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Rigondeaux
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September 11th, 2019 at 3:51:24 PM permalink
Even if that's true, there are other factors like satiation.

Anyway, this was an interesting video. First off, this is two people so obviously it doesn't prove anything. Second off, I have seen some cool people interviewed on this channel, but also some whackos, so I am skeptical of them, but that's true of any v/blogger. Particularly if they sell stuff, as these people do.

However, fasting keto people get full body scans from an unbiased source. The results are striking.

Cliffs: The doctor says the lady is off the charts healthy, at least in terms of the things he can see in the scan such as muscle, fat and bone marrow. Her face doesn't look great IMO. She actually says herself that she's not totally happy with her looks. She feels great, but doesn't like looking less feminine due to being so lean and muscular.

Not a problem for us guys, obviously.

gamerfreak
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October 1st, 2019 at 4:07:29 PM permalink
I started making an effort to lose weight about a month ago, and I am down a solid 10 lbs.

The results are starting to become visible, especially around my face/neck., and my clothes feel a bit looser. And for years I suffered from terrible indigestion nearly every day, that has gone away almost completely.

I am also pooping significantly less, and those poops are far less violent, and far less offensive to anyone within nose-shot


I am not against any specific kind of low carb diet, keto, etc. I am just going to share what has seemed to be working so far for me. Personally, my failure rate for diets like keto that eliminate entire food groups have led to 100% failure. I am weak human and lack discipline in nearly every area of my life, and I need to have some leeway to indulge in pizza, burgers, sweets, etc when the craving arises.

So, I am doing straight up calorie restriction, combined with what I guess could be considered intermittent fasting, but I just call it skipping breakfast.

I'm using the app MyFitnessPal to track everything I eat. You enter your weight, activity level, and weight loss goal, and it calculates how many calories you should be consuming each day. For me, starting at 205lbs, low activity, with a loss goal of 1lb/week, my calorie target is 1800kcal/day.

Most of what I am eating is still absolute garbage. Fast food nearly every day, mostly for convenience sake. But it's measured amounts of garbage. Previously at Chik-Fil-A I would get a fried chicken sandwich, fries, a large sweet tea, and slather that b*tch with like 4 packets of mayo. Now that I am actually paying attention to and tracking what I eat, I realize how insane that was - nearly 1600 calories in one sitting. Now I order a grilled chicken sandwich, 1 mayo, diet coke, and a side salad with italian dressing - around 650 calories. It's entirely possible to eat a reasonable amount of calories at nearly any fast food restaurant.

At some point I want to improve the types of food I am eating, and add in some exercise. But for now, my goal is calorie restriction and nothing else.

My meal schedule is roughly the following:
Breakfast - Nothing
11:00 AM Lunch - Around 600-800 kcal
3:00 PM Snack - 100-200kcal and only if I am hungry, and ate a lower calorie lunch
7:00 PM Dinner - 1000-1200kcal

If I go over by 100-200kcal in a day, I don't beat myself up over it. If I go to a party over the weekend, have some beers, and go way over my 1800kcal limit, it's not a big deal as long as that doesn't happen more than once a week. It's a marathon, not a sprint. My goal is to lose around 40lbs by this time next year.

With that schedule, I really only find myself being hungry right before a meal, and I don't have any cravings because no food is off the table. Admittingly, adderall and nicotine gum help with that a bit. Which I am not recommending, both are highly addictive.

Personally, I've never been able to get hooked on anything except for laziness, soda, and processed melted cheese on carbs. I've been taking adderall and chewing nicotine gum for years, and regularly go cold turkey for a few weeks with no withdrawal. I've never smoked, the gum is just because nicotine just feels fantastic. Similar to caffeine but way better. I know it's a weird habit.

Anyway, that's where I am at. I'll post updates in this thread as I continue. We didn't need another weight loss thread, and I didn't want to hijack PG's failure ;)
Rigondeaux
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October 1st, 2019 at 5:57:29 PM permalink
Cool man. Get er dun.

The main thing to remember is that all such things are long processes with many instances of 2 steps forward, 1 step back.

Eventually, you will make more changes, such as starting to eat better food. But very few people just go from an unhealthy lifestyle to being triathletes who live off carrot juice. As you make one adjustment and see the results, you'll want to make more.

