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September 26th, 2017 at 10:27:01 AM permalink
We've had several discussions on this and a few people are very knowledgeable. Seems a shame to have the wisdom lost to the sands of miscellaneous discussion.

I have a question to get the ball rolling. Dried fruit: WTF?

A lot of dried fruit is as good or better than most candy. Top of the line dates are fantastic. Dried pineapples can actually be too sweet for me. And I could eat nothing but dried ginger for the rest of my days.

Are these good, bad, kind of bad but better than regular sweets, or neutral? I've googled some but can't get a very good answer.

Also, progress reports from the battles of the bulge? GWAE?
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September 26th, 2017 at 12:25:26 PM permalink
Since you asked about dietary progress, I'm well into a protracted weight loss campaign.
After moving to Vegas, I got into some awful eating habits and had ballooned up to 417 at my last physical. Even worse, my cholesterol, and blood sugars levels were bad.
I started drinking meal replacement shakes and doing a bit of exercise and got down under 400.
Three weeks ago, I signed up for Nutrisystem, and today is day 14 of the 60 days I committed to. Weighed 384 this morning.
I still have a long way to go. I was 235 in college and 265 when I left the army. In 1999, I was 300 and I'm expecting to be there again twenty years later.
The meals with Nutrisystem are tiny, but you eat six times a day, roughly every two and a half hours apart. They also allow four outside meals a week- today's lunch is two grilled Del Taco chicken tacos and handful of grapes.
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September 26th, 2017 at 1:04:59 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

I have a question to get the ball rolling. Dried fruit: WTF?

A lot of dried fruit is as good or better than most candy. Top of the line dates are fantastic. Dried pineapples can actually be too sweet for me. And I could eat nothing but dried ginger for the rest of my days.

Are these good, bad, kind of bad but better than regular sweets, or neutral? I've googled some but can't get a very good answer.



This link says dried fruit is worse than candy.

https://www.wellandgood.com/good-food/why-dried-fruit-is-not-a-healthy-snack/
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September 26th, 2017 at 1:09:09 PM permalink
A fair amount of the guys that are at my mma gym are personal trainers / former wrestlers / etc. I've picked up so much from them over the years I know how to cut a lot of weight both the healthy, and unhealthy way.

Dried fruit can be really good (if you buy the right kinds) but most of the time it's really bad for you. It all comes down to the brand/packaging/etc. You'll need to see if it's been blasted with preservatives... such as tons and tons of salt. When in doubt, READ the labels and you'll get a much better idea of what's better/worse for you to put in your body. Same goes for "vitamin water" and other "sports drinks" because the VAST majority of them are actually complete s**t for your body.

General Formula:

1) Carbs in the morning (your body needs them like a car needs gasoline).
2) Carb/Protein snack about an hour before your workout.
3) Work out with less weight and more reps at first, to build lean muscle instead of bulk. Lean muscle is what burns through fat.
4) Protein after your workout (meat is usually a good post-workout meal).
5) Don't eat a couple hours before you go to bed.
6) Stop snacking.
7) Look up your ideal calorie burn. This comes with some discrepancy, but for your age, height, weight, and level of fitness you should have an ideal caloric intake for cutting weight, maintaining weight, and gaining weight. For example, to maintain my weight I can take in around 2,000 calories per day... pending if I workout that day or not. To cut weight my ideal caloric input is about 1450 calories. Some people think "if I take in less then I'll lose more weight." That is WRONG. If you take in too few calories then your body will think you're starving and go in to starvation mode where you'll burn less calories and NOT lose weight because your body thinks it needs to save those calories.
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September 26th, 2017 at 1:16:05 PM permalink
Doesn't your point 6 contradict points 2 and 4?
Nutrisystem says to snack three times a day, halfway between breakfast and lunch, then halfway between lunch and dinner and then again 3 hours after dinner.
A good snack for them is two ounces of low salt meat or three ounces of shrimp or crab meat.
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September 26th, 2017 at 1:39:07 PM permalink
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This link says dried fruit is worse than candy.

https://www.wellandgood.com/good-food/why-dried-fruit-is-not-a-healthy-snack/



That "study" seems spurious, and I had to dig pretty deep to find that proper adjective. "A cup of cranberries has 4g sugar while a cup of dried crans has 70g" (or whatever). I mean.... duh? You took all the water out. That means more stuff can fit in. If I consume 8oz of Koolaid vs 8oz of Koolaid powder, yeah, I'd expect a pretty huge sugar spike. Now, if you told me ONE cranberry has X and ONE DRIED cran had X+, then there's something there. And I'd be a bit curious. Alas, my botany lessons are just about all gone, and I don't recall anything about fruit curing.

