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June 5th, 2018 at 6:23:15 AM permalink
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I am not sure why there is an uproar if Melania goes out of sight for a few days or weeks. Rest easy....there have been confirmed sightings...

Anyway, who cares? First ladies (and someday, the First Man, or whatever...and maybe even First Partner...) are not elected and they should pretty much be sticking to their chosen good works.

There are so many other real issues...that is the last I will have to say on the First Lady....


Exactly. But the lefties have no solutions for the real issues so they have to constantly harp of non issues like who our greatest President ever banged 10 years before he even ran his first campaign.
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June 5th, 2018 at 6:29:43 AM permalink
Quote: wellwellwell

Exactly. But the lefties have no solutions for the real issues so they have to constantly harp of non issues like who our greatest President ever banged 10 years before he even ran his first campaign.



I wonder if Melanie/Melania considers it a non issue. I suspect not.
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June 5th, 2018 at 7:18:33 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

I wonder if Melanie/Melania considers it a non issue. I suspect not.



Or Michael/Michelle:

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June 5th, 2018 at 7:27:36 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Or Michael/Michelle:



This is what, your third time posting that video?

I'm not aware of Obama raw dogging any porn stars while his wife was nursing their newborn...
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June 5th, 2018 at 7:38:10 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Quote: aceofspades

Or Michael/Michelle:



This is what, your third time posting that video?

I'm not aware of Obama raw dogging any porn stars while his wife was nursing their newborn...



That's because he has a "partner" , not a wife.
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June 5th, 2018 at 7:42:58 AM permalink
The Trumps and Obamas of the world crap all over you guys, and you just can't see it. Same rich people after every election. The doctors and judges f the system, along with the others. Say, how about the casinos? Well, you do see it, and it manifests itself accordingly.
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June 5th, 2018 at 8:02:59 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Quote: aceofspades

Or Michael/Michelle:



This is what, your third time posting that video?

I'm not aware of Obama raw dogging any porn stars while his wife was nursing their newborn...



Same as you posting Melanie/Melania
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June 5th, 2018 at 8:04:58 AM permalink
Quote: 1MatterToMotion

The Trumps and Obamas of the world crap all over you guys, and you just can't see it. Same rich people after every election. The doctors and judges f the system, along with the others. Say, how about the casinos? Well, you do see it, and it manifests itself accordingly.



I'll bite. I'm a doctor. How am I "f'ing" the system? Is it by paying 100 times as much in Federal taxes as the average family will this year (see paradigm's previous post)?
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June 5th, 2018 at 8:05:53 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Same as you posting Melanie/Melania



Are you really triggered that easily? lol
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June 5th, 2018 at 8:09:52 AM permalink
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Are you really triggered that easily? lol



Are you...?
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June 5th, 2018 at 8:18:22 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Are you...?



I have yet to feel the urge to post the same YouTube video over and over whenever someone takes a swipe at either of the Obamas. Hbu?
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June 5th, 2018 at 8:20:40 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

I have yet to feel the urge to post the same YouTube video over and over whenever someone takes a swipe at either of the Obamas. Hbu?



yet you love to bring up a Twitter typo from President Trump
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June 5th, 2018 at 8:21:11 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

I have yet to feel the urge to post the same YouTube video over and over whenever someone takes a swipe at either of the Obamas. Hbu?



But you post the same tired posts about Trump..... Classic TDS.....
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June 5th, 2018 at 8:35:22 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

But you post the same tired posts about Trump..... Classic TDS.....



Yeah, and I'm not going to stop anytime soon.

It amuses me to see how much pointing out his various idiocies gets under the skin of certain righties.
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June 5th, 2018 at 8:43:40 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Quote: ams288

Quote: aceofspades

Or Michael/Michelle:



This is what, your third time posting that video?

I'm not aware of Obama raw dogging any porn stars while his wife was nursing their newborn...



Same as you posting Melanie/Melania


Lets face facts. Its real name is Bruce.
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June 5th, 2018 at 8:58:48 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

Trump cancels Eagles WH visit. Now the liberal spin is only 10-15 Eagles we’re going to attend.

