Trump's Second and Third year in office
Quote: BozIt’s honestly amazing to me how many times you bring up the “personal insult” issue.
The explanation is pretty simple: I like to see righties in red.
Quote: lilredroosterif you were a father in Honduras living in desperate poverty and feeling that your wife and children were threatened by violent street gangs 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐰𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐝 𝐛𝐞 𝐝𝐨𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐞𝐱𝐚𝐜𝐭 𝐬𝐚𝐦𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠
but you wouldn't be calling yourself an illegal invader from Sh&&oles trying to get the proserity
you would be calling yourself a man trying to take care of his family
Because that’s EXACTLY what is happening to them. Everyone is a victim, right?
Next thing you will be believing they are running from Zombies.
Did this sh&&&&le just get overrun with gangs? If not, why are these “good people “ bringing kids into such a world?
I cannot believe how some find a way to justify anything.
Quote: BozI cannot believe how some find a way to justify anything.
Sounds like you’re talking about Trump voters continuing to support him, despite letting illegal invaders into the country everyday. Unbelievable that is what they think it means to Make America Great Again
Quote: BozEveryone is a victim, right?
why are these “good people “ bringing kids into such a world?
no, everyone is not a victim. some are predators. some are prey
the drive to procreate is so strong that nothing will stop it even if the situation seems hopeless
that is the nature of human beings - they have hope no matter what - children represent hope - for a better life - a brighter future - among other things
chances are very good that somewhere within your ancestry, one or more of your ancestors lived in great poverty and in the middle of a war
and they continued to have children
if they hadn't done that you wouldn't be here criticizing other people for having children
Quote: lilredroosterno, everyone is not a victim. some are predators. some are prey
the drive to procreate is so strong that nothing will stop it even if the situation seems hopeless
that is the nature of human beings - they have hope no matter what - children represent hope - for a better life - a brighter future - among other things
chances are very good that somewhere within your ancestry, one or more of your ancestors lived in great poverty
and they continued to have children
if they hadn't have done that you wouldn't be here criticizing other people for having children
In other words, they can’t control their junk, can’t take the effort wrapping it and are willing to bring a child into a world where they can’t support it. Yea, these are the exact type of people we need as immigrants. And you wonder why they are dependent their entire lives.
Sounds like the human equivalent of rabbits to me.
But thanks for better explaining their (lack of) thought process. Next you can explain to me why I should pay a higher percentage of my income in taxes if I work harder and make a better living for myself to support these people when they come here and sign right up for welfare.
I'm very sorry but that is not factual -
this is from the Harvard Business Review
if you want you can say that Harvard is a BS university and that everything they say is biased and wrong
https://hbr.org/2018/10/research-shows-immigrants-help-businesses-grow-heres-why
Quote: TomGSounds like you’re talking about Trump voters continuing to support him, despite letting illegal invaders into the country everyday. Unbelievable that is what they think it means to Make America Great Again
And you sound like a typical angry at Trump liberal.
But there is help out here if you where to look and how to take advantage of it.
Or just sit back and bitch and believe the Clown Car cast of Dem candidates will save you.
Quote: lilredroosteryou are saying that these immigrants only take - that they don't give - that they don't contribute
I'm very sorry but that is not factual -
this is from the Harvard Business Review
if you want you can say that Harvard is a BS university and that everything they say is biased and wrong
https://hbr.org/2018/10/research-shows-immigrants-help-businesses-grow-heres-why
Did you read the article or just see the headline?
It is about legally admitted immigrants.
Not about the ones illegally entering our country.
Quote: lilredroosteryou are saying that these immigrants only take - that they don't give - that they don't contribute
I'm very sorry but that is not factual -
this is from the Harvard Business Review
if you want you can say that Harvard is a BS university and that everything they say is biased and wrong
https://hbr.org/2018/10/research-shows-immigrants-help-businesses-grow-heres-why
Simple, we need educated immigrants who come the right way. Not unskilled illegals standing outside a Home Depot willing to work for cash.
