Trump's First 100 Days

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RS

So you're not on the white pride sites and mailing lists.

Do you have proof he's not?

Quote: beachbumbabs

So you're not on the white pride sites

I find it insulting you don't think I'm on any white pride forums!




But seriously, there's a disconnect in the logic here.

X's are bad.
Most X are Y.
Therefore Y's are bad.

It's been a while since I've studied logic in college, but I'm pretty sure you'd fail your assignment if you tried to argue the above proof as valid. And this is the exact argument you're trying to make. Because racists voted for Trump, then there's something wrong with all people who voted for Trump.

Most terrorists are religious, but most religious people are not terrorists. Does this make religious people bad?

You can probably look up stats on child-molesters, mass shooters, insider trading fraud, cult leaders, etc. and see most of them are white people (I'm guessing). But most white people are not child molesters, mass shooters, etc. Does this make white people bad?

If most prisoners are minorities, does that make minorities bad people? Using your guys' logic above, the answer would be a YES. (No, I don't think this.)


1. Yes I agree.

2. Are you forgetting about all those who voted for Hillary or Bernie? These kinds of people on the left are the exact opposite (and just as bad) as the ones on the right. Instead of being misognistic, they believe women are superior to men (ie: what feminism actually is, not what they say they stand for). The same applies to race and sexual orientation. [NOTE: I'm not saying all people on the left are like this, but the right's racist/sexist/homophobic's mirrored image on the left is like this.]

What's the most common response when asked (to a person on the left) what their opinion is of requiring an ID when voting? I'd say it has something to do along the lines of "it's unfair to minorities (because they tend to be poor)". Hint: That's racism right there, and we all damn well know it.

3. I'm not denying racism or any of that other stuff exists. It just makes no sense to say it only applies to (some) on the right and imply that none on the left are like that.


I think part of the problem is oftentimes when someone hears a mention of a stereotype or something that's race-related, they automatically assume that person is a racist. There's a reason stereotypes exist...it's because (as far as I know), they're mostly true. Nobody is saying that all black people are scared of dogs or are athletic. Or that white people like avocados or starbucks. Or Chinese get good grades in school. Just that different people are more likely to be good or bad or w/e else at different things. How many black people vs Mexicans or Asians are in the NFL? NBA? White people in MLB, NHL, golf? I'd guess most of the professional soccer players in the USA are Latino/Mexican.

Same with gender. You don't see many male elementary school teachers. You also don't see many females in computer science / engineering / math / etc.


Our value as a human, we are all equal. But I think it's silly to deny our differences and claim these differences are due to racism, gender inequality, or any other buzzword.

Quote: AxelWolf

Do you have proof he's not?

He says he hasn't seen any evidence. If he were on those sites or mailing lists on either side I mentioned, he would have had plenty over the last 2 years. So, unless he's lying, he's not on those lists and websites. And, for whatever reason, he ignores those examples which have spilled into public airing over that time.

Quote: RS

I find it insulting you don't think I'm on any white pride forums!

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j/k

But seriously, there's a disconnect in the logic here.

X's are bad.
Most X are Y.
Therefore Y's are bad.

It's been a while since I've studied logic in college, but I'm pretty sure you'd fail your assignment if you tried to argue the above proof as valid. And this is the exact argument you're trying to make. Because racists voted for Trump, then there's something wrong with all people who voted for Trump.

Most terrorists are religious, but most religious people are not terrorists. Does this make religious people bad?

You can probably look up stats on child-molesters, mass shooters, insider trading fraud, cult leaders, etc. and see most of them are white people (I'm guessing). But most white people are not child molesters, mass shooters, etc. Does this make white people bad?

If most prisoners are minorities, does that make minorities bad people? Using your guys' logic above, the answer would be a YES. (No, I don't think this.)