A huge +1 to Romes' post. Dry goods aside, food is supposed to rot. If it doesn't, then there's something in it that's not supposed to be, usually salt or ascorbic acid, but sometimes worse. Food comes from the ground, not the lab.

I also agree with Romes' packaging fears. There's a reason we crave salts and fats and sugars. It tastes good because there's a biological imperative behind it. Under our fancy garb and civilized society, we're still animals with drives to stock up for the lean times. We "crave" salt and fat and sugar. We are "rewarded" chemically for consuming them. If you remove them, you no longer have a desire to consume that product. That's bad for business, so they've gotta replace it with something. Low fat? Add sugar. No sugar? Add salt. "Health food" is in many ways one big con. Skip the magic and go old school. No microwaves, no instant, no ready made. Peel your meat, unwrap your veggies, and cook real food.

Other than eating food instead of chemicals, my only other advice is simple portion control. Jesus, but people eat a lot.

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September 26th, 2017 at 2:09:07 PM permalink
Eating more healthy fats and less carbs is the new healthy eating formula.
Eat real butter, drink whole milk,eat lots of eggs yolks included.
You can Google and find out more.
The old food pyramid was seriously flawed.
Sugar is the big killer along with inactivity.
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April 7th, 2018 at 1:59:04 PM permalink
I've gone keto to get off that stubborn last few pounds.

My belt is looser after a few days. I'm told by youtube videos that this is mostly water weight but also that this is very good because I am reducing inflamation througout my body. You're supposed to lose some stuff like bloating of the face pretty quickly.

I don't know about long term. They say even people who just eat butter and bugers and stuff do well but I'm afraid that is a strain on you organs. I'm also skeptical about eating little to no fruit.

Anyway, this guy's videos seem solid. Even if you don't do keto the part about the adaptability of the palate and not eating like a child is good.

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April 7th, 2018 at 2:53:48 PM permalink
The diet/fitness/weight loss industries try to make eating too complicated so they can make a quick buck.

Just eat healthy, minimally or non-processed foods at or just below your daily caloric requirements. There's no "secret combination" of foods you have to eat (or not eat) to be healthy or in shape like all these fad diets would have you believe.

If you see something that's "The ________ Diet" it's just somebody trying to make money.
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April 7th, 2018 at 2:59:33 PM permalink
The ketogenic diet is for people who NEED to be on it. (grossly obese, diabetic, gut infections, etc.).
Otherwise, just continue with good nutrition and exercise.
The exercise is the hard part; changing your food habits come fairly easily.

Lables: Hah. How many words for sugar can those label-writers come up with? I looked fairly recently at labels for almond milk and was astounded when I actually found one brand that was not chock full of sugar. Same thing with coconut water.

Most of us know that "made with active yogurt cultures" is a code phrase for "they are dead now".
I remember when PAM spray was introduced as fat free and fools actually believed it. (Average serving was 54 grams of fat). Now the company maintains the myth by issuing "historical Label" packages.

Just in case you think people have wised up about food and labels: On April Fool's Day, Siggi's yogurt, a maker of Scandinavian yogurt in upstate NY, issued a press release about its newest flavor: Fermented Shark. And people actually fell for it. For those unaware, sharks do not urinate, they absorb it into their flesh. So if you take shark and then ferment it you get something that smells so bad its brought to your table in a sealed container. Tourists in Iceland often eat it on a dare and are awarded a badge. Admitedly though, it is very healthful, though I sure won't ever eat it.
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April 7th, 2018 at 3:03:32 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

I've gone keto to get off that stubborn last few pounds.

