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March 2nd, 2019 at 9:37:46 PM permalink
Quote: Steverinos

Considering that the economy historically does better under democratics



Somebody should have told Obama's
'new normal', lol.. Problem is, they
can't point to anything specidic
Dems did to make the econmy
better. And it only goes back a
paltry 60 years.

Another Princeton economist, the noted liberal Nobel laureate Paul Krugman, wrote in his New York Times column that Blinder and Watson looked at various explanations and “found all of them wanting. There’s no indication that the Democratic advantage can be explained by better monetary and fiscal policies. Democrats seem, on average, to have had better luck than Republicans on oil prices and technological progress.”

This is what makes Trump so different.
He told us what he would do and we
can point to exactly what he did to
make the economy boom. Wrote better
trade deals, got rid of bad ones, got
rid of Obama's stifling EPA regs that
were strangling the economy.

He waved the 'magic wand' that Obama
joked he didn't have.
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March 2nd, 2019 at 10:03:49 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

double, why does it do that



Because you're clicking the button more than once when you shouldn't.
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March 2nd, 2019 at 10:04:19 PM permalink
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Quote: AZDuffman

How on earth is requiring ID to vote “voter suppression?”



If the ID is not free, it's voter suppression.
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March 2nd, 2019 at 10:49:42 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Because you're clicking the button more than once when you shouldn't.



Absolutely not. The times it's
happened I did not click twice.
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March 2nd, 2019 at 11:06:02 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Absolutely not. The times it's
happened I did not click twice.



Then i can't explain any other good reason. Any time I've duplicated here, I'm pretty sure I've hit "post" more than once out of frustration.
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March 2nd, 2019 at 11:14:59 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Then i can't explain any other good reason. Any time I've duplicated here, I'm pretty sure I've hit "post" more than once out of frustration.



I make sure I don't do that
by clicking once and putting
my hand in my lap and
waiting. That way I know
I've only clicked once.
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March 3rd, 2019 at 12:03:12 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Absolutely not. The times it's
happened I did not click twice.



A lot of folks your age think they drive okay as well. Hard to convince them otherwise.
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March 3rd, 2019 at 12:50:29 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

A lot of folks your age think they drive okay as well. Hard to convince them otherwise.



A trucking company hired an 85 year
old man as a long distance driver a
few months ago. Lots of folks your
age have no idea what'they're talking
about.

Seniors are safe drivers compared to other age groups, since they often reduce risk of injury by wearing safety belts, observing speed limits, and not drinking and driving. AAA Senior Driving

I never hit the post button twice. Ever.
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March 3rd, 2019 at 4:26:34 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

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If the ID is not free, it's voter suppression.



I have no problem with free IDs for people who don't otherwise have a valid ID.

Though I don't like the way some people vote, I am for every eligible person being able to vote during the designated voting period.

I don't like the idea of "ballot harvesting"--looking for folks who requested an absentee ballot that have yet to return it who just happen to be in the correct party and then contacting them to get their ballot in. If they can't make the effort themselves to get the ballot in with such a low bar to do so--merely having to call someone to pick it up--then they don't vote. Just the same as people who don't make the effort to vote. If I tell someone that I will pick up their ballot for them I may also be telling them how to vote...or even voting for them.
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March 3rd, 2019 at 4:27:25 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I never hit the post button twice. Ever.



I admire your perfection!
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March 3rd, 2019 at 4:56:27 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob


I never hit the post button twice. Ever.

So in over 21k posts you never hit the post button twice(perhaps three or more times?) I can't call you a liar, but let me just say, that statement is almost as absurd as Alan's 18 yo's in a row claim. Fake News comes to mind.


Quote: RonC

I admire your perfection!

So that's that what they are calling it now?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 3rd, 2019 at 7:25:40 AM permalink
Quote: RonC

Quote: tringlomane

If the ID is not free, it's voter suppression.



I have no problem with free IDs for people who don't otherwise have a valid ID.


I agree completely.

Quote:

Though I don't like the way some people vote, I am for every eligible person being able to vote during the designated voting period.


Are you ok with a non-traditional designated in-person voting periods, such as two days or an entire week? I'll qualify that even if that happened, the voting period would have to be consistent across all precincts for that election.

Quote:

I don't like the idea of "ballot harvesting"--looking for folks who requested an absentee ballot that have yet to return it who just happen to be in the correct party and then contacting them to get their ballot in. If they can't make the effort themselves to get the ballot in with such a low bar to do so--merely having to call someone to pick it up--then they don't vote. Just the same as people who don't make the effort to vote. If I tell someone that I will pick up their ballot for them I may also be telling them how to vote...or even voting for them.