1. Yes I agree.

2. Are you forgetting about all those who voted for Hillary or Bernie? These kinds of people on the left are the exact opposite (and just as bad) as the ones on the right. Instead of being misognistic, they believe women are superior to men (ie: what feminism actually is, not what they say they stand for). The same applies to race and sexual orientation. [NOTE: I'm not saying all people on the left are like this, but the right's racist/sexist/homophobic's mirrored image on the left is like this.]

What's the most common response when asked (to a person on the left) what their opinion is of requiring an ID when voting? I'd say it has something to do along the lines of "it's unfair to minorities (because they tend to be poor)". Hint: That's racism right there, and we all damn well know it.

3. I'm not denying racism or any of that other stuff exists. It just makes no sense to say it only applies to (some) on the right and imply that none on the left are like that.


I think part of the problem is oftentimes when someone hears a mention of a stereotype or something that's race-related, they automatically assume that person is a racist. There's a reason stereotypes exist...it's because (as far as I know), they're mostly true. Nobody is saying that all black people are scared of dogs or are athletic. Or that white people like avocados or starbucks. Or Chinese get good grades in school. Just that different people are more likely to be good or bad or w/e else at different things. How many black people vs Mexicans or Asians are in the NFL? NBA? White people in MLB, NHL, golf? I'd guess most of the professional soccer players in the USA are Latino/Mexican.

Same with gender. You don't see many male elementary school teachers. You also don't see many females in computer science / engineering / math / etc.


Our value as a human, we are all equal. But I think it's silly to deny our differences and claim these differences are due to racism, gender inequality, or any other buzzword.

Everyone, but Hillary, who enjoys grabbing p*ssy voted for Trump.

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Quote: RS

I find it insulting you don't think I'm on any white pride forums!

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j/k

But seriously, there's a disconnect in the logic here.

X's are bad.
Most X are Y.
Therefore Y's are bad.

It's been a while since I've studied logic in college, but I'm pretty sure you'd fail your assignment if you tried to argue the above proof as valid. And this is the exact argument you're trying to make. Because racists voted for Trump, then there's something wrong with all people who voted for Trump.

Most terrorists are religious, but most religious people are not terrorists. Does this make religious people bad?

You can probably look up stats on child-molesters, mass shooters, insider trading fraud, cult leaders, etc. and see most of them are white people (I'm guessing). But most white people are not child molesters, mass shooters, etc. Does this make white people bad?

If most prisoners are minorities, does that make minorities bad people? Using your guys' logic above, the answer would be a YES. (No, I don't think this.)


1. Yes I agree.

2. Are you forgetting about all those who voted for Hillary or Bernie? These kinds of people on the left are the exact opposite (and just as bad) as the ones on the right. Instead of being misognistic, they believe women are superior to men (ie: what feminism actually is, not what they say they stand for). The same applies to race and sexual orientation. [NOTE: I'm not saying all people on the left are like this, but the right's racist/sexist/homophobic's mirrored image on the left is like this.]

What's the most common response when asked (to a person on the left) what their opinion is of requiring an ID when voting? I'd say it has something to do along the lines of "it's unfair to minorities (because they tend to be poor)". Hint: That's racism right there, and we all damn well know it.

3. I'm not denying racism or any of that other stuff exists. It just makes no sense to say it only applies to (some) on the right and imply that none on the left are like that.


I think part of the problem is oftentimes when someone hears a mention of a stereotype or something that's race-related, they automatically assume that person is a racist. There's a reason stereotypes exist...it's because (as far as I know), they're mostly true. Nobody is saying that all black people are scared of dogs or are athletic. Or that white people like avocados or starbucks. Or Chinese get good grades in school. Just that different people are more likely to be good or bad or w/e else at different things. How many black people vs Mexicans or Asians are in the NFL? NBA? White people in MLB, NHL, golf? I'd guess most of the professional soccer players in the USA are Latino/Mexican.

Same with gender. You don't see many male elementary school teachers. You also don't see many females in computer science / engineering / math / etc.