Either way, Trump wins with his base and the middle while the left again makes it appear Americans are dying at the hands of the police everyday through no fault of their own.

Any wonder why liberals are considered more and more out of the beliefs of mainstream America everyday?

Total insult to the working class fans of the Eagles.

See what support they have when they are 4-12 again.



Soooo..... I still don't care about this story (or the NFL in general).

But I just saw that none of the Eagles players even took a knee last season?! So what is the big deal here and why are we blaming liberals for it?
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June 5th, 2018 at 8:59:31 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Melania is still missing!

Just as Gold Star families are missing. Talk about disrespect!

Just as any support for the ridiculous assertion about who funds Avenatti is missing. Just more empty vitriol.

What else is fake "missing"?
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June 5th, 2018 at 9:05:56 AM permalink
Well, this should surprise absolutely no one... haha...

Like Donald Trump, Fox News gets caught lying about the Philadelphia Eagles.

"I think that is good," Trump said of the new rule. "I don't think people should be staying in locker rooms. You have to stand proudly for the national anthem. Or you shouldn't be playing, you shouldn't be there, maybe you shouldn't be in this country."

What a whiny, crybaby, snowflake this man is. NOBODY should be forced to stand for the national anthem. That is the complete antithesis of what this country is supposed to be about. And to suggest they shouldn't be in the country if they don't is mind-boggingly stupid. And the fact that the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES is saying this is absolute and utter insanity.

This is probably the most un-American thing Trump has ever said. Can you imagine if Obama or any other President said something like this? Holy cow, there'd be blood running in the streets....

I can't wait until this man is dead and buried. There'll be a line of people waiting to pee on his grave, and as a true American I'll be there in my military uniform waiting to take my turn.
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June 5th, 2018 at 9:06:57 AM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza



What else is fake "missing"?



America's greatness.
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June 5th, 2018 at 9:27:07 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

America's greatness.

So all the empty instances cited are accurate. Thanks!
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June 5th, 2018 at 9:30:03 AM permalink
Will the real righties on here please standup?

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June 5th, 2018 at 10:17:36 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu


What a whiny, crybaby, snowflake this man is. NOBODY should be forced to stand for the national anthem. That is the complete antithesis of what this country is supposed to be about. And to suggest they shouldn't be in the country if they don't is mind-boggingly stupid. And the fact that the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES is saying this is absolute and utter insanity.



Nobody is forcing them to stand. They can quit playing, take a different job, and watch from home.

The snowflakes and crybabies are the folks who have a problem that the players are being told to stand BY THEIR EMPLOYER!

And their employer is doing it because THE CUSTOMER, i.e.: the fans, demand it.
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June 5th, 2018 at 10:55:01 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Nobody is forcing them to stand. They can quit playing, take a different job, and watch from home.

The snowflakes and crybabies are the folks who have a problem that the players are being told to stand BY THEIR EMPLOYER!

And their employer is doing it because THE CUSTOMER, i.e.: the fans, demand it.


But....they didn’t even do that.

Fact: No player on the Eagles took a knee during the national anthem during the 2017 regular season, post season or Super Bowl last season.

The photos being spun by conservative media are players kneeling to pray prior to the game and not during the national anthem.
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June 5th, 2018 at 10:55:04 AM permalink
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For supporters of the the racist, sexist, rapist, con-artist, and the compulsive liar Trump, especially for those supporters who lack common sense, who often hide behind the "tldr" veil due to his inability to articulate or to provide intelligent counter points, those who cowardly use forum moderator(s) to censor opposing view points by needlessly invoking the violation of TOS card/excuse, and finally for those who have reading comprehension issue -- here is an inspiration quote from the racist, sexist, rapist, con-artist, and the compulsive liar Trump to cheer you up:

"Don’t just get involved. Fight for your seat at the table. Better yet, fight for a seat at the head of the table’ — Donald J. Trump.”