Someone picking up absentee ballots is why a new election has been ordered in North Carolina.

You pointed out a couple of problems with that, telling them how to vote, voting for them.
Someone could also fail to deliver ballots marked in a way they didn't like, or intentionally overvote some races to spoil the ballot, or fill in undervotes with their own choices.
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March 3rd, 2019 at 9:51:28 AM permalink
Quote: Dalex64

Are you ok with a non-traditional designated in-person voting periods, such as two days or an entire week? I'll qualify that even if that happened, the voting period would have to be consistent across all precincts for that election.



Yes, as long as it is uniform, as you suggest. There is a cost issues, which is why early voting sites cover more precincts than election day sites...so I am not sure "how long" the period should be.

Quote: Dalex64

Someone picking up absentee ballots is why a new election has been ordered in North Carolina.



Yes, but I think it is okay in California but not in NC.

Quote: Dalex64

You pointed out a couple of problems with that, telling them how to vote, voting for them.

Someone could also fail to deliver ballots marked in a way they didn't like, or intentionally overvote some races to spoil the ballot, or fill in undervotes with their own choices.



Making sure the person voting is eligible to vote and actually doing the voting themselves is the cornerstone of a fair election.
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March 3rd, 2019 at 11:04:13 AM permalink
Quote: RonC

I admire your perfection!



Not perfection. As I said I put
my hand in my lap after hitting
'post', just to make sure. Old
habit.
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March 3rd, 2019 at 11:06:53 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

So in over 21k posts you never hit the post button twice



Maybe years and years ago, but
I forced myself to put my hand
in my lap after posting to take
care of the problem. And it's
just a few posts from 22K now.
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March 3rd, 2019 at 11:07:33 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Not perfection. As I said I put
my hand in my lap after hitting
'post', just to make sure. Old
habit.



I'm just not sure how many of us could have that perfect of a habit to keep it from happening at least once in 20k plus posts...mine happen when I hit it, then it does nothing (no movement) and I hit it again....
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March 3rd, 2019 at 11:18:44 AM permalink
Quote: RonC

I'm just not sure how many of us could have that perfect of a habit to keep it from happening at least once in 20k plus posts...mine happen when I hit it, then it does nothing (no movement) and I hit it again....



As I said, I developed the habit after
I realized I might be hitting it twice.
Now it's just muscle reflex, hand in
lap after posting.
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March 4th, 2019 at 12:28:45 PM permalink
Has Van Jones lost his mind, praising Trump
on prison reform at CPAC?

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March 4th, 2019 at 5:01:37 PM permalink
Listening to people from Trump's past
it's not so much that he lies, he embellishes
things. He's a salesman, he's always
selling you on something. He's been doing
it all his life.

The guy who wrote The Art of the Deal with
Trump, in order to understand Trump, he
spent a lot of time silently observing him in
his business dealings. He would hear a Trump
conversation with someone on the phone,
Trump would tell him what it was about, and
later the other person would tell a totally
different story. Trump usually embellished
the story to make himself look better out
of habit.

So in a way he is a con man, but a con man who
gets things done. We've all known people who
do this, I certainly have. And they've all been
salesman in their profession. They're usually
bigger than life likable people, like Trump.
Long before he was even a big celebrity, people
say he was always the center of attention in
every room. He was tall and handsome and
exuded a super confidence from every pore.
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March 4th, 2019 at 6:36:03 PM permalink
So a committee in the House has requested
documents from Trump about business matters.
Remember when Republicans requested documents
from Obama's administration? From Eric Holder,
and others? Remember how long it took to get them?

Most of the time they never got any, and the ones
they did get were months and years after they
requested them. I'm sure people in the White House
are saying they can play that game too.

Obama made it performance art, refusing to turn
over subpoenaed documents:

Obama Administration Trying to Keep 11,000 Documents Sealed ...
https://www.rollingstone.com/.../why-is-the-obama-administration-trying-to-keep-11000...

Obama admin spent $36M on lawsuits to keep info secret - CBS News
https://www.cbsnews.com/.../obama-administration-spent-36m-on-records-lawsuits-las

Obama Administration Fails to Comply with Subpoenas for Documents ...
https://naturalresources.house.gov/newsroom/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID...