Our value as a human, we are all equal. But I think it's silly to deny our differences and claim these differences are due to racism, gender inequality, or any other buzzword.

Everyone, but Hillary, who enjoys grabbing p*ssy voted for Trump.

What Axel said is not remotely true. There's a time and a place for everything in a sexual relationship. The issues were

1. Grabbing strange that did not want to be grabbed.

2. Thinking it was welcome because of his fame or wealth.

3. Seeing women as objects that trade their bodies for jobs, titles, or money.

It's a rapist mindframe. A way of demonstrating power or ownership over other people for your gratification and their humiliation and outrage.

Who's strange did Trump grab?

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1.There are homophobic and/or misogynistic and/or racists in this country. Millions of them.



2. The vast majority of those people voted for Trump.

Yes there are. And many of them are Muslims. However, they didn't vote for Trump, they voted for Hillary. OOPS!


http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/04/21/second-doctor-arrested-genital-mutilation/100741450/

I guess when it comes to civil rights, the rights of women, gays, etc... we're supposed to look the other way when it comes to the Muslims.

They didn't look the other way. They arrested them for their barbaric practices.

The hell with all of the drug dealers in Detroit killing their "clients." Let's get this one doctor.

And why haven't the parents of these kids been charged yet?

Just watching the WH press conference regarding taxes. Does Mnuchin have a neurological problem? Watch his facial expressions.

BTW, I think I'm OK with the tax plan. He's cutting the actual corporate rate from 20% (reportedly what corporations actually average paying) to 15%. No biggie.

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Yes there are. And many of them are Muslims. However, they didn't vote for Trump, they voted for Hillary. OOPS!


http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/04/21/second-doctor-arrested-genital-mutilation/100741450/

I guess when it comes to civil rights, the rights of women, gays, etc... we're supposed to look the other way when it comes to the Muslims.

??????
I lean left
But
If a Muslim, gay, woman, transgender breaks the law, they should be prosecuted
Breaking the law is not a left or right issue
Your politics, race, sexual orientation is meaningless
You break the law, you should be prosecuted regardless if you are a Muslim or a Christian conservative

Forgot to post this here last week.

Remember when the righties were soooo pissed about Obama's golf outings?

Quote: ams288

Forgot to post this here last week.

Remember when the righties were soooo pissed about Obama's golf outings?

Trump's got determination, I like it. You can't expect to be good at golf (or anything in life) if you don't practice.

Quote: ams288

Forgot to post this here last week.

Remember when the righties were soooo pissed about Obama's golf outings?

But trump is working while he plays. Haters gonna hate.
I wish he'd play 54 rounds a day, then another 36 on Golden Tee.

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Quote: ams288

Forgot to post this here last week.

Remember when the righties were soooo pissed about Obama's golf outings?

But trump is working while he plays. Haters gonna hate.
I wish he'd play 54 rounds a day, then another 36 on Golden Tee.

Um, are you sure you meant "Golden Tee"?

Quote: MaxPen

Who's strange did Trump grab?

Well, from his own mouth a lot of different strange ranging from house maids to pageant contestants.

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Quote: ams288

Forgot to post this here last week.

Remember when the righties were soooo pissed about Obama's golf outings?

Trump's got determination, I like it. You can't expect to be good at golf (or anything in life) if you don't practice.

Scam artists are only good at one thing.....scamming the public.

Quote: steeldco

BTW, I think I'm OK with the tax plan. He's cutting the actual corporate rate from 20% (reportedly what corporations actually average paying) to 15%. No biggie.

Yeah, but is 15% what they will actually pay?

for instance, the rate now is 35% but you say they actually pay 20%. So when the rate is 15% will they actually be paying 8.6%?

Quote: steeldco

BTW, I think I'm OK with the tax plan. He's cutting the actual corporate rate from 20% (reportedly what corporations actually average paying) to 15%. No biggie.

Why not go for 1% rate, and then let your grandchildren, children's grandchildren, grandchildren's grandchildren to pickup the tab of our national debt.