Source:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/04/us/graduate-quotes-trump-obama.html

https://youtu.be/uKBzMKYD384
Last edited by: 777 on Jun 5, 2018
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June 5th, 2018 at 11:10:55 AM permalink
Quote: 777

For supporters of the the racist, sexist, rapist, con-artist, and the compulsive liar Trump, especially for those supporters who lack common sense, who often hide behind the "tldr" veil due to his inability to articulate or to provide intelligent counter points, those who cowardly use forum moderator(s) to censor opposing view points by needlessly revoking the violation of TOS card/excuse, and finally for those who have reading comprehension issue -- here is an inspiration quote from the racist, sexist, rapist, con-artist, and the compulsive liar Trump to cheer you up:

"Don’t just get involved. Fight for your seat at the table. Better yet, fight for a seat at the head of the table’ — Donald J. Trump.”

Why the long, insulting preamble?

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June 5th, 2018 at 11:11:14 AM permalink
Quote: 777

For supporters of the the racist, sexist, rapist, con-artist, and the compulsive liar Trump, especially for those supporters who lack common sense, who often hide behind the "tldr" veil due to his inability to articulate or to provide intelligent counter points, those who cowardly use forum moderator(s) to censor opposing view points by needlessly revoking the violation of TOS card/excuse, and finally for those who have reading comprehension issue -- here is an inspiration quote from the racist, sexist, rapist, con-artist, and the compulsive liar Trump to cheer you up:

"Don’t just get involved. Fight for your seat at the table. Better yet, fight for a seat at the head of the table’ — Donald J. Trump.”

Source:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/04/us/graduate-quotes-trump-obama.html

https://youtu.be/uKBzMKYD384



TL;DR
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June 5th, 2018 at 11:13:36 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

But....they didn’t even do that.

Fact: No player on the Eagles took a knee during the national anthem during the 2017 regular season, post season or Super Bowl last season.



Well, they clearly had some kind of problem with a WH visit for whatever reason. I really don't care the nitpicky details. Moral of the story seems to be don't try to make a fool of Trump as he does not just lie down like the George W. Bushes of the political world.
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June 5th, 2018 at 11:30:56 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

And their employer is doing it because THE CUSTOMER, i.e.: the fans, demand it.



When the 2017 NFL season started very few players demonstrated during the National Anthem. A month into the season Trump made his comments that the NFL should fire any player who doesn't stand. For a few weeks after that a lot of players either knelt or stayed in the locker room and the NFL did the opposite of what Trump said he would have done. Then as the seasons progressed, fewer and fewer players demonstrated, until it was back to the beginning of the season levels.

There was virtually no difference in customer behavior in supporting of the product throughout the season despite huge swings in the number of players standing, sitting, or staying in the locker room.
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June 5th, 2018 at 11:31:28 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Will the real righties on here please standup?

If you spoke to me at spring fling you know what im asking


Only people I remember speaking to you were Wizard and a potential Nathan-look-a-like.
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June 5th, 2018 at 11:31:34 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: 777

For supporters of the the racist, sexist, rapist, con-artist, and the compulsive liar Trump, especially for those supporters who lack common sense, who often hide behind the "tldr" veil due to his inability to articulate or to provide intelligent counter points, those who cowardly use forum moderator(s) to censor opposing view points by needlessly invoking the violation of TOS card/excuse, and finally for those who have reading comprehension issue -- here is an inspiration quote from the racist, sexist, rapist, con-artist, and the compulsive liar Trump to cheer you up:

"Don’t just get involved. Fight for your seat at the table. Better yet, fight for a seat at the head of the table’ — Donald J. Trump.”

Why the long, insulting preamble?



Your quote to my reply without attribute the original source is very misleading (I believe it was not intentional on your part). Below is my original post with the source:

For supporters of the the racist, sexist, rapist, con-artist, and the compulsive liar Trump, especially for those supporters who lack common sense, who often hide behind the "tldr" veil due to his inability to articulate or to provide intelligent counter points, those who cowardly use forum moderator(s) to censor opposing view points by needlessly invoking the violation of TOS card/excuse, and finally for those who have reading comprehension issue -- here is an inspiration quote from the racist, sexist, rapist, con-artist, and the compulsive liar Trump to cheer you up:

"Don’t just get involved. Fight for your seat at the table. Better yet, fight for a seat at the head of the table’ — Donald J. Trump.”

