler?
want more?
Quote: lilredroosterQuote: BozQuote: lilredrooster
Here we go again.
Does it really make you feel good posting that?
Embarrassing.
yeah, it makes me feel good.
and I'm not the least bit embarrassed.
neither is the cartoonist who makes 6 figures drawing his stuff.
how about you? are you embarrassed about likening a WOV member to Hitler?
want more?
Sure keep it coming.
No different than what much of the left and the media is doing to help Trump become more popular.
If it makes you feel good, who am I to tell you to stop?
Keep crowing!
what am I going to do - debate policy with a man who implied that Ted Cruz's father was involved in the JFK assassination?
a man who's greatest appeal is to followers or clones or imitators of Alex Jones - a man who just makes stuff up if he thinks it will rile people up
Quote: aceofspadesData on this?
No time this week, but follow the history of "dixiecrats" and "yellow dog democrats" and the movement of these folks from Goldwater 64 to Reagan 80 into the Republican party. KKK is a subset of this movement, with a nearly 100 % commonality.
Quote: AxelWolf
I’m embarrassed for you Axel.
Willfully spreading fake propaganda.
His hand was closed. That video has been digitally edited.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/david-hogg-give-nazi-salute/
Quote: AxelWolf
I'm pretty surprised at Axel
Its not a Nazi salute. Its a pretty disgusting that Axelwolf is pushing digitally edited lie
sad
I respect all the MSD students including David Hogg (anti-NRA) and Kyle Kashuv (pro-NRA)
I encourage all students including Hogg and Kashuv to get involved in issues they care about regardless if its a lib or conservative.
No way I would go as low as Axel and describe Kyle Kashuv as a Nazi.
Even though I disagree with pro NRA MDS Student Kyle Kashuv, I encourage him to speak on issues he believes in
Quote: ParadigmIf you get rid of bulk sales based on the one in 30 day rule above, you don't need this regulation. If a legal gun owners 10 guns gets stolen in a home robbery, what difference is reporting the theft going to have on how any of the guns gets used after it is stolen from a legal gun owner.
Very few states limit bulk gun sales. Not even Hawaii.
One gun every thirty days would be an improvement, but Congress will not approve it.
Requiring the theft of a stolen gun is meant to discourage gun runners, and illegal gun sales. It is one thing to report the theft of ten guns from a home, and another to report the theft of dozens of guns a few times a year.
Quote: ParadigmIn CA, 16 hours of training is required for a CCW. A proficiency test on shooting/accuracy with the specific gun listed on your permit must also be passed. That takes a bit of time at the range practicing with your CCW weapon. There is also an extensive background check done (not just a NICS check) as well as a "one on one" in person interview at the Sheriff's Office by an Officer in the CCW Unit. Permit holders are required to go through a renewal process every two years to maintain their ability to conceal carry.
Please explain why you believe a CA Resident CCW holder that passes this level of scrutiny and training shouldn't be allowed to conceal carry when visiting any other state in the nation?
Every year, between 200,000 and 400,000 guns are stolen from idiots who obtained them lawfully, but didn’t secure them.
100% of those guns end up in the hands of criminals, and people die.
Last year, there were only 290 homicides in NYC, despite a resident population of 8.5 million, plus another 60 million annual visitors and 600,000 daily non-resident commuters.
NYC also has a lower overall crime rate than London, and recently had a lower murder rate as well.
We achieved those results with strict weapons laws, especially strict gun laws, a strong police force, smart leadership, and public involvement.
Anyone in a situation where they need a gun, is already at a strategic disadvantage. If they reach for their weapon, they will be killed. So much for that training and time at the range.
We don’t need some goober with a pitiful sixteen hours of training and a certificate coming here with a gun, because the crackers in Congress are looking for votes.
Quote: RS
Weird. Doesn’t look anything like Ivanka to me...
Quote: ams288Quote: RS
Weird. Doesn’t look anything like Ivanka to me...
RS is scared of a high school kid.
ROTFL
HOGG has so much influence these days. Conservatives such as RS hang on his every word.
RS is so scared of a young kid he has to bring up Hitler
Lol
I yawn at Kyle Kashuv
RS goes nuts and crazy over Hogg
I leave teens alone. RS is filled with hate for some youngsters.
weird
Quote: RS
Hogg for president 2040
Scared enough?
You can do better. How about some real discussion.
Quote: ParadigmWow...you pulled out the idiot & goober cards!! ... Well done...you’ve got our attention now,...
Are you saying what I think you're saying?
Quote: beachbumbabsReally, guys? Is that all ya got, spreading hate and discontent with trashy and dishonest memes?
You can do better. How about some real discussion.
Uhmmmm...Babs, I hope you were including this in your consternation:
Quote: lilredrooster
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/26/politics/read-scotus-travel-ban-decision/index.html
These David Hogg/Hitler comparisons are hilarious.
If Hogg was in Nazi Germany, as a pro-gun liberal Democrat he would have been one of the first ones sent to the camps...
Quote: aceofspadesFull decision from SCOTUS today -- this way we can all read it in its entirety before commenting thereon:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/26/politics/read-scotus-travel-ban-decision/index.html
Nothing more than "feel good" legislation that doesn't really solve any problems, just to pander to his base.
Quote: beachbumbabsReally, guys? Is that all ya got, spreading hate and discontent with trashy and dishonest memes?
You can do better. How about some real discussion.
Can we suspend a thread for 3 days?
Looking at the news, this is just going to get worse today.