Obama administration sets new record for withholding FOIA requests ...
https://www.pbs.org/.../obama-administration-sets-new-record-withholding-foia-reque...

Fast and Furious: Eric Holder held in contempt - The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fast-and...in.../gJQAaEUArV_story.html

Obama's 'Scandal-Free Administration' Is a Myth | The Heritage ...
https://www.heritage.org/political-process/.../obamas-scandal-free-administration-myt
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March 5th, 2019 at 10:15:53 AM permalink
More fake news from NBC.

"An NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll published Monday put Trump's approval rating at 46 percent among registered voters."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/04/president-donald-trumps-approval-numbers-continue-climb/3053565002/
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March 5th, 2019 at 10:20:33 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

More fake news from NBC.

"An NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll published Monday put Trump's approval rating at 46 percent among registered voters."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/04/president-donald-trumps-approval-numbers-continue-climb/3053565002/



How is this "fake news" exactly? And Trump should be thrilled with that number. But he touted Rasmussen's 52% more (not shockingly more biased in his direction)
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March 5th, 2019 at 10:31:38 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

How is this "fake news" exactly



Because it's NBC and the number is
way too high for Trump. The poll
must be fake, what is NBC up to..
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March 5th, 2019 at 10:35:17 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Because it's NBC and the number is
way too high for Trump. The poll
must be fake, what is NBC up to..



I thought by now you would have realized that Trump running and winning is just to help Hillary get elected!
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March 5th, 2019 at 10:39:37 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I thought by now you would have realized that Trump running and winning is just to help Hillary get elected!



As to Her, She's out there telling anybody
who'll listen that She's not running.

"I'm not running, but I'm going to keep on working and speaking and standing up for what I believe,"

This means of course She's running, She's
just waiting till this summer to announce
it. She'll claim the field is so weak She has
no choice.
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March 5th, 2019 at 10:47:52 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

As to Her, She's out there telling anybody
who'll listen that She's not running.

"I'm not running, but I'm going to keep on working and speaking and standing up for what I believe,"

This means of course She's running, She's
just waiting till this summer to announce
it. She'll claim the field is so weak She has
no choice.



You and I will be the only ones on this board who will not be surprised if she tries to pull a Bobby Kennedy and jump in late that way. Say she has to do it for the good of the party and country.
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March 5th, 2019 at 10:52:23 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

You and I will be the only ones on this board who will not be surprised if she tries to pull a Bobby Kennedy and jump in late that way. Say she has to do it for the good of the party and country.



Yup. The later she announces, the more time
is cut on the campaign trail. Trump didn't
announce till June, that's still 3 months away.
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March 5th, 2019 at 11:03:15 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Yup. The later she announces, the more time
is cut on the campaign trail. Trump didn't
announce till June, that's still 3 months away.



When you are as sickly as she is that is an important thing.
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March 5th, 2019 at 11:05:07 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

When you are as sickly as she is that is an important thing.



If she gets days to rest in between
appearances, she does better. The
everyday grind on the trail is what
did her in. Even with 3 hour naps
every afternoon.
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March 5th, 2019 at 11:11:26 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

If she gets days to rest in between
appearances, she does better. The
everyday grind on the trail is what
did her in. Even with 3 hour naps
every afternoon.



You would think whatever dope they keep shooting her up with would keep her going. It's not like she works hard or anything.
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March 5th, 2019 at 12:32:32 PM permalink
Why wouldn’t the “most qualified candidate” not run for president? Did she since lose those qualifications?
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March 5th, 2019 at 1:00:19 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Why wouldn’t the “most qualified candidate” not run for president? Did she since lose those qualifications?



I've asked that numerous times. How
did she go from 'most qualified in
history' to Typhoid Mary just because
she lost. She is actually more qualified
than anybody currently running, and
She knows it.
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March 5th, 2019 at 3:44:52 PM permalink
Does anyone know of a place to take action on AOC for 2028?
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March 5th, 2019 at 3:47:25 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Does anyone know of a place to take action on AOC for 2028?



Is that the year she gets out of
prison whatever money related
fraud she commits while in office?
It's already started.
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March 5th, 2019 at 4:59:53 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Is that the year she gets out of
prison whatever money related
fraud she commits while in office?
It's already started.