Source:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/04/us/graduate-quotes-trump-obama.html

https://youtu.be/uKBzMKYD384

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June 5th, 2018 at 11:32:27 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Well, they clearly had some kind of problem with a WH visit for whatever reason.



The Eagles had no problem with it. Each individual invited either accepted or declined. Trump was the one who had a problem with it
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June 5th, 2018 at 11:41:10 AM permalink
Quote: TomG

The Eagles had no problem with it. Each individual invited either accepted or declined. Trump was the one who had a problem with it



It's becoming clear the WH was afraid only a small number of players would show up and this would somehow "embarrass" the President.

This has nothing to do with kneeling (as none of the Eagles kneeled during the National Anthem last season), and everything to do with Donald's frail ego.
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June 5th, 2018 at 11:51:50 AM permalink
I keep wondering how Trump hasn't had
a single 'beer summit' yet, for all the
racism he's accused of. You remember,
Racist in Chief Obama was forced apologize
to a cop for his racist remarks and he
had a beer summit at the WH so Obama
could kiss the cops ass in front of the
world.

If Trump's so racist, like Obama, how
come the press hasn't forced a single
ass kissing beer summit yet. Very odd.

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June 5th, 2018 at 11:55:04 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

You remember,
Racist in Chief Obama was forced apologize
to a cop for his racist remarks and he
had a beer summit at the WH so Obama
could kiss the cops ass in front of the
world.



Well there's some revisionist history for ya. LOL
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June 5th, 2018 at 11:58:01 AM permalink
Quote: TomG

When the 2017 NFL season started very few players demonstrated during the National Anthem. A month into the season Trump made his comments that the NFL should fire any player who doesn't stand. For a few weeks after that a lot of players either knelt or stayed in the locker room and the NFL did the opposite of what Trump said he would have done. Then as the seasons progressed, fewer and fewer players demonstrated, until it was back to the beginning of the season levels.

There was virtually no difference in customer behavior in supporting of the product throughout the season despite huge swings in the number of players standing, sitting, or staying in the locker room.



Except behavior has changed. Ratings are down, and down over a down year. Anecdotally I can say that I have seen more people just no longer caring.

It is the kind of thing where it takes a few years to really notice, but when you do notice it is too late. From experience I can say that it is a little hard when you first tune out. Once it is a habit, it is really easy to not care. The NFL has decided they are embarrassed about having the working class white male as a fan. The working class white male is starting to oblige them and has been leaving.
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June 5th, 2018 at 12:05:53 PM permalink
I’m not sure why trump keeps insisting on going after sports and interfering with their business.

I’m another thread on another forum someone said something like, “maybe they are trying to distract from the investigation on Russia and the White House colluding for ovechkin and the capitols to win the Stanley cup finals.”
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June 5th, 2018 at 12:05:56 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Will the real righties on here please standup?

If you spoke to me at spring fling you know what im asking



Have no clue what you are talking about but the nice thing about the meetups is people of different views can meet up and be civil. And most on here are not afraid to show up and meet others they disagree with. But that still doesn't make us "righties" wrong about what we know is best for others. Simple, basic common sense.

I get you were homeless and on the street. The fact that you are where you are today shows anyone can come back from a bad situation. It just takes hard work and dedication which I believe from a distance you do every day.

Or you can blame Trump and believe Bernie and freebees will solve everything.
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June 5th, 2018 at 12:33:45 PM permalink
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Except behavior has changed. Ratings are down, and down over a down year. Anecdotally I can say that I have seen more people just no longer caring.



The vast majority of National Anthem kneeling came at the end of September / beginning of October. Yet those weeks had higher ratings than November / December, when the kneeling was a lot less: http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/nfl-tv-ratings-viewership-nbc-cbs-fox-espn-nfln-regular-season-playoffs/

Quote: AZDuffman

It is the kind of thing where it takes a few years to really notice, but when you do notice it is too late.



The ratings did drop overall in 2017 compared to 2016. But Colin Kaepernick was blackballed in 2017, whereas he was still an NFL quarterback taking a knee in 2016. Now that we have two full years of data, we're seeing that when management fights back against player protests, the ratings go down.