My belt is looser after a few days. I'm told by youtube videos that this is mostly water weight but also that this is very good because I am reducing inflamation througout my body. You're supposed to lose some stuff like bloating of the face pretty quickly.

I don't know about long term. They say even people who just eat butter and bugers and stuff do well but I'm afraid that is a strain on you organs. I'm also skeptical about eating little to no fruit.

Anyway, this guy's videos seem solid. Even if you don't do keto the part about the adaptability of the palate and not eating like a child is good.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0O_VYcsIk8
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April 7th, 2018 at 3:12:52 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

The diet/fitness/weight loss industries try to make eating too complicated so they can make a quick buck.

Just eat healthy, minimally or non-processed foods at or just below your daily caloric requirements. There's no "secret combination" of foods you have to eat (or not eat) to be healthy or in shape like all these fad diets would have you believe.

If you see something that's "The ________ Diet" it's just somebody trying to make money.



I tend to agree up to a point. I'm sure a lot of the benefits of keto or anything similar are that people stop eating very bad foods. However, i wouldn't say thats a bad thing. If going on the _____ diet is the hook that gets you to stop eating Pringles with every meal and some guy makes a buck, win/win.

However, it seems quite reasonable to me that certain foods and certain combinations of foods are better than others. Maybe much more so.

Pretty recently, i think most people believed breakfast cereal was good for you and eggs were bad for you. It seems like the opposite is true. This is worth knowing.

Also certain diets or approaches might click for different people. I found that the "fad" of intermittent fasting worked really well for me.
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April 7th, 2018 at 3:27:46 PM permalink
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Fermented Shark. And people actually fell for it. For those unaware, sharks do not urinate, they absorb it into their flesh. So if you take shark and then ferment it you get something that smells so bad its brought to your table in a sealed container. Tourists in Iceland often eat it on a dare and are awarded a badge.



I tried it. They didn't give me a badge. We went to a place where they make it. They had sharks hanging outside, until they rotted to a certain degree. Then they buried them for a while to continue the rotting process. They served samples on a little Ritz cracker. It tasted like fishy fish, if you know what I mean. I asked if anyone ever complained that their portion wasn't rotten enough. Hakarl is what it was called I'm glad I tried it, but didn't buy any extra from the gift shop
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April 7th, 2018 at 3:54:08 PM permalink
People cant go more than 8 hours their whole life without putting something in their mouth and then everyone wonders why theyre overweight and are on 3+ forms of medication. People need to rely on doctors and the scam that is health insurance. Health insurance is NOT health ASSURANCE. Diets dont work. If you go 'on' a diet, youre eventually going to go 'off' the diet. What people need are lifestyle changes. Fasting is the answer kids.

Also i laugh at all the people who go to the gym to lose weight. If youre going to the gym for something superficial such as losing weight, you wont last very long and youll just end up quitting. To last in the gym long term, you gotta go for something bigger than that. You gotta go because you truly 'enjoy' being there. Its gotta be something 'spiritual' rather than superficial.

Sigh, if only people actually listened to me, the world will be better off in so many different ways.
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April 7th, 2018 at 4:56:10 PM permalink
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People cant go more than 8 hours their whole life without putting something in their mouth and then everyone wonders why theyre overweight and are on 3+ forms of medication. People need to rely on doctors and the scam that is health insurance. Health insurance is NOT health ASSURANCE. Diets dont work. If you go 'on' a diet, youre eventually going to go 'off' the diet. What people need are lifestyle changes. Fasting is the answer kids.

Also i laugh at all the people who go to the gym to lose weight. If youre going to the gym for something superficial such as losing weight, you wont last very long and youll just end up quitting. To last in the gym long term, you gotta go for something bigger than that. You gotta go because you truly 'enjoy' being there. Its gotta be something 'spiritual' rather than superficial.

Sigh, if only people actually listened to me, the world will be better off in so many different ways.


Agree with the bolded.

It all comes down to the fact you have to change the things you do long term, not just short term. Sure, you can go on some crap diet right now and go to the gym to lose weight, but once you stop doing that, you'll just balloon right back up. Even worse, is when you're on a diet that sucks and you're just waiting out the last few days so you can stuff your face full of food. It's like an alcoholic who can't wait until Friday night to get drunk....even though it kinda seems "under control", the problem still exists and may be worse for you overall.
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April 7th, 2018 at 5:28:09 PM permalink
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Pretty recently, i think most people believed breakfast cereal was good for you and eggs were bad for you.

