Pick 2 To Defend You. The Rest Will Attack You.
February 16th, 2018 at 7:00:27 PM
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Quote: Face
Gimme 3 beers and I'll fight 50 eagles right now.
Have fun with that. If I knew how to round up 50 eagles I would get some action on that.
February 16th, 2018 at 7:04:01 PM
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I'll supply a six pack if I can have the film rights.
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February 16th, 2018 at 7:13:15 PM
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Snuff films are illegal.
February 17th, 2018 at 6:37:44 AM
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I don't know if this has been asked/discussed yet...
Once the man is killed by the eagles, will the eagles bring me the gun, or can I go retrieve it? If that is the case, then I think there is a decent chance to win this thing depending on how much ammo the gun has.
Once the man is killed by the eagles, will the eagles bring me the gun, or can I go retrieve it? If that is the case, then I think there is a decent chance to win this thing depending on how much ammo the gun has.
February 17th, 2018 at 9:14:36 AM
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Quote: FinsRuleI don't know if this has been asked/discussed yet...
Once the man is killed by the eagles, will the eagles bring me the gun, or can I go retrieve it? If that is the case, then I think there is a decent chance to win this thing depending on how much ammo the gun has.
Oh my God! Good point that no one else mentioned! Kudos! :D Speaking of Kudos, I haven't seen that Kudos granola bar in like 15 years!
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February 17th, 2018 at 4:05:14 PM
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Quote: gordonm888After writing the above "guide" and thinking about this problem as if it were a video game I arrived at the following answer
Didn't you say before that man was a good and quick shot. If you pick the animals in your spoiler answer, which I won't say because you hid them, I think the man could get off a clean shot at your before your attackers reached him. Thus, my idea of picking the bears and get one to take a bullet for you.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 17th, 2018 at 4:07:07 PM
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Quote: FinsRuleOnce the man is killed by the eagles, will the eagles bring me the gun, or can I go retrieve it? If that is the case, then I think there is a decent chance to win this thing depending on how much ammo the gun has.
Good question. I would think an eagle is not strong enough to lift the rifle, or even two eagles. However, I could easily buy them defending it until you got there.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 17th, 2018 at 4:30:57 PM
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Quote: WizardGood question. I would think an eagle is not strong enough to lift the rifle, or even two eagles. However, I could easily buy them defending it until you got there.
That particular eagle can lift juvenile deer, so we're talking low tens of pounds. My 20's era, 6' long Mosin-Nagant 91/30 fully loaded with affixed bayonet runs about 9.4. And I could not imagine another common rifle weighing an ounce more. Thing's a monolith.
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February 17th, 2018 at 7:08:15 PM
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Quote: FaceThat particular eagle can lift juvenile deer, so we're talking low tens of pounds. My 20's era, 6' long Mosin-Nagant 91/30 fully loaded with affixed bayonet runs about 9.4. And I could not imagine another common rifle weighing an ounce more. Thing's a monolith.
I looked into this and the article EAGLES CARRY HOW MUCH WEIGHT? says an eagle was observed carrying a 12-pound branch. So, I admit I was wrong. Having an eagle grab the gun now seems like a darn good idea.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 17th, 2018 at 8:13:18 PM
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Quote: MaxPenHave fun with that. If I knew how to round up 50 eagles I would get some action on that.
Dont feel bad.. Brady and the Patriots couldnt figure that out either.
'Winners hit n run... Losers stick around'
February 18th, 2018 at 12:20:43 AM
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I think there is too much big game to think even an expert can hold them off. You know what happens when you shoot someone in the head, they shoot you in the head before they die sometimes. I imagine the game as you in center, all else outside coming in, not two sides in box. Could be either.
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February 18th, 2018 at 8:45:40 AM
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The pic of the guy with the gun is a trap. He won’t be of much help, or much danger if he’s coming at you. From various elements in the pic, he probably doesn’t know how to use the rifle, which looks to be a single shot Remington rolling block rifle
His lean back stance is how an inexperienced shooter shoots a rifle, and he could be flat on his back after the shot. Then look at how he’s aiming the rifle. The sights are well above his eyes, which means he’s shooting blind. He won’t be hitting anything.
His lean back stance is how an inexperienced shooter shoots a rifle, and he could be flat on his back after the shot. Then look at how he’s aiming the rifle. The sights are well above his eyes, which means he’s shooting blind. He won’t be hitting anything.