That's why I want some action. Figure I could get some incredible odds on the inevitable right now.😀
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March 6th, 2019 at 9:55:39 AM permalink
After the State of the Union, NYT said
Trump was lying about a border crisis.
They've changed their tune:


Border at Breaking Point as More than 76,000 Unauthorized Migrants Cross in a Month

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/05/us/border-crossing-increase.html
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March 6th, 2019 at 10:02:42 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

After the State of the Union, NYT said
Trump was lying about a border crisis.
They've changed their tune:


Border at Breaking Point as More than 76,000 Unauthorized Migrants Cross in a Month



Those of us who are informed already knew. If the NYT finally admits it then there must be a problem.
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Quote: EvenBob

After the State of the Union, NYT said
Trump was lying about a border crisis.
They've changed their tune:


Border at Breaking Point as More than 76,000 Unauthorized Migrants Cross in a Month

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/05/us/border-crossing-increase.html



Weirdly, all 76,000 of them were headed straight to Trump properties for work.
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March 6th, 2019 at 10:21:23 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman


Those of us who are informed already knew. If the NYT finally admits it then there must be a problem.



It's all over cable news, what's going on.
I thought there was no 'emergency',
now they're freaking out about an
invasion?
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March 6th, 2019 at 10:24:12 AM permalink
Read the article. It doesn't make the case for a wall.
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March 6th, 2019 at 10:31:33 AM permalink
Quote: Steverinos

Read the article. It doesn't make the case for a wall.



So what. They went from Trump lying
about a border crisis a few weeks ago,
to now admitting there is one. Yuge
big news..
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March 6th, 2019 at 10:38:59 AM permalink
Quote: Steverinos

Read the article. It doesn't make the case for a wall.



With that many attempted crossings anyone can see the need for a wall without waiting to be told we need one.

Unless you like illegal immigration that is.
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March 6th, 2019 at 11:05:06 AM permalink
Quote: ams288



Weirdly, all 76,000 of them were headed straight to Trump properties for work.



The quite pathetic attempt at an answer for someone who has no real answer.

76,000 in a month! Around 2,500 ILLEGAL crossings EVERY day! No comment, ams? Steverinos? Terapined?
Oh yeah, Trump lied about a meeting he had in 2015. Oh yeah, Trump made fun of a disabled reporter. Oh yeah, Trump used the term "pussy grab".
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March 6th, 2019 at 11:08:05 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

The quite pathetic attempt at an answer for someone who has no real answer.

76,000 in a month! Around 2,500 ILLEGAL crossings EVERY day! No comment, ams? Steverinos? Terapined?
Oh yeah, Trump lied about a meeting he had in 2015. Oh yeah, Trump made fun of a disabled reporter. Oh yeah, Trump used the term "pussy grab".



You forgot "Trump cheated on his taxes!"
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March 6th, 2019 at 11:09:04 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO



76,000 in a month! Around 2,500 ILLEGAL crossings EVERY day! No comment, ams? Steverinos? Terapined?
".



Even CNN/MS is freaking out over this,
and of course are blaming Trump for it.
lol
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March 6th, 2019 at 11:54:20 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

The quite pathetic attempt at an answer for someone who has no real answer.

76,000 in a month! Around 2,500 ILLEGAL crossings EVERY day! No comment, ams? Steverinos? Terapined?



Oh, here’s my answer:

I don’t care. Has absolutely no effect on my life. I think people who get worked up over how many people cross the border are “sad.”
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March 6th, 2019 at 11:56:06 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Oh, here’s my answer:

I don’t care. Has absolutely no effect on my life.



That you know of. Yet. It will
have a dramatic effect if the
invasion keeps up at this pace.
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March 6th, 2019 at 11:59:34 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

That you know of. Yet. It will
have a dramatic effect if the
invasion keeps up at this pace.



I’m shaking in my boots.
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March 6th, 2019 at 12:05:26 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Oh, here’s my answer:

I don’t care. Has absolutely no effect on my life. I think people who get worked up over how many people cross the border are “sad.”



No impact on your life? 30,000,000 illegal immigrants, and more coming each month, have no positive or negative influence on anything in you life?

Interesting. Good or bad, I am willing to bet that they do even if you don't see it.

**edited adding commas, but I would have thought anyone reading it would not have thought that I meant 30,000,000 per month despite the missing commas. I guess not so much...
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March 6th, 2019 at 12:07:19 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

I’m shaking in my boots.



No doubt. A lot of the Jews in Nazi
Germany felt completely safe and
were mystified when the 3am knock
of reality came at their door.

Just like the countries in EU never
saw the future coming of what they're
living with now by letting all those
unvetted immigrants in.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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