Nope. Only the idiots who believe nonsense and don't look at the money behind the "expert advice". The food pyramid has always been too political to be useful and the sugar industry has been far handy with bribe money.

Intermittent fasting was how many Americans used to live. You killed something, you ate it; then hunted again after a day or two of rest. Food was plentiful in certain seasons but transitions periods required reduced caloric intake.

Gyms? The greatest profit center is usually the snack bar.
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April 7th, 2018 at 6:24:59 PM permalink
I lost like 30 pounds eating ice cream before. Send me $69.99 and I'll tell you know. Doctors HATE my health tips!
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April 8th, 2018 at 1:42:50 AM permalink
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I lost like 30 pounds eating ice cream before. Send me $69.99 and I'll tell you know. Doctors HATE my health tips!

Heck, I'm not proud. Send me $6.99 and I'll give you all my dietary tips on my frequent ingestion of putricene, cadaverine, spermicine and spermidine. I'll even throw in for free one of my pamphlets on the immense pleasure that can be obtained by nibbling on the sex organs of a fungus while ingesting the exact same ingredient that a female skunk uses when it feels threatened by an attacker. I used to do that quite a lot but now my situation prevents me from engaging in the practice on a frequent basis.
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April 8th, 2018 at 5:52:14 AM permalink
We’re all cave man as far as nature is concerned. Once your belly overhangs your belt, your killer genes kick in. Nature sees you as an inefficient life form consuming more than your share and threatening the survival of the rest of the gene pool. You must be eliminated. If you’re a male, your testosterone drops to keep you from procreating. If you’re a female, it increases, and you develop fertility issues. You also get facial hair and the hair on your head thins.

Then your knees go, and then your back, so you can’t climb for food or run after it. Or worse, run away from whatever is trying to eat you.

Your blood pressure increases and your arteries begin to stiffen and clog. Not just any arteries, the ones in your chest.

Get a bypass and nature always has the big one to take you out with.

The killer genes keep firing away until they take you out.
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April 8th, 2018 at 6:02:28 AM permalink
Quote: Tanko

We’re all cave man as far as nature is concerned. Once your belly overhangs your belt, your killer genes kick in. Nature sees you as an inefficient life form consuming more than your share and threatening the survival of the rest of the gene pool. You must be eliminated. If you’re a male, your testosterone drops to keep you from procreating. If you’re a female, it increases, and you develop fertility issues. You also get facial hair and the hair on your head thins.

Then your knees go, and then your back, so you can’t climb for food or run after it. Or worse, run away from whatever is trying to eat you.

Your blood pressure increases and your arteries begin to stiffen and clog. Not just any arteries, the ones in your chest.

Get a bypass and nature always has the big one to take you out with.

The killer genes keep firing away until they take you out.






Well.....that just depressed me all to hell
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April 8th, 2018 at 6:39:41 AM permalink
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Well.....that just depressed me all to hell

Cheer up. It is not true. Particularly if you ingest lots of that female skunk stuff.

It is true that nature benefits the species by being cruel to the individual, but as far as degenerative diseases go that is not necessary to endure. It is possible to lead a productive and physically active life right up to checking out time (or about within two weeks of it).

As I've previously pointed out all but one of the recognized enclaves of those routinely living 90 or more, a common theme is strong winds which means no house dust. One common theme in those locations is also a lack of degenerative diseases or such things as middle age spread.

And it doesn't take eating mung bean sprouts or something, I've posted about that guy who had Boiler Makers for breakfast, was a lithe, muscular fit dude who unloaded hundred pound cement bags from pallets onto shelves at age 83.
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April 8th, 2018 at 6:45:43 AM permalink
I am 4.5 months into an on-line weight loss "program" called Healthywage.com.

If I meet my goal of losing 40 lbs in 6 months, I win $ 550. If I don't, I lose $ 630.