February 18th, 2018 at 9:18:38 AM
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Without cover and/or concealment, you are dead. If you can't get out of reach of the gators, you are dead. If the eagles can swoop at you and your only defense is shooting them, you are dead. In fact, if it's you in the middle of an open field, with only any two to defend you, you are already dead.
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February 18th, 2018 at 10:00:02 AM
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Quote: billryanWithout cover and/or concealment, you are dead. If you can't get out of reach of the gators, you are dead. If the eagles can swoop at you and your only defense is shooting them, you are dead. In fact, if it's you in the middle of an open field, with only any two to defend you, you are already dead.
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February 18th, 2018 at 10:40:12 AM
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Quote: WizardDidn't you say before that man was a good and quick shot. If you pick the animals in your spoiler answer, which I won't say because you hid them, I think the man could get off a clean shot at your before your attackers reached him. Thus, my idea of picking the bears and get one to take a bullet for you.
One of the things that occurred to me, and which I did not include in my previous post, is that if large animals are rushing you (and being delayed and defeated by your forces) it will create a "broken field" or a partial shield that will reduce the chance that a long-range rifle shot will be successful. Obviously strategies like moving rapidly and erratically and trying to keep large attacking animals between you and the rifleman will increase your chances of living until your forces attack the rifleman.
Probably no strategy is 100% assured of success - this is war, after all.
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February 18th, 2018 at 11:01:50 AM
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Quote: MaxPenQuitters never win.
Sometimes you examine the situation and decide Captain Danjou was right.
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February 18th, 2018 at 11:21:35 AM
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Quote: billryanSometimes you examine the situation and decide Captain Danjou was right.
Those French people have a history of running from battle.😀
Imagine if there were conclusions drawn by our military in that manner about taking the beaches of Normandy.
February 18th, 2018 at 1:19:22 PM
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The correct answer is easy. No 2 will allow you to survive against the other 7. Unless there is other information that you can make up (escape vehicle, lockable bunker, etc.)
February 18th, 2018 at 1:52:41 PM
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Quote: SOOPOOThe correct answer is easy. No 2 will allow you to survive against the other 7. Unless there is other information that you can make up (escape vehicle, lockable bunker, etc.)
I disagree, I think the rats can blind all the attackers.
February 18th, 2018 at 2:16:33 PM
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I pick the bulls and the bears. With both of them on my side, I can never lose!
'Winners hit n run... Losers stick around'
February 18th, 2018 at 5:34:28 PM
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...If the fight is at Soldier Field or the United Center.Quote: WatchMeWinI pick the bulls and the bears. With both of them on my side, I can never lose!
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February 18th, 2018 at 5:44:25 PM
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Quote: Ayecarumba...If the fight is at Soldier Field or the United Center.
Lol... i was actually alluding to the stock market.
If it were a play on the football and basketball in Chicago, then I'd be really f%=!!
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February 18th, 2018 at 6:08:49 PM
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Quote: WatchMeWinLol... i was actually alluding to the stock market.
If it were a play on the football and basketball in Chicago, then I'd be really f%=!!
I must admit that went right over my head. Well played.
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February 18th, 2018 at 11:50:27 PM
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People, people, it's been mentioned that the picture of the "Bulls" are actually COWS. Cows are docile and subservient and wouldn't be any help in a survival choice.
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February 18th, 2018 at 11:51:52 PM
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Quote: NathanPeople, people, it's been mentioned that the picture of the "Bulls" are actually COWS. Cows are docile and subservient and wouldn't be any help in a survival choice.
Evidently, hers too.
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February 19th, 2018 at 4:36:38 PM
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I propose the following further assumptions:
- You have a Tarzan-like ability to manipulate the animals on your team to attempt any mission requested.
- Animals on your team will attempt to perform mission to the best of their ability. Ordinary abilities for that animal are assumed.
- The animals against you will have the same kind of single-minded mission to kill you.
- The two groups will start in a Braveheart-like flat terrain, about 50 meters apart to start.
- Outside of this battle arena is a forest, eventually leading to safety, shall we say five miles away. Animals can give chase in the forest.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 19th, 2018 at 5:17:15 PM
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So alligators are just hanging out on dry land?Quote: WizardI propose the following further assumptions:
- You have a Tarzan-like ability to manipulate the animals on your team to attempt any mission requested.
- Animals on your team will attempt to perform mission to the best of their ability. Ordinary abilities for that animal are assumed.
- The animals against you will have the same kind of single-minded mission to kill you.
