onenickelmiracle
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July 28th, 2017 at 9:19:23 AM permalink
Pay play not free play



I guess it finally happened, a new low I never really imagined. We have not been going to Mountaineer Casino in West Virginia for the most part since Eldorado took over, because free play and the machines became noticeably stingy. The free play formula had changed where many people had offers drastically cut 50-70% approximately or dropped altogether. Someone said they were the other day and there were only 8 cars parked there.

So today's mail, my sister was offered $5 free play once a week, but only after FIRST getting 30 tier points, which is $300 coin-in. What a f***Ing joke. They might as well get a bull dozer and tear it all down if this is what it's coming to. They're basically saying if you lose $50, we'll give you $4, we cannot afford taking a chance on you driving 45 minutes here and robbing us of $4.
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July 28th, 2017 at 9:26:31 AM permalink
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Pay play not free play



I guess it finally happened, a new low I never really imagined. We have not been going to Mountaineer Casino in West Virginia for the most part since Eldorado took over, because free play and the machines became noticeably stingy. The free play formula had changed where many people had offers drastically cut 50-70% approximately or dropped altogether. Someone said they were the other day and there were only 8 cars parked there.

So today's mail, my sister was offered $5 free play once a week, but only after FIRST getting 30 tier points, which is $300 coin-in. What a f***Ing joke. They might as well get a bull dozer and tear it all down if this is what it's coming to. They're basically saying if you lose $50, we'll give you $4, we cannot afford taking a chance on you driving 45 minutes here and robbing us of $4.



I didnt know moutaineer was taken over. I have seen the earn X to get x before at the meadows. My wife got that the month before they stopped sending her monthly mailers.
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onenickelmiracle
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July 28th, 2017 at 9:42:04 AM permalink
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I didnt know moutaineer was taken over. I have seen the earn X to get x before at the meadows. My wife got that the month before they stopped sending her monthly mailers.

Last summer it was official Eldorado Resorts took over MTR gaming, the company started by buying up Reno casinos I believe. Such may be a possibility the offers are to disappear, I never understand how companies can believe such a thing works by increasingly reducing offers. It's possible I've seen something like this from Meadows before, sure as hell wouldn't remember participating by going to a place that gave me such an offer. It's pretty much a fact if I see such crap, I make a mental note I will not return for 6-12 months.
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July 28th, 2017 at 12:21:19 PM permalink
Let's see how well the borgata does when they reduce mail- and
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July 28th, 2017 at 1:13:32 PM permalink
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They're basically saying if you lose $50, we'll give you $4, we cannot afford taking a chance on you driving 45 minutes here and robbing us of $4.

Yeah, that is their attitude but will the players realize it? Remember that word 'free' exerts a powerful effect.

They sure ain't being generous and I'm sure that attitude is reflected in the slot chip settings and room comp policies.

Time to drop that place from your list of 'possibles'. They've sure dropped you from their list.
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July 28th, 2017 at 1:19:48 PM permalink
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Last summer it was official Eldorado Resorts took over MTR gaming, the company started by buying up Reno casinos I believe. Such may be a possibility the offers are to disappear, I never understand how companies can believe such a thing works by increasingly reducing offers. It's possible I've seen something like this from Meadows before, sure as hell wouldn't remember participating by going to a place that gave me such an offer. It's pretty much a fact if I see such crap, I make a mental note I will not return for 6-12 months.



MTR is the company that bought Binion's downtown and the old Raceway Casino in Vegas, then ran them into the ground. Can't imagine any company being worse than they were.
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July 28th, 2017 at 5:10:20 PM permalink
How many other casinos are there in a 1hr drive?
onenickelmiracle
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July 28th, 2017 at 6:13:46 PM permalink
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How many other casinos are there in a 1hr drive?

Four within just one hour, double that within 2, not mentioning small cafes everywhere in West Virginia. It turned out, I also got mail today, without a play first requirement. We both hadn't been there in the same amount of time, all visits coincide, so did assume it was a policy there. Maybe it will, I dont even understand their logic suddenly adding a significant play requirement upfront to get a measly lousy $5 free play. All I can gather is out of spite for not coming for their peanuts or a desperate attempt at reverse psychology.

Their sister property also seems to spoil offers as time goes by, sending smaller and smaller offers, never bumping back up, and doesn't allow free play to be used at video poker.
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July 28th, 2017 at 6:27:51 PM permalink
What kind of gambling is there in the small cafes? I've never spent much time in WV. Just the amount it takes to pass thru on 81.
onenickelmiracle
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July 28th, 2017 at 6:46:36 PM permalink
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What kind of gambling is there in the small cafes? I've never spent much time in WV. Just the amount it takes to pass thru on 81.

Old style slots like Little Green Men, Double Diamond 2000, Unicorn, Lucky Lionfish, etc., all listed with 8.01 holds, keno and video poker. No players club, free non-alcoholic drinks, free chips, free cookies, etc. I dont remember pay tables, assume nothing above 95% and pretty sure no bets over $2. I liked playing Double Diamond 2000, miss it in casinos.
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