The process was pretty straight-forward. One "certified" weigh-in at the beginning, which I did at our corporate Wellness Center, and then a weigh-in at the end. I am slightly behind my pace, but I am optimistic that I will still end up LOSING (enuff) WEIGHT and WINNING MONEY.
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April 8th, 2018 at 6:58:44 AM permalink
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They served samples on a little Ritz cracker. . . . Hakarl is what it was called

Kaestur Hakarl. Although that first a in Hakarl should have two bullet holes over it. Its fermented, cured, buried and hung, but the main thing is that little dab on a Ritz cracker is barely enough for just one Icelandic girl; eat a full portion and you can line up four or more.
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April 8th, 2018 at 7:28:02 AM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

I am 4.5 months into an on-line weight loss "program" called Healthywage.com.

If I meet my goal of losing 40 lbs in 6 months, I win $ 550. If I don't, I lose $ 630.

The process was pretty straight-forward. One "certified" weigh-in at the beginning, which I did at our corporate Wellness Center, and then a weigh-in at the end. I am slightly behind my pace, but I am optimistic that I will still end up winning.



And you will gain 50 lbs back in the following 6 months after that. Sorry to say of course. Just how these so called 'diets' work for everyone. If you go 'on' a diet, you will eventually go 'off' the diet. Learn to make lifestyle changes.
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April 8th, 2018 at 7:51:40 AM permalink
There must be a full moon cause I agree with ZK (just jokes bud). I have battled with my weight my whole life, I’ve done countless diets. Some worked and some didn’t but I always put the weight back on. I’ve steadily lost 70-80 (haven’t weighed myself but I’ve definitely lost weight in Asia) pounds over the last 2.5 years. I’m at my lowest weight since high school and I’m not on any diet. I eat food that I enjoy but I do it with moderation and I eat a lot of chicken, fish and veggies which luckily I enjoy. Also I exercise as much as possible
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April 8th, 2018 at 8:01:21 AM permalink
I just went to an mlm seminar for two hours and now I know more about health/nutrition than MD’s, and ZK.
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April 8th, 2018 at 8:08:39 AM permalink
My doctor said I needed to eat more Taco Bell.

What he said exactly was less McDonald’s but I know what he meant.
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April 8th, 2018 at 9:21:01 AM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

We've had several discussions on this and a few people are very knowledgeable. Seems a shame to have the wisdom lost to the sands of miscellaneous discussion.

I have a question to get the ball rolling. Dried fruit: WTF?

A lot of dried fruit is as good or better than most candy. Top of the line dates are fantastic. Dried pineapples can actually be too sweet for me. And I could eat nothing but dried ginger for the rest of my days.

Are these good, bad, kind of bad but better than regular sweets, or neutral? I've googled some but can't get a very good answer.

Also, progress reports from the battles of the bulge? GWAE?



Sigh I am just going to live with the realization that I will be over weight for life. People should have taken my bets. I offered 2 different times and got no takers. 2 easy money making bets.

If it were easy to upload photos to this site I would show my beverage right now. Hint... the label on the bottle is blue.
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April 8th, 2018 at 9:28:41 AM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

People cant go more than 8 hours their whole life without putting something in their mouth and then everyone wonders why theyre overweight and are on 3+ forms of medication. People need to rely on doctors and the scam that is health insurance. Health insurance is NOT health ASSURANCE. Diets dont work. If you go 'on' a diet, youre eventually going to go 'off' the diet. What people need are lifestyle changes. Fasting is the answer kids.

Also i laugh at all the people who go to the gym to lose weight. If youre going to the gym for something superficial such as losing weight, you wont last very long and youll just end up quitting. To last in the gym long term, you gotta go for something bigger than that. You gotta go because you truly 'enjoy' being there. Its gotta be something 'spiritual' rather than superficial.

Sigh, if only people actually listened to me, the world will be better off in so many different ways.



People make actually like to have a conversation with you if you didn't have to f@#%%÷@ think that you are God all the time. Just reply and be done with with. The world is not a better place when people constantly praise themselves. My fing god get over yourself.
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April 8th, 2018 at 9:31:15 AM permalink
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My doctor said I needed to eat more Taco Bell.

What he said exactly was less McDonald’s but I know what he meant.