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Quote: ams288

Forgot to post this here last week.

Remember when the righties were soooo pissed about Obama's golf outings?

Trump's got determination, I like it. You can't expect to be good at golf (or anything in life) if you don't practice.

Scam artists are only good at one thing.....scamming the public.

The racist, sexist, and rapist Trump is now also a scam artist ...

This plan, which is doomed anyway, appears to tax your medical plan if it is from your employer.

Quote: steeldco

BTW, I think I'm OK with the tax plan. He's cutting the actual corporate rate from 20% (reportedly what corporations actually average paying) to 15%. No biggie.

Question: Who will pay for the racist, sexist, rapist, and scam artist Trump’s excessive goft outings, travels, and around the clock Secret Service protection at Trump Tower and Mar A Lago; and our national defense, infrastructure, public safety, clean water/air, and other state & federal governmental services?

Answer: No biggie, Mexico will.

Quote: 777

Question: Who will pay for the racist, sexist, rapist, and scam artist Trump’s excessive goft outings, travels, and around the clock Secret Service protection at Trump Tower and Mar A Lago; and our national defense, infrastructure, public safety, clean water/air, and other state & federal governmental services?

Answer: No biggie, Mexico will.

I certainly hope that you don't think that I'm a fan of King Trump and his Lilliputians.........

My question is the same one I ask of each person under every President. Has your life changed or been adversely affected since Jan 20th? In most cases, aside from political leanings, the answer is a resounding NO.

Take the fanatics out on both sides, and most working Americans see little change in their lives. As it should be.

a big part of the no answer is that he hasn't been able to accomplish much of anything he has tried, yet.

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a big part of the no answer is that he hasn't been able to accomplish much of anything he has tried, yet.

I think Trump was skilled at filing lawsuits against adversaries and being able to walk away from any deal he couldn't make.

Not really the same options as President.

BTW, how reliable do you think Trump's books are for accuracy?

Makes me laugh just thinking about it..

Quote: mcallister3200

a big part of the no answer is that he hasn't been able to accomplish much of anything he has tried, yet.

Correct, but what does he want to do that will affect most of us? I contend nothing, just like those who complain about Obama. While many won't agree with legislation, your everyday life continues unaffected. Living your life, getting out of it what you put into it should be every able bodied persons goal.

Quote: Boz

My question is the same one I ask of each person under every President. Has your life changed or been adversely affected since Jan 20th? In most cases, aside from political leanings, the answer is a resounding NO.

Take the fanatics out on both sides, and most working Americans see little change in their lives. As it should be.

Right now in my life.
President Clinton and the Dems of that time have probably had the biggest positive effect on my life right now
FMLA.
I am a huge fan and it saved me financially.
Just had a major emergency operation of course covered by employee health insurance
FMLA gives me plenty of time to recover and still getting a full paycheck and get my job back when recovered. I worked hard and due to an FMLA, my job is protected by law.
As to other people, I am sure Obamacare saved a lot of lives and kept people on their feet financially. It would really suck for a lot of people if they lost healthcare insurance. Due to my recent experience, I know how important insurance is. Its gotta be stressful hearing repubs and Trump wanting it to fail.
Other then that, its local politics that have the biggest effect in our lives. Traffic, police, schools ect. Local politics can really effect the quality of local services. I would rather pay more and live in a nice safe community with great roads, great police and great schools.

Quote: Boz

Correct, but what does he want to do that will affect most of us? I contend nothing, just like those who complain about Obama. While many won't agree with legislation, your everyday life continues unaffected. Living your life, getting out of it what you put into it should be every able bodied persons goal.

His tax plan would give corporations the break (I heard the real current average is 14%, not 20%, but not sure what source so can't cite) in order to bring money they're holding offshore back to the US.

In exchange, they're looking at killing the mortgage deduction, making you pay taxes for IRA /401k and health plan savings accounts at current rather than deferred earnings, and slightly raising the standard deduction amount to (pretend to) make those losses up to you, Joe/Jane.