Were there any noteworthy National Anthem demonstrations in the NFL in 2015 or earlier?
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June 5th, 2018 at 12:40:34 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Nobody is forcing them to stand. They can quit playing, take a different job, and watch from home.

The snowflakes and crybabies are the folks who have a problem that the players are being told to stand BY THEIR EMPLOYER!

And their employer is doing it because THE CUSTOMER, i.e.: the fans, demand it.


We are? I demand it be TAKEN OUT OF SPORTS!!!!! Tradition or not, it has no damn business being there!!!
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June 5th, 2018 at 12:49:08 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Well there's some revisionist history for ya. LOL



How so.

"Barack Obama found himself in the middle of the ongoing debate over racial profiling when he gave divisive remarks after the arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr. in his own home. Obama's image as a racial healer never recovered." Washington Post

Obama played the race card because he's
a racist. He was never seen as anything but
a racist after that, even though the press
tried to hide it. Obama was stunned that
his racist remarks were seen as racism (most
racists think they are 'normal') and he ordered
the humiliating beer summit to make him look
non racist. It didn't work.
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June 5th, 2018 at 12:49:11 PM permalink
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We are? I demand it be TAKEN OUT OF SPORTS!!!!! Tradition or not, it has no damn business being there!!!



You did not know the fans are the customers?

Vote with your eyeballs. Tune the game out. Buy no tickets. Write the teams with your views.

Maybe they respond or maybe more customers like it in and you are just the guy who buys the McLean Deluxe.
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June 5th, 2018 at 12:52:18 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

How so.

"Barack Obama found himself in the middle of the ongoing debate over racial profiling when he gave divisive remarks after the arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr. in his own home. Obama's image as a racial healer never recovered." Washington Post

Obama played the race card because he's
a racist. He was never seen as anything but
a racist after that, even though the press
tried to hide it. Obama was stunned that
his racist remarks were seen as racism (most
racists think they are 'normal') and he ordered
the humiliating beer summit to make him look
non racist. It didn't work.



I give kudos to the cop for being a man about it and coming in when the POTUS called him in.
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June 5th, 2018 at 12:55:39 PM permalink
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I give kudos to the cop for being a man about it and coming in when the POTUS called him in.



Maybe he's just a drunk and only wanted the free beer.
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June 5th, 2018 at 1:01:19 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Maybe he's just a drunk and only wanted the free beer.



Obama sat for 20 years in one of the
most racially divisive churches in
the country, Rev Wright's, cheering
on his racial remarks for decades.
Of course Obama is a racist, how could
he not be. His wife is 10 times as
worse than he'll ever be.
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June 5th, 2018 at 1:37:44 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Obama sat for 20 years in one of the
most racially divisive churches in
the country, Rev Wright's, cheering
on his racial remarks for decades.
Of course Obama is a racist, how could
he not be. His wife is 10 times as
worse than he'll ever be.



This is just like the time you tried to say Obama was orange hued, not Donald.

You're feebly attempting to deflect away from Donald's racism.

It ain't gonna work with me, but I'm sure your buddy AZ will back you up on it. He's always happy to listen to your B.S.
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June 5th, 2018 at 2:04:52 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

This is just like the time you tried to say Obama was orange hued, not Donald.

You're feebly attempting to deflect away from Donald's racism.

It ain't gonna work with me, but I'm sure your buddy AZ will back you up on it. He's always happy to listen to your B.S.



What has President Trump said, while in office, that is racist?
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June 5th, 2018 at 2:16:12 PM permalink
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What has President Trump said, while in office, that is racist?



Didn't he order vanilla ice cream not chocolate?
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June 5th, 2018 at 2:17:27 PM permalink
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Didn't he order vanilla ice cream not chocolate?




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June 5th, 2018 at 2:20:05 PM permalink
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What has President Trump said, while in office, that is racist?



"Shithole countries" - referring to Haiti and African nations
"Some very fine people on both sides" - referring to Nazis
"These aren't people. These are animals." - referring to immigrants (and not just MS-13, as the righties try to claim)
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