Lmao that is funny. Taco bell actually has much fewer calories than most others. Unless you are like me and love that damn cravings box.
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April 8th, 2018 at 9:45:36 AM permalink
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People make actually like to have a conversation with you if you didn't have to f@#%%÷@ think that you are God all the time. Just reply and be done with with. The world is not a better place when people constantly praise themselves. My fing god get over yourself.


But...but...but...he's the "King"

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April 8th, 2018 at 10:28:22 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

People make actually like to have a conversation with you if you didn't have to f@#%%÷@ think that you are God all the time. Just reply and be done with with. The world is not a better place when people constantly praise themselves. My fing god get over yourself.


How did I miss this post? Lol

I do agree dieting is not the answer though. Changing your (not you personally GWAE) eating habits and excercise are the keys imo.
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April 8th, 2018 at 12:00:50 PM permalink
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How did I miss this post? Lol

I do agree dieting is not the answer though. Changing your (not you personally GWAE) eating habits and excercise are the keys imo.



Dieting is definitely all about changing eating habits but it is really hard. Skinny people dont understand just how hard. I can fully understand why smokers can't stop smoking or druggies can't stop drugs.

Last year I stopped drinking pop and substituted some other drinks. I was content for 100 days. But I went right back to it. Some of the reason for me to not eat as well as I should is cost. I am poor and we try to keep our food budget down. I love fajitas and could probably eat them every day. They are pretty healthy if you make them right, but it would cost us about $16 per dinner to do that. Or we can make spaghetti or sloppy joe and French fries for about $6. 1 is way healthier but I just can't afford that right now.

Same with snacks. I could buy fruits and veggies and spend $25 a week or I can buy pretzels and other foods like that for $6 a week.
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April 8th, 2018 at 12:04:27 PM permalink
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Dieting is definitely all about changing eating habits but it is really hard. Skinny people dont understand just how hard. I can fully understand why smokers can't stop smoking or druggies can't stop drugs.

Last year I stopped drinking pop and substituted some other drinks. I was content for 100 days. But I went right back to it. Some of the reason for me to not eat as well as I should is cost. I am poor and we try to keep our food budget down. I love fajitas and could probably eat them every day. They are pretty healthy if you make them right, but it would cost us about $16 per dinner to do that. Or we can make spaghetti or sloppy joe and French fries for about $6. 1 is way healthier but I just can't afford that right now.

Same with snacks. I could buy fruits and veggies and spend $25 a week or I can buy pretzels and other foods like that for $6 a week.


I have no answer to that other than find to money somewhere. Can you cut out a fast food meal or some other unneeded expense like lottery tickets or something. The money is probably there to buy healthy food, you just have to find it.
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April 8th, 2018 at 12:15:39 PM permalink
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And you will gain 50 lbs back in the following 6 months after that.

Maybe. Probably some. I'll try to remember to dig up this thread 7.5 months from now and provide an update.

I do intend to post my results for the first 6 months.
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April 8th, 2018 at 12:25:32 PM permalink
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Some of the reason for me to not eat as well as I should is cost. I am poor and we try to keep our food budget down.



Being a billionaire hasn't really helped Oprah keep her weight in check.
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April 8th, 2018 at 2:08:22 PM permalink
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Being a billionaire hasn't really helped Oprah keep her weight in check.



That is true, not sure how though. If you have a personal chef then that is crazy.
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April 8th, 2018 at 2:09:57 PM permalink
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I have no answer to that other than find to money somewhere. Can you cut out a fast food meal or some other unneeded expense like lottery tickets or something. The money is probably there to buy healthy food, you just have to find it.



Nope I am poor. That's why I live vicariously through your travels. 2 kids and a stay at home mom can do that to you. Living the dream... although we are in the first week of our new company so at least there is a potential upside.
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April 8th, 2018 at 2:15:15 PM permalink
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That is true, not sure how though. If you have a personal chef then that is crazy.


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April 8th, 2018 at 2:16:19 PM permalink
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Nope I am poor. That's why I live vicariously through your travels. 2 kids and a stay at home mom can do that to you. Living the dream... although we are in the first week of our new company so at least there is a potential upside.