It's a huge scam in changing the burden to the middle for the benefit of the rich and large corporations. The middle use 401k to save about 10% of their salary tax-deferred for retirement. The rich use other financial tools that would either not be affected or would benefit with lower tax rates(already low, like the 15% capital gains tax vs. income tax scaled from 17% to 39%.

The 1% really, really resent the 47%. Yet income tax is only a subset of taxes; everyone pays FICA (tops out to the benefit of the rich), gasoline tax, tobacco and alcohol, airline pax head tax, other flat federal taxes. As a percentage of income, federal taxes AS A WHOLE are already disproportionately paid by the middle class, then the poor, then the rich.

As an absolute dollar value, the rich per person pay more (except Trump, apparently), but the argument most make is that it's most fair to use the percentage of income scaling rather than absolute dollars. This tax plan takes the minority view that all the other tax revenues should be ignored and income tax treated as the only revenue source, in order to justify tilting things still further in a direction favoring the rich. Salesmanship, not parity. And personally benefiting Trump, his companies, and family.

Trumps tax scam is Dead On Arrival so no point fretting about it.

Quote: steeldco

BTW, I think I'm OK with the tax plan. He's cutting the actual corporate rate from 20% (reportedly what corporations actually average paying) to 15%. No biggie.

Trump’s Tax Plan Is a Reckoning for Republican Deficit Hawks

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/26/us/politics/trump-tax-plan-budget-deficit.html?_r=0

Here are few comments of the article above from readers:

VMG
The proposed Trump tax plan, what little we know of, is just warmed over Supply Side, Trickle Down economics. The idea that reducing corporate taxes to 15% will magically ignite the economy without increasing the deficit and adding to the national debt is a dream. For manufacturers that outsource, they will take the increased profits and continue to outsource. Why would they build factories to make the products that they can buy cheaper from China? Why would they hire employees only to pay additional salaries and benefits when all they have to do increase warehouse space and hire people to only buy, sell and ship products?
The lower corporate tax rates will make some people very rich while piling up a massive debt that the middle –class again will be saddled with. Republicans as the party of fiscal conservatism need to do their jobs and push back on this ridiculous proposal for the good of the country not for the 1% that will receive a tremendous windfall.

Becky
This tax will hurt those that live in states with high state taxes, as we won't be able to deduct these taxes from the federal income tax. Given that these high tax states are blue states (CA, NY, NJ, etc), I am sure the Republicans are happy to stick it to us in their tax planning. However, it might backfire as more of us may just decide to move to FL in retirement to avoid state taxes and bring our blue votes with us. Perhaps FL could return to the blue state I knew growing up in FL.

I'm 65 years old and for as long as I can remember Republicans have been using "trickle down" economics and FUTURE economic growth as justifications for their tax cuts for the very rich. Instead, they wreck the economy and then a Democratic president has to clean up the mess.

Barb Campbell
We're about to find out whether these "so-called conservatives" will put the federal deficit ahead of their personal bank accounts. Trump has made clear where he stands. There should be no vote on tax reform until Trump and his family members release their tax returns so that the public knows how they will benefit from the tax reform proposals.

Sheila
It seems pretty simple to me that less money coming + more going out = debt. I'm not a financial genius by any stretch, but to me, that's just basic math. Once again, the hypocrisy of the GOP continues to stun me, even more so, that the average American still drinks this poison Kool-Aid.


John Wilson
Keynesian economics is alive and well, apparently, even for those who proudly call themselves conservative. Cutting taxes in an economy that is already moving along at a rational pace commensurate with our population growth, and characterized by low unemployment, reasonable inventories, and a booming (albeit slightly irrationally, "exuberantly" as one Fed Chair once said) stock market is likely a foolish -- dare I say "greedy"? -- idea. Save spending and tax-cutting for the inevitable just-around-the-corner downturn when it is urgently, direly needed, not when it's merely rich, greasy gravy poured lavishly over an already sumptuous feast!!