- The two groups will start in a Braveheart-like flat terrain, about 50 meters apart to start.
- Outside of this battle arena is a forest, eventually leading to safety, shall we say five miles away. Animals can give chase in the forest.
It makes no sense to include alligators if water isn't available.
How about we make it so the eagles have clipped wings.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
February 19th, 2018 at 6:19:29 PM
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Quote: WizardI propose the following further assumptions:
- You have a Tarzan-like ability to manipulate the animals on your team to attempt any mission requested.
- Animals on your team will attempt to perform mission to the best of their ability. Ordinary abilities for that animal are assumed.
- The animals against you will have the same kind of single-minded mission to kill you.
- The two groups will start in a Braveheart-like flat terrain, about 50 meters apart to start.
- Outside of this battle arena is a forest, eventually leading to safety, shall we say five miles away. Animals can give chase in the forest.
You so badly want to ride to safety on the back of a grizzly.😜
February 19th, 2018 at 6:44:50 PM
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Quote: MaxPenYou so badly want to ride to safety on the back of a grizzly.😜
Absolutely. It always helps to alter the rules to improve your chances.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 19th, 2018 at 6:49:40 PM
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It would depend on location. But, I would have to say X1 and X5. Assuming the rifle has a reasonable amount of ammo and the shooter is skilled, the shooter would take out the fast animals while the 5 gorillas form a protective ring and fend off anything that gets close.
Also, it depends on the terrain, if there are climable trees nearby the gorillas, the shooter and myself could climb into a tree, and that would mitigate a lot of the enemies from approaching us. The Gorillas could pound the bears as they attempt to climb, and the Birds could be slowly picked off.
Also, it depends on the terrain, if there are climable trees nearby the gorillas, the shooter and myself could climb into a tree, and that would mitigate a lot of the enemies from approaching us. The Gorillas could pound the bears as they attempt to climb, and the Birds could be slowly picked off.
February 20th, 2018 at 2:23:24 AM
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Quote: WizardI propose the following further assumptions:
- You have a Tarzan-like ability to manipulate the animals on your team to attempt any mission requested.
- Animals on your team will attempt to perform mission to the best of their ability. Ordinary abilities for that animal are assumed.
- The animals against you will have the same kind of single-minded mission to kill you.
- The two groups will start in a Braveheart-like flat terrain, about 50 meters apart to start.
- Outside of this battle arena is a forest, eventually leading to safety, shall we say five miles away. Animals can give chase in the forest.
At about 50 YARDS apart, in sort of a football setup, I might go rats/bears rather than rats/eagles. This is a tough set up because the other animals can just blitz you and the man is going to be firing away for about a minute before dying a horrible rat death (picking the man is still terrible, though). I think these big animals, running full speed, might be hard for the rats to latch on to. So you will need a big animal to take out the other bigs who break through the rat wall.
If you are going big animal, I think Face showed bears are the only choice. I googled gorlilla fights as Romes suggested and was unimpressed. Bears would destroy gorillas, easily.
Assuming you can ride an animal and retreat, bears are also the best option, though I think riding a bear at even half speed might be extremely difficult. If I was just going to make a run for it, I might go eagles/bears. The eagles take the man and harass the other animals and I make the bear escape.
Your best bet might be to sprint along with the bears until you are tired, then ride them. Because, as I said, I don't think you'll hang on when they are doing 30mph. So your max sprint speed should actually be higher than your max bear riding speed.
This is the only way to "defeat" the rats. If you can just run away from them. But if you cannot run away, nothing is stopping a few hundred of them, at least, from getting to you. Not sure how fast they are or how much stamina they have. But I think both you and the bear could out run them initially. The eagles are going to be a bitch, though.
Maybe hiding in a tree would help against rats. It seems like rats are pretty good at climbing. However, if I can hide in a tree, now I want the rats on my side even more. If the other animals are blitzing me, they can never slow down or stop. So if I can make use of natural barriers, the rats get stronger.
Basically, depending on the set up it is def. rats/bears/eagles in some combination. Unless it's something weird like you can swim to a little island and be surrounded by gators. Then axel's strategy of using the gators to protect him comes into play. He can then chose the man, who will be trapped on the island, and attempt to disarm him and force himself upon him.
February 20th, 2018 at 9:15:55 AM
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It would be a challenge for the bears to keep up even a trot for an extended time. They are not built for long hauls at full speed.
Why swim to the island? Ride the crocs like a stand up paddleboard!