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April 8th, 2018 at 2:24:50 PM permalink
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Dieting is definitely all about changing eating habits but it is really hard. Skinny people dont understand just how hard. I can fully understand why smokers can't stop smoking or druggies can't stop drugs.

Last year I stopped drinking pop and substituted some other drinks. I was content for 100 days. But I went right back to it. Some of the reason for me to not eat as well as I should is cost. I am poor and we try to keep our food budget down. I love fajitas and could probably eat them every day. They are pretty healthy if you make them right, but it would cost us about $16 per dinner to do that. Or we can make spaghetti or sloppy joe and French fries for about $6. 1 is way healthier but I just can't afford that right now.

Same with snacks. I could buy fruits and veggies and spend $25 a week or I can buy pretzels and other foods like that for $6 a week.



I've struggled with weight for years. I'm a pretty big guy. Back in my army days I was hard pressed to stay under 240 and often was closer to 260-270. For years I maintained my weight at 300-310 and while not skinny, wasn't fat. Gained 50 pounds one year and was putting on 10-15 a year after that. One thing lead to another and last year I was wearing pants with a 54 inch waist. Decided I was going to lose 100 pounds and wasn't concerned about how long it took. That was ten months ago, and I've dropped 45 pounds since. I don't starve myself, and can eat just about anything I want. I subscribed to Nutrisystem ($290 a month) and they provided about 75% of my meals. I still eat chips and things, but now I open the bag and divide the contents in two instead of eating it all.
It takes some work to eat well cheaply, but it can be done. Whole wheat pasta does cost twice as much as regular pasta, but it's only another dollar. Mix in some sauce and ground turkey, top with parmesan cheese and you have a healthy meal for about $3 a person. It sux that delis charge $9.99 a pound for regular roast beef but $12.99 for low salt, low fat roast beef, but it comes out to about fifty cents a sandwich.
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April 8th, 2018 at 3:22:00 PM permalink
Dried fruit is about 50% sugar.

I converted to a healthy diet about 15 months ago and I initially made the mistake of substituting dried fruit for fresh fruit in the wintertime (when fresh fruit has limited availability.) Terrible mistake!!! I gained weight and my blood sugar went through the roof.
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April 8th, 2018 at 3:26:33 PM permalink
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Dried fruit is about 50% sugar.

I converted to a healthy diet about 15 months ago and I initially made the mistake of substituting dried fruit for fresh fruit in the wintertime (when fresh fruit has limited availability.) Terrible mistake!!! I gained weight and my blood sugar went through the roof.



You do realize all fruit has sugar right. Just depends what kind of sugar youre referring to. Processed garbage sugar = glucose = bad. Natural occurring sugar = fructose = good.
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April 8th, 2018 at 3:32:35 PM permalink
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Nope I am poor. That's why I live vicariously through your travels. 2 kids and a stay at home mom can do that to you. Living the dream... although we are in the first week of our new company so at least there is a potential upside.



Shouldnt have gotten married and had kids before you were 35 and you wouldnt be broke. Your fault. Dont use it as an excuse as to why youre poor. You probably fell into society's trap as well to buy a house at a young age and became even more drowned in debt before you even had any money and thus became a slave and completely reliant on government for the rest of your life, which is exactly where the govt wants you and every single citizen in this country.

Luckily im too smart for the media, society, and the governments subtle traps. Never even had a credit card either. Dont you wish you could see through all of lifes problems at a young age like i have been able to. Everyone my age was too busy getting drunk and hammered every weekend only to realize one day when they wake up theyre 40 living paycheck to paycheck and are a single mom or worse has 3 kids and their whole lives are ruined from then on.
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April 8th, 2018 at 4:04:11 PM permalink
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Luckily im too smart for the media, society, and the governments subtle traps.

You're how old and have how much saved for retirement ? "They" say it is much better to start early.
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April 8th, 2018 at 4:07:46 PM permalink
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Shouldnt have gotten married and had kids before you were 35 and you wouldnt be broke. Your fault. Dont use it as an excuse as to why youre poor. You probably fell into society's trap as well to buy a house at a young age and became even more drowned in debt before you even had any money and thus became a slave and completely reliant on government for the rest of your life, which is exactly where the govt wants you and every single citizen in this country.