Mr. Adams
What Trump is failing to take into account, just like Reagan and Bush, is that you cannot know for sure what businesses will do with the extra cash. They may spend some of it. They may keep some of it. They may just keep it all in the bank. There's no guarantee that it will be circulated back into the economy.

You want big tax cuts? Fine. But only give the lower rate on funds that get invested back into workers and infrastructure for the business. Any funds sitting around doing no good, or being used as executive compensation, investment portfolios, or shareholder bonuses - TAX the daylights out of those. This would incentivize firms to put their money back into their assets (aka, employees & business infrastructure) rather than letting them line the pockets of a few executives with stolen tax dollars.

More comments from various readers from article referenced ( https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/26/us/politics/trump-tax-plan-budget-deficit.html?_r=0 ) from above message:

HMB
“This is a thing of beauty, a thing of wonder,” Grover Norquist, the president of Americans for Tax Reform, said of Mr. Trump’s one-page plan. “Growth, growth, growth!”

Of course it is. Mr Norquist has stated "My ideal citizen is the self-employed, homeschooling, IRA-owning guy with a concealed-carry permit because that person doesn't need the goddamn government for anything."

Except perhaps infrastructure that is not crumbling. I suppose instead of needing roads, airports, trains, etc. we'll all be on the homestead, milking the cows and herding the kids around for target practice on the back acreage.

I'm sure that one page document has it all figured out.

RM
The Laffer curve is good for a laugh at today's tax rates. Along with the wingo business and economic types who like to cite the Kennedy tax cut as proof that tax cuts have great stimulative effect on economic activity.

Back when JFK took office, the top personal income tax rate was 91%, meaning that a top bracket earner got to keep 9 cents out of every marginal dollar earned in personal income. This did not mean that there were no incentives for top earners to make even more money. Rather, their incentive was to structure their compensation to qualify for capital gains treatment. Which was actually better for corporate investors as to realize their compensation, these top managers had to build value to the corporations they ran. Unlike today's execs, who covet cash compensation, bonuses, and golden parachutes if all goes wrong.

But think about the numbers. A tax cut from 91% to 70% meant that the after tax compensation on a marginal dollar earned went from 9 cents to 30 cents, more than triple. So of course, such a tax cut created powerful incentives. But if the top tax rate is lowered from 40% to 35%, it means that 60 cents of after tax compensation goes from 60 cents to 65 cents per additional dollar earned. Nowhere near as powerful as tripling one's after tax compensation.

I have read that high tax rate countries have studied this, and determined that a revenue maximizing tax rate is in the 50 to 55% range. We are already below that.

Cab
If anyone is drowning in debt it is the middle and working classes which are pretty much at the limit for the kind of spending that would help economic activity. A tax cut would not mean much for those whose wages have been stagnant for decades. Why not put money in their pockets by lowering or canceling the consumer debt load by cutting the usorous interest rates on credit cards or canceling the debt when your payments have paid for purchases twice over. Raising wages and salaries to make up for the loses of the last 30 years would be a help.

Maybe the GOP wants to invest in the wrong place.


albert
Republicans cannot repeal the law of economics. Unsound tax policies will lead to a disaster. Countries around the world with better tax policies will eat our lunch with a population that is better educated, live longer, and are more productive. The reason the first world countries have a high standard of living is because infrastructure leads to greater productivity. It is the third world countries that have low taxes and wide gaps between the rich and the poor.


MPH
If companies only pay tax on profits, and investments, expenses and labor costs are deductions how can lowering the tax rate encourage those things? It seems to me it would do the opposite, however it might ensure profits are kept here rather than in other countries so that may be good.
The best idea is to just increase the individual deduction even more than they propose rather than fiddle with the whole tax code. That would mean that every taxpayer benefits equally but those at the lower end will feel it much more, and are more likely spend it helping businesses by increasing disposable income and having them compete for it rather than just give them a windfall.