Fast food isn't really as convenient as you allow yourself to believe. I'm really into EvenBob's roasts now. You put foil in a pan. You throw some random crap in the pan. You put it in the oven. You eat it out of the pan, if you like. You throw the foil away. And it is really, really good. Crockpots are good too. You can make several meals with almost no effort. That's convenient.

However, If skipping breakfast is pretty easy for you, I'd build on that and go more into IF as your next step.
gamerfreak
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October 1st, 2019 at 6:08:53 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

Fast food isn't really as convenient as you allow yourself to believe. I'm really into EvenBob's roasts now. You put foil in a pan. You throw some random crap in the pan. You put it in the oven. You eat it out of the pan, if you like. You throw the foil away. And it is really, really good. Crockpots are good too. You can make several meals with almost no effort. That's convenient.


Well, fast food and takeout isnít 100% of my diet. I cook pretty much every night. I do Roasts, Instant Pot, slower cooker, lots of grilling etc.

But unfortunately I am currently a office drone and fast food is my lunchtime crux.

For whatever reason, I have been adverse to brown bag lunch/leftovers my whole life, but maybe I can get over that.
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October 1st, 2019 at 6:32:20 PM permalink
I am very fortunate. Not only have I never struggled with weight, I think I am mentally tough. If I set my mind to something I can usually do it.

Before my back surgery the doctor said he wouldn't do it unless I quit smoking. I did not have a cigarette for the five weeks before the surgery and I didn't use any substitutes. It was easy for me, I never had any craving. It works the same for me with eating. If I tell myself to lose 10 pounds I won't eat anything until I accomplish it.

I really can't empathize with people who struggle.
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Rigondeaux
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October 1st, 2019 at 6:39:23 PM permalink
IDK if you guys got the Hispanic rotisserie chicken places like El Pollo Loco or Inca Express. That's really good. Especially if they have the aji sauce.

There are a lot of Asian dishes. Beef and broccoli, Kung pao, etc. Just avoid the fried and sugary ones.

You can also just break off a bit more money and eat some better take out. You'll get it back when you don't have to hire a door pusher througher in the future.

Some places, like Capriatis (sub shop) have really good salads with a lot of meat and cheese. Soups can be fine as well. A nice bowl of chili.

Even if you are not on keto, I'd avoid things with buns and white bread. And sugar in general, as well as fried foods.
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October 7th, 2019 at 5:21:32 PM permalink
This scanning tech is incredible. No more guessing, you get to stare at your insides. I believe it will help drive a revolution in nutrition. Meds will fall off as root causes are attacked via corrected nutrition.
Rigondeaux
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October 13th, 2019 at 2:34:37 PM permalink
This isn't ground breaking. More a confirmation of conventional wisdom.

Once you are in half decent shape, do harder exercises with fewer reps. I had kind of plateaued with push ups, for example. I started doing diamond push ups.

I can't do one armed, but I can put most of my weight on one arm.

Started seeing better results pretty quickly. I actually find it easier/less daunting to do a few hard reps.
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October 13th, 2019 at 5:17:31 PM permalink
I have done weight loss through excercise alone and excercise/diet.

I tried to find the most ROI per time, because we can't live like sheperds anymore walking all day. I was a supervisor on call during this period.

Routine:
I walk an inclined treadmill for 20-30 minutes. I'd choose the highest intensity that I can breathe through my nose. Which is more accurate than a heart rate monitor. Body burns more fat exercising during the morning. I drink coffee before I exercise. I also exercise during the evening to keep metabolism going. The aerobic exercise will also curb sweets and appetite in general.

For upper body, I do 20 reps of millitary dumbbell press, 20 bent dumbell rowing, 20 sissor leg rasies, 20 skydivers. It seem to have weight loss and strength gain. It was the only time in my life, I began to see a six pack. But i did this when I was monitoring my diet with fitness pal app, so I lost 55 pounds in one year.

If you find a hobby like mountain biking, it is easier to lose weight.
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DRich
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October 14th, 2019 at 7:30:06 AM permalink
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If you find a hobby like mountain biking, it is easier to lose weight.



I have no exercised in 30 years but I would definitely try some downhill mountain biking.
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