Luckily im too smart for the media, society, and the governments subtle traps. Never even had a credit card either. Dont you wish you could see through all of lifes problems at a young age like i have been able to. Everyone my age was too busy getting drunk and hammered every weekend only to realize one day when they wake up theyre 40 living paycheck to paycheck and are a single mom or worse has 3 kids and their whole lives are ruined from then on.



Well it's a good thing that you mentioned how smart you are because I dont think any of us have gotten that point yet. Btw, if you would just type half of what you type and leave out the how smart you are then people would probably have an actual conversation with you. But hey what do I know, I am too stupid to fall into societies trap.

Btw, never used family and house as an excuse why I am poor. It is the reason I am poor. I value family and raising kids the right way more than money. Although I love money, we made the decision that my wife would stay home with the kids and I would work my ass off. So while you are complaining every day about petty stuff like Chinese decks I am having dinner with a loving family and kids and planning the next fun adventure that we are going to have. Too bad I am too stupid to fall for societies trap. Looks like I am the loser here.
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April 8th, 2018 at 4:08:34 PM permalink
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Luckily im too smart for the media, society, and the governments subtle traps.

You're how old and have how much saved for retirement ? "They" say it is much better to start early.



45k plus his winnings from the bulls under and bitcoins explosion. So I think that equals 45k
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April 8th, 2018 at 4:13:46 PM permalink
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45k plus his winnings from the bulls under and bitcoins explosion. So I think that equals 45k

That's not a bad start assuming there is a reliable income every year that exceeds his expenses, enabling his wealth to grow. Now I'm not saying don't live your dream. But I believe there is a need to plan long term.
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April 8th, 2018 at 4:36:01 PM permalink
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Luckily im too smart for the media, society, and the governments subtle traps.

You're how old and have how much saved for retirement ? "They" say it is much better to start early.



45k plus his winnings from the bulls under and bitcoins explosion. So I think that equals 45k



Wrong. Closer to 53k now, also with no debt and a car worth about 8k thats paid off and not to mention im now almost up to 10k in profit in vegas after only 260 hours even with Zcore and everyone else ratting me out to casinos and me running badly since i got here. Im also about 1k away from a milestone lifetime profit of 50k through counting alone after just close to 1100 hours playing exclusively 6-8 deck shoe games with just an average bet of around 150-200. Now thats impressive.

Also keep in mind i never even had a job of more than 11 an hour, never had a credit card, never took out a loan, and never got one handout from my family in terms of money. So, what is that? Over 60k net worth? But who cares money isnt everything, but im tired of seeing others make wrong moves in their life and wonder why theyre broke. You say youre happy with your family but most families are secretly miserable and wish they wouldve never gotten married at all or waited to have kids etc. Women today expect the world and feel so entitled but yet cant even make a sandwich or make an omeltte and are only useful for emptying your wallet. Theyre pretty much something you want to avoid especially before youre 35 and when i say avoid, i mean 'relationships' with them.

Also to everyone who has ratted me out and to all the casinos who kicked me out and fake trespassed me with intimidation, i tell you all this, 'WhyAmISoGood'? How does it feel when you try and get your 6 foot 7 security guards to intimidate me into giving up my id and im just calmly laying against the cashier counter nearly falling asleep with a smile on my face as you spit out lies. LOL. This is too priceless. Thanks for another fake trespass. You know who you are and guesd what you cant stop me. God i wish this was the 60s, would love to see you guys backroom me. You could beat me up and id be back the next day.

Im pretty much close to posting on these forums. I already proved everyone wrong and this city couldnt even beat me even with the amount of luck and immoral illegal things theyve done against me. Too easy. Thanks for coming vegas.
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April 8th, 2018 at 4:43:51 PM permalink
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Dried fruit is about 50% sugar.

I converted to a healthy diet about 15 months ago and I initially made the mistake of substituting dried fruit for fresh fruit in the wintertime (when fresh fruit has limited availability.) Terrible mistake!!! I gained weight and my blood sugar went through the roof.

Fruit should always be eaten whole and in reasonable portions (1 or 2 pieces per day max). Otherwise the sugar intake negates the nutritional benefits. No dried fruit, juices or smoothies.
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