Until you can show me every able bodied American has a job and is not collecting benefits for not working, I disagree that we need illegals.
PS, F Harvard. When was the last time they won any worthwhile sporting event?
Quote: wellwellwell[
Did you read the article or just see the headline?
It is about legally admitted immigrants.
Not about the ones illegally entering our country.
yes I read the article
sorry, but it doesn't say a single word about the legal status of the immigrants they are referring to
many U.S. employers who are U.S. citizens hire undocumented immigrants and get rich off of their labor
a great many, I don't what %, of the immigrants trying to come here are going through the process attempting to be legally granted asylum
Quote: lilredroosterQuote: wellwellwell[
Did you read the article or just see the headline?
It is about legally admitted immigrants.
Not about the ones illegally entering our country.
yes I read the article
sorry, but it doesn't say a single word about the legal status of the immigrants they are referring to
many U.S. employers who are U.S. citizens hire undocumented immigrants and get rich off of their labor
a great many, I don't what %, of the immigrants trying to come here are going through the process attempting to be legally granted asylum
Great,
How about you taking into your home a couple dozen of these highly skilled, productive, and possibly highly infectious illegal immigrants.
https://www.infowars.com/hundreds-of-illegals-from-ebola-ridden-congo-dumped-in-texas-350-more-on-the-way/
Quote: BozAny idea if they offer buses that accommodate swarms of bees and cross into that wasteland?
They have bees and busses in las vegas?
Quote: wellwellwellQuote: lilredroosterQuote: wellwellwell[
Did you read the article or just see the headline?
It is about legally admitted immigrants.
Not about the ones illegally entering our country.
yes I read the article
sorry, but it doesn't say a single word about the legal status of the immigrants they are referring to
many U.S. employers who are U.S. citizens hire undocumented immigrants and get rich off of their labor
a great many, I don't what %, of the immigrants trying to come here are going through the process attempting to be legally granted asylum
Great,
How about you taking into your home a couple dozen of these highly skilled, productive, and possibly highly infectious illegal immigrants.
https://www.infowars.com/hundreds-of-illegals-from-ebola-ridden-congo-dumped-in-texas-350-more-on-the-way/
How about not providing links to garbage sites for your sources? Infowars:really?
Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: wellwellwell
How about not providing links to garbage sites for your sources? Infowars:really?
Alex Jones, the hero of Infowars, defended himself in the Sandy Hook civil lawsuit by claiming he had "psychosis."
but maybe he's gotten on meds and he can be trusted now............ 😃😃 😃
https://www.apnews.com/d577b2fac08d40c4bf56a662a9ab04cd
Quote: darkozThey have bees and busses in las vegas?
I'd imagine swarms of bees are the least of one's problems when riding a bus in Vegas.
Quote: beachbumbabs
How about not providing links to garbage sites for your sources? Infowars:really?
Is that a new bannable biased rule coming soon to a forum near us?
Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: wellwellwellQuote: lilredroosterQuote: wellwellwell[
Did you read the article or just see the headline?
It is about legally admitted immigrants.
Not about the ones illegally entering our country.
yes I read the article
sorry, but it doesn't say a single word about the legal status of the immigrants they are referring to
many U.S. employers who are U.S. citizens hire undocumented immigrants and get rich off of their labor
a great many, I don't what %, of the immigrants trying to come here are going through the process attempting to be legally granted asylum
Great,
How about you taking into your home a couple dozen of these highly skilled, productive, and possibly highly infectious illegal immigrants.
https://www.infowars.com/hundreds-of-illegals-from-ebola-ridden-congo-dumped-in-texas-350-more-on-the-way/
How about not providing links to garbage sites for your sources? Infowars:really?
Did you read the sources within the "garbage site" article?
Like the twitter feed of the San Antonio Channel 5 reporter that first reported the story or the CBP or the White House?
Are those garbage sources?