McGloin
The economy is driven by demand not supply. Businesses expand when they see more demand than they can fill. A tax cut for a business does not find it new customers, it just grows its bank account. Historically, business tax cuts don't go to investment but into asset and commodity bubbles, which destabilize the economy.
The Federal Reserve even pumped well over a trillion dollars into global banks after the great recession, and when asked why they didn't invest it in business expansion, they said it would be stupid to invest when demand is weak.
Supply side economics is a thirty year old scam invented by the same liars that invented the Iraq war. Cheney and Rumsfeld, with help from Laffer.
Stop the madness before it destroys the country and the world.
And the insanity


Dontforgettofloss
No matter our politics, we should all be able to agree that there are anachronisms and inefficiencies riddled throughout our entire tax code.

Why do we allow mortgage interest deductions, but not student loan interest deductions, in an age where the most productive generation are commonly forced to defer life choices (including buying first homes) because they are deep in student loan debt? Makes no sense.

The AMT was intended to make sure rich folks paid their fair share, but it was not indexed to inflation from its enactment in the late 60s until 2013! All the time, it was catching a larger and larger portion of the population and no Congressman wanted to repeal it because it was a cash cow. Well, now it hits a ton of middle class families, and its impact is higher if you live in a state with higher tax rates. That's preposterous. I'm hit by the AMT, and my tax burden is over $10,000 higher each year because my wife and I file jointly, as opposed to us getting a divorce and each filing as single (I do them both ways to see the difference). We are actually considering a divorce since our marriage costs about as much as our mortgage. This SHOULD be corrected or repealed.

We should all agitate for a fair, logical tax system.

The plan is a tax cut for the rich, and the new taxes in it, for taxing employer provided health plans, is a tax on the middle class, even with the increase to the standard deduction.

This isn't just a cut to the corporate tax rate.

He wants to eliminate the AMT.
Eliminate the inheritance tax.
Reduce the capital gains tax.

The theory that new economic growth will make up for the lost tax revenue is a fantasy which is not backed up by reality, history, or economic analysis.

It seems like he will be a primary beneficiary of his plans. America first? No, what he really means is Trump first.

Quote: billryan

Trumps tax scam is Dead On Arrival so no point fretting about it.

He's a lame duck and he hasn't even been in office 100 days.

This is why all throughout the campaign I said I never want a Republican President, but if we have to have one: I'd want it to be Donald. He's too lazy and incompetent to put in the work that needs to be done to accomplish anything significant.

The 2018 midterms would have been a bloodbath for Dems had Hillary won. Now they will have a fighting chance thanks to Donald.

Silver lining.

Quote: Dalex64

The plan is a tax cut for the rich, and the new taxes in it, for taxing employer provided health plans, is a tax on the middle class, even with the increase to the standard deduction.

This isn't just a cut to the corporate tax rate.

He wants to eliminate the AMT.
Eliminate the inheritance tax.
Reduce the capital gains tax.

The theory that new economic growth will make up for the lost tax revenue is a fantasy which is not backed up by reality, history, or economic analysis.

It seems like he will be a primary beneficiary of his plans. America first? No, what he really means is Trump first.

The dumbest part of Trump’s dumb tax plan
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-dumbest-part-of-trumps-dumb-tax-plan/2017/04/27/c621d2ac-2b7f-11e7-a616-d7c8a68c1a66_story.html?utm_term=.1f2566f34447#comments

Trump Tax Plan Would Shift Trillions From U.S. Coffers to the Richest
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/27/us/politics/individual-business-tax-wealth.html

This restores some of my faith in humanity:

People Are Trolling Trump's New Anti-Immigrant Hotline With Reports Of Space Aliens

Quote: ams288

This restores some of my faith in humanity:

People Are Trolling Trump's New Anti-Immigrant Hotline With Reports Of Space Aliens

It's funny that he has xenophobia but is married to a Bruce Jenner look-a-like from the former Yugoslavia.