Why swim to the island? Ride the crocs like a stand up paddleboard!
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February 20th, 2018 at 11:17:21 AM
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The presumed existence of a safe haven completely alters the problem we have been discussing.
Why not have a fort that is 5 miles away, filled with French legionnaires with rifles, as in colonial Africa.
Or an underground bunker, Cold-war style, that is 100 yards away.
Or put a weapons cache equidistant from the two teams, a la The Hunger Games?
These are all interesting ideas -but they are distinct variants of the original problem that was posed.
Why not have a fort that is 5 miles away, filled with French legionnaires with rifles, as in colonial Africa.
Or an underground bunker, Cold-war style, that is 100 yards away.
Or put a weapons cache equidistant from the two teams, a la The Hunger Games?
These are all interesting ideas -but they are distinct variants of the original problem that was posed.
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February 20th, 2018 at 11:29:05 AM
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Are people really so afraid of birds, they assume birds are unbeatable? I think a bird will give up an attack if threatened, hoping to return when stealth. Bark at them and raise a fist, they'll pull up.
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February 20th, 2018 at 11:51:00 AM
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Quote: onenickelmiracleAre people really so afraid of birds, they assume birds are unbeatable? I think a bird will give up an attack if threatened, hoping to return when stealth. Bark at them and raise a fist, they'll pull up.
Tell a gorilla that he and his buddies they have to fight and kill for you and I think he'll tell you to pound sand.
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February 20th, 2018 at 1:55:16 PM
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My initial thought told me to go with the eagles and rats. Nothing has changed.😀
February 20th, 2018 at 2:36:50 PM
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Quote: MaxPenMy initial thought told me to go with the eagles and rats. Nothing has changed.😀
Wouldn't the rats be scared of "working" with a natural predator like the eagles?
February 20th, 2018 at 2:56:56 PM
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Quote: KeeneoneWouldn't the rats be scared of "working" with a natural predator like the eagles?
Awesome synergies occur when predators and prey unite.😀
February 20th, 2018 at 3:02:42 PM
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So, can the eagles drop talon-fuls of rats onto the attackers from above?
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February 20th, 2018 at 3:23:22 PM
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Dropping two or more rats from 100 feet up would have a nasty effect on the other animals
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February 20th, 2018 at 4:35:54 PM
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Quote: onenickelmiracleAre people really so afraid of birds, they assume birds are unbeatable? I think a bird will give up an attack if threatened, hoping to return when stealth. Bark at them and raise a fist, they'll pull up.
When I was a kid, a bird dooked on my pizza at Sea World. I was so hungry that I would have eaten around it but couldn't tell the difference between the white bird dung and the white cheese on the pizza. I've been terrified of birds ever since.
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February 20th, 2018 at 5:25:29 PM
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Someone needs to turn this into a video game with different landscapes and scenarios.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
February 20th, 2018 at 7:32:23 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfSomeone needs to turn this into a video game with different landscapes and scenarios.
Survive level 1 and you get two flamethrowers for the gorillas.
Level 4 allows the lions to form a giant robot.
At level 8, the eagles go supersonic.
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February 21st, 2018 at 1:44:03 AM
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Sorry for the trauma, but that was hilarious.Quote: RogerKintWhen I was a kid, a bird dooked on my pizza at Sea World. I was so hungry that I would have eaten around it but couldn't tell the difference between the white bird dung and the white cheese on the pizza. I've been terrified of birds ever since.
The gulls are very aggressive there. I nearly throttled one that grabbed a fish from my toddler’s hand when she was feeding the seals, but there were a bunch of people watching. Flying rats is what they are.
Back to the scenario... Wolves can grab swooping birds out of the air. The open field allows no safe landing zone for the birds to peck at the rats in their talons.. They can’t stay aloft forever, so when they land exhausted, the rats will overwhelm them.
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March 2nd, 2018 at 7:23:46 PM
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Not that tigers are involved, but I found this:
https://nypost.com/2018/03/02/tiger-and-bear-fight-and-the-winner-is/amp/
https://nypost.com/2018/03/02/tiger-and-bear-fight-and-the-winner-is/amp/
March 3rd, 2018 at 12:19:16 AM
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I am changing my vote. I chose the human. Hopefully I can pick our noble leader Donny Jay Trump.
Anyone who would willingly take on a killer with an assault rifle unarmed has a place on my team.
Anyone who would willingly take on a killer with an assault rifle unarmed has a place on my team.
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