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billryan
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April 5th, 2019 at 3:42:53 PM permalink