Here, directly from the Channel 5 website..............
https://www.kens5.com/article/news/local/parle-vous-francais-city-searches-for-french-speakers-as-hundreds-of-congolese-asylum-seekers-head-to-sa/273-0c015995-05b2-4a0e-959b-fdc1d2991d6f
Quote: wellwellwellHow about you taking into your home a couple dozen of these highly skilled, productive, and possibly highly infectious illegal immigrants.
https://www.infowars.com/hundreds-of-illegals-from-ebola-ridden-congo-dumped-in-texas-350-more-on-the-way/
This is definitely the type of stuff Trump and his supporters think it takes to Make America Great Again
Quote: BozIn other words, they can’t control their junk, can’t take the effort wrapping it and are willing to bring a child into a world where they can’t support it. Yea, these are the exact type of people we need as immigrants. And you wonder why they are dependent their entire lives.
Sounds like the human equivalent of rabbits to me.
But thanks for better explaining their (lack of) thought process. Next you can explain to me why I should pay a higher percentage of my income in taxes if I work harder and make a better living for myself to support these people when they come here and sign right up for welfare.
For most the history of our country, the prevailing value was that everyone had the personal freedom to do what they wanted (wrap it up or don't, have a child or not) and accept the personal accountability to take care of it. Now Trump and his supporters are turning away from those values and instead want our country to take on the communist values that the government decides what is best for us.
Quote: TomGThis is definitely the type of stuff Trump and his supporters think it takes to Make America Great Again
Exactly.
We are $21,000,000,000,000 ($21 trillion) in debt.
We can't take care of our own poor people.
How can we take care of the rest of the world?
Build the wall. MAGA.
Quote: beachbumbabs
How about not providing links to garbage sites for your sources? Infowars:really?
Any different from Vox, the HP or Mother Jones? All garbage sites with slanted views taking advantage of their perceived stupidity of the average American voter. Both sides do it for one reason.....It works!
Quote: TomGFor most the history of our country, the prevailing value was that everyone had the personal freedom to do what they wanted (wrap it up or don't, have a child or not) and accept the personal accountability to take care of it. Now Trump and his supporters are turning away from those values and instead want our country to take on the communist values that the government decides what is best for us.
It is no longer personal responsibility when you rely on the government to provide you with food, clothing, and shelter after you use poor judgement (EG: have 7 kids while being dirt poor).
Quote: lilredroosterdon't tell me let me guess
you're a real tough guy 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐛𝐢𝐠 𝐦𝐮𝐬𝐜𝐥𝐞𝐬..........................woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Calm down. Calm down.
Strictly hetero. Not interested.
Quote: RSIt is no longer personal responsibility when you rely on the government to provide you with food, clothing, and shelter after you use poor judgement (EG: have 7 kids while being dirt poor).
The solution would be for the government to stop providing all that stuff. Build a wall around the welfare state. But Trump's entire political career has been built on turning those people into villains, so he desperately it to continue to maintain support
Quote: TankoCalm down. Calm down.
Strictly hetero. Not interested.
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Quote: RSafter you use poor judgement (EG: have 7 kids while being dirt poor).
𝐢𝐭'𝐬 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐛𝐮𝐭 𝐚 𝐬𝐮𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐬𝐨𝐦𝐞𝐰𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐢𝐧 𝐲𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐚𝐠𝐞 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐨𝐫 𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐫𝐬 𝐰𝐡𝐨 𝐬𝐮𝐟𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐝 𝐠𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭 𝐩𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐭𝐲 𝐢𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐦𝐢𝐝𝐝𝐥𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐚 𝐰𝐚𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐲𝐞𝐭 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐮𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐨 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐥𝐝𝐫𝐞𝐧
𝐢𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐡𝐚𝐝𝐧'𝐭 𝐝𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐰𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐝𝐧'𝐭 𝐛𝐞 𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐞𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐢𝐧𝐝𝐢𝐠𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐩𝐞𝐨𝐩𝐥𝐞 𝐰𝐡𝐨 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐥𝐝𝐫𝐞𝐧
Quote: lilredrooster.... but it doesn't say a single word about the legal status of the immigrants they are referring to
many U.S. employers who are U.S. citizens hire undocumented immigrants and get rich off of their labor
Another lie from the left to deflect blame from the government and vilify American employers. Illegals earn only slightly less than their legal peers. If they are doing it off the books, they're taking home more than their legal peers.
