Nathan
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February 6th, 2017 at 11:33:08 PM permalink
That seems morally wrong. I remember a woman saying something like,"I placed my bet on the craps table. Literally a few seconds later, I decided I didn't want to risk my money anymore, and tried to take my wager off the table and the dealer told me,"Once the bet has been made, it cannot be removed. It has to be played." Some players stood up for her saying something like,"She doesn't want to play anymore. You really should give her her wager money back." The dealer still decided to make her play which most likely left a bad taste in the whole table's mouths. This is why slots have a slight advantage over table games. If you put your money into a slot machine and decide,"I really don't want to risk my money anymore, " you just press cashout and go to another machine or cash it in and go home. That's just beyond not okay making someone play after they've made it clear they don't want to risk their money anymore and want their unplayed money back.
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ontariodealer
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February 6th, 2017 at 11:36:24 PM permalink
get off the crack man....it'll kill you.
get second you pig
MrV
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February 6th, 2017 at 11:41:57 PM permalink
C'mon, Nathan might be on to something.

Sure, not only can you cash out whenever you want, but slots all have flashing lights and loud noises to keep you from falling asleep.

That should count for something.
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bobbartop
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February 6th, 2017 at 11:56:57 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

That seems morally wrong. I remember a woman saying something like,"I placed my bet on the craps table. Literally a few seconds later, I decided I didn't want to risk my money anymore, and tried to take my wager off the table and the dealer told me,"Once the bet has been made, it cannot be removed. It has to be played." Some players stood up for her saying something like,"She doesn't want to play anymore. You really should give her her wager money back." The dealer still decided to make her play which most likely left a bad taste in the whole table's mouths. This is why slots have a slight advantage over table games. If you put your money into a slot machine and decide,"I really don't want to risk my money anymore, " you just press cashout and go to another machine or cash it in and go home. That's just beyond not okay making someone play after they've made it clear they don't want to risk their money anymore and want their unplayed money back.



Is this a weird post, on so many different levels? Or is it just me?
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DeMango
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February 7th, 2017 at 12:29:07 AM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

Is this a weird post, on so many different levels? Or is it just me?



No, not you. Someone who does not understand the game commenting on someone who does not understand the game.
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FleaStiff
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February 7th, 2017 at 3:07:07 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

C'mon, XXXXXXXXXXX might be on to something.

I seem to recall some posts that might involve deleting the word 'to" in reference to such posts about the fundamentals of play by a number of posters.

A contract bet is a contract bet and MUST be treated as such.

A shooter can stop shooting and can even walk away from the table but his line bet stays until resolved.

Sure a slot player can stop pulling that big red-knobed lever whenever he wants, so what?
Romes
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February 7th, 2017 at 6:53:34 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

That seems morally wrong. I remember a woman saying something like,"I placed my bet on the craps table. Literally a few seconds later, I decided I didn't want to risk my money anymore, and tried to take my wager off the table and the dealer told me,"Once the bet has been made, it cannot be removed. It has to be played." Some players stood up for her saying something like,"She doesn't want to play anymore. You really should give her her wager money back." The dealer still decided to make her play which most likely left a bad taste in the whole table's mouths. This is why slots have a slight advantage over table games. If you put your money into a slot machine and decide,"I really don't want to risk my money anymore, " you just press cashout and go to another machine or cash it in and go home. That's just beyond not okay making someone play after they've made it clear they don't want to risk their money anymore and want their unplayed money back.

If the point was established the bet must be resolved. Otherwise someone would just bet Pass Line for $1,000,000... and when a come out winner WASN'T rolled say "Oh, well I don't feel like playing anymore (now that I'm not the favorite) so give me my bet back! You can't just simply take your bet back in the middle of play. If this was before the point was established then I believe she has every right to withdraw the bet, otherwise she does not.

It's the same thing as betting $1,000,000 on blackjack, getting dealt a 16, and saying "Yeah I don't want to play anymore. Give me my money back." Not going to work.

Lastly, tables have a MULTIPLICATIVE advantage over slots. Slots are always the WORST payback thing you can do in a casino going as low as the state minimums allow such as 85% payback (15% HE). While at the tables, such as craps in your example, the HE is usually 1.41%. It's not even close. Tables are BEYOND better than slots, so I think it's pretty terrible advice to say slots are better. You can leave tables after any hand/roll you already bet on has completed.
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Zcore13
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February 7th, 2017 at 7:09:02 AM permalink
Slots are no different. Once a game starts, you can't get your money back. If you are playing Deal or No Deal and you have 2 cases to pick still, you can't hit the cash out button and get anything back. If you are playing video keno and the game starts, even if you haven't picked your numbers yet, you cant get your money back.


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Ayecarumba
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February 7th, 2017 at 4:10:38 PM permalink
I have seen this. What would you do?:

Point is already established, shooter throws the dice and one of them bounces out of the tub.

Shooter had a "Come" bet, and reaches out to take it back, but the dealer won't let him. Dealer explains that that the bet has to be resolved.
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DJTeddyBear
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February 7th, 2017 at 6:22:29 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I have seen this. What would you do?:

Point is already established, shooter throws the dice and one of them bounces out of the tub.

Shooter had a "Come" bet, and reaches out to take it back, but the dealer won't let him. Dealer explains that that the bet has to be resolved.

That surprises me. I would ask a floor person for the rule.
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