Well, Donald's first 100 days are almost over.

The only accomplishment I can see is he got someone on the Supreme Court. But when you have a Republican Senate and you were given a list of acceptable candidates by your base during the campaign, is that really that much of an accomplishment on his part? Literally any Republican President would have accomplished that...

Everything else he's tried has been a miserable failure.

If you would have told me on Nov. 9th that I'd find the Trump Presidency so entertaining and enjoyable, I'd have thought you were crazy...

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Well, Donald's first 100 days are almost over.

The only accomplishment I can see is he got someone on the Supreme Court. But when you have a Republican Senate and you were given a list of acceptable candidates by your base during the campaign, is that really that much of an accomplishment on his part? Literally any Republican President would have accomplished that...

Everything else he's tried has been a miserable failure.

If you would have told me on Nov. 9th that I'd find the Trump Presidency so entertaining and enjoyable, I'd have thought you were crazy...

The racist, sexist, rapist, and scam artist Trump got BIG help with the use of Nuclear Option in the confirmation of Gorsuch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option

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Everything else he's tried has been a miserable failure.

From the date of his election, when investors knew that business crushing government regulation by a Democrat President would end, the stock market is up a bunch (15%?). You might consider that a miserable failure. I don't.

And I heard his golf game has improved as well due to all the extra rounds he has gotten in....

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From the date of his election, when investors knew that business crushing government regulation by a Democrat President would end, the stock market is up a bunch (15%?).

How much did it rise during Obama's Presidency?

Well, at least that's one armada he can keep track of.

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How much did it rise during Obama's Presidency?

140%. 210% from it's lowest point.


The Obama bull market: A 140% jump in the Dow - Jan. 10, 2017 - CNN Money:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/10/investing/obama-stock-market-trump/

I'm sure they'd tell you that it would have gone up more under a republican.

It went down over Bush's 8 years.

Up during Clinton's

http://www.macrotrends.net/2481/stock-market-performance-by-president

Down during 1st Bush

Up during Reagan. The most recent Republican where it went up.

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From the date of his election, when investors knew that business crushing government regulation by a Democrat President would end, the stock market is up a bunch (15%?). You might consider that a miserable failure. I don't.

And I heard his golf game has improved as well due to all the extra rounds he has gotten in....

Barring impeachment, please post again here on 01/20/2021 to let everyone know of the stock market performance and compare it to President Obama’s record.

You should be very proud that your hard earn tax contribution financed the racist, sexist, rapist and scam artist Trump’s EXCESSIVE golf expenses (this includes travel & Secret Service protection expenses for his EXCESSIVE golf outing). You must be very close to the racist, sexist, rapist and scam artist Trump to know his golf performance. What do you know about the racist, sexist, rapist and scam artist Trump’s sexual escapade of the past 20 years and the first 100 days in the WH? Please rate his sexual performance and golf performance. Trumpers don’t care about the racist, sexist, rapist and scam artist Trump’s tax record, but they do care about his golf vs. sex performance.

Today Donald told the NRA that "both of my sons love the outdoors."

I guess he forgot about Barron.

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Well, at least that's one armada he can keep track of.

I see a shadow behind the curtain. Hm, I wonder if SooPoo is behind that curtain, and could it be that this is where SooPoo and the racist, sexist, rapist and scam artist Trump talked about golf and other national security matters.

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From the date of his election, when investors knew that business crushing government regulation by a Democrat President would end, the stock market is up a bunch (15%?). You might consider that a miserable failure. I don't.

And I heard his golf game has improved as well due to all the extra rounds he has gotten in....

SOOPOO, with all due respect, let's please not spin facts. The AVERAGE market gain from the November thru March period since 1950 has been 9.6%. This past November thru March was 12.9%. Not that impressive.

Also, his golf game has improved because he's enhanced his cheating techniques. :-)