"By 2014, unauthorized immigrants, on average, earned only 3.4% less than their legal peers. -George Borjas, veteran labor economist at Harvard
Quote: lilredroostera great many, I don't what %, of the immigrants trying to come here are going through the process attempting to be legally granted asylum
They can apply for asylum in Mexico, or Canada, or other countries they enter along the way.
No reason for them to come here for asylum, if they are already in a country that is allowing them to apply for asylum.
Quote: Tanko"By 2014, unauthorized immigrants, on average, earned only 3.4% less than their legal peers. -George Borjas, veteran labor economist at Harvard
3.4% less than George Soros, or your average McDonald's apprentice? I'm thinking they aren't picking up the high wage jobs to start with.
Quote: beachbumbabsHow about not providing links to garbage sites for your sources? Infowars:really?
Local CBS Affiliate KENS5 San Antonio:
"City searches for French speakers as hundreds of Congolese asylum-seekers head to SA"
"A group of about 350 migrants from the Congo will be arriving in San Antonio in the near future."
World Health Organization: Ebola virus disease – Democratic Republic of the Congo
WHO: One in four DR Congo Ebola cases could be going undetected
"Second-worst Ebola epidemic on record 'certainly not under control', World Health Organization warns."
Is that saying that people who are in the U.S. illegally should have basic expenses like housing, food, health care etc. paid by the taxes of hard-working Americans?Quote: TomGThe solution would be for the government to stop providing all that stuff. Build a wall around the welfare state. But Trump's entire political career has been built on turning those people into villains, so he desperately it to continue to maintain support
TDS at its finest. Even the loons who comment on the HP have an issue with this decision.
Hard to believe anyone could see this as a good decision with all of CA’s other problems.
F the taxpayer should be California’s new motto.
Quote: Bozhttps://www.huffpost.com/entry/california-health-care-immigrants_n_5cfe3edee4b0aab91c08e4d9
TDS at its finest. Even the loons who comment on the HP have an issue with this decision.
Hard to believe anyone could see this as a good decision with all of CA’s other problems.
F the taxpayer should be California’s new motto.
How about not providing links to garbage sites for your sources? Huffington Post, really? Right BBB?
I would think not...Quote: MaxPenI'd imagine swarms of bees are the least of one's problems when riding a bus in Vegas.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/video-shows-woman-push-elderly-man-las-vegas-bus-he-n1005906
Quote: wellwellwellHow about not providing links to garbage sites for your sources? Huffington Post, really? Right BBB?
Actually, I appreciated that you went and linked the primary sources for your story, and gave you a thanks for it when you posted. I'm not ever clicking on Infowars for any reason.
Got anything to demonstrate the president's "communist values"?Quote: TomGFor most the history of our country, the prevailing value was that everyone had the personal freedom to do what they wanted (wrap it up or don't, have a child or not) and accept the personal accountability to take care of it. Now Trump and his supporters are turning away from those values and instead want our country to take on the communist values that the government decides what is best for us.
Quote: beachbumbabsActually, I appreciated that you went and linked the primary sources for your story, and gave you a thanks for it when you posted. I'm not ever clicking on Infowars for any reason.
Actually you thanked someone else that posted the same link but thats ok.
That Infowars article was actually a link from Drudge. It was well sourced in the body of the article so I used it. I have looked at the Infowars website one time before when the controversy was hot about Twitter and others banning them. It is really a little too far right even for me to look at regularly.
Quote: wellwellwellHow about not providing links to garbage sites for your sources? Huffington Post, really? Right BBB?
It's laughable that you'd even come close to comparing HuffPost to Infowars.
Quote: SteverinosIt's laughable that you'd even come close to comparing HuffPost to Infowars.
As Babs said she would never click on Infowars, I would never knowingly click on HP. Never.
Quote: SteverinosIt's laughable that you'd even come close to comparing HuffPost to Infowars.
National Enquirer might even be more newsworthy than Infowars. I don’t think the Enquirer was crappy enough to suggest little kids being shot was a hoax.
Quote: SteverinosIt's laughable that you'd even come close to comparing HuffPost to Infowars.
I agree
Huff post simply leans left
Infowars is extreme right wing fake news such as Sandy Hook did not happen
Quote: mcallister3200Both are extreme, but they are on different levels of delusion.
Again, they are not comparable.
That would make a good T-shirt. FTT "ask me how".Quote: Bozhttps://www.huffpost.com/entry/california-health-care-immigrants_n_5cfe3edee4b0aab91c08e4d9
TDS at its finest. Even the loons who comment on the HP have an issue with this decision.
Hard to believe anyone could see this as a good decision with all of CA’s other problems.
F the taxpayer should be California’s new motto.
It does resemble a trade deal.
Quote: SanchoPanzaGot anything to demonstrate the president's "communist values"?Quote: TomGFor most the history of our country, the prevailing value was that everyone had the personal freedom to do what they wanted (wrap it up or don't, have a child or not) and accept the personal accountability to take care of it. Now Trump and his supporters are turning away from those values and instead want our country to take on the communist values that the government decides what is best for us.
Here is a good reference: https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/30375-trumps-second-and-third-year-in-office/1121/#post723322
Sounds like he might be talking about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy -- I might be wrong that Trump would like to move in that direction, I just thought that Boz and Trump had the same liberal ideology. Boz (and others) also continue to point out how the government, with Trump as president, is giving welfare benefits to everyone who asks for them: https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/30375-trumps-second-and-third-year-in-office/1123/#post723365,
Quote: SanchoPanzaIs that saying that people who are in the U.S. illegally should have basic expenses like housing, food, health care etc. paid by the taxes of hard-working Americans?Quote: TomGThe solution would be for the government to stop providing all that stuff. Build a wall around the welfare state. But Trump's entire political career has been built on turning those people into villains, so he desperately it to continue to maintain support
I can see both side. The reason against doing it, is that it is very bad for the country. The reason for doing it is because we have a government of the people and Trump won the election and he continues to give all these welfare benefits to everyone. So until we find politicians who end our welfare state and put them in elected positions, we know it's going to continue
Quote: TomGHere is a good reference: https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/30375-trumps-second-and-third-year-in-office/1121/#post723322
Sounds like he might be talking about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy -- I might be wrong that Trump would like to move in that direction, I just thought that Boz and Trump had the same liberal ideology. Boz (and others) also continue to point out how the government, with Trump as president, is giving welfare benefits to everyone who asks for them: https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/30375-trumps-second-and-third-year-in-office/1123/#post723365,
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We don’t need any immigrants with 10 kids who are dirt poor and would just suck off the government teet.
I’m no fan of the welfare state in this country and thats obviously something we should be fixing. It’s not like Trump is just giving it out. It’s been part of the system. He inherited a ****ed up system. You can’t blame him for trying to fix the system, while you have these bat-s*** crazy liberals in the government (like AOC) who’re pushing for more social nonsense like UBI and whatnot.
Quote: RSYou can’t blame him for trying to fix the system, while you have these bat-s*** crazy liberals in the government (like AOC) who’re pushing for more social nonsense like UBI and whatnot.
"Bat-s*** crazy"? UBI polls close to 50%. Trump polls around 40%.
Quote: Steverinos"Bat-s*** crazy"? UBI polls close to 50%. Trump polls around 40%.
Hey now, Donald polls close to 50 if you ignore every single poll besides Rasmussen!
The president does not decide welfare benefits. The legislature does that.Quote: TomGI can see both side. The reason against turdoing it, is that it is very bad for the country. The reason for doing it is because we have a government of the people and Trump won the election and he continues to give all these welfare benefits to everyone. So until we find politicians who end our welfare state and put them in elected positions, we know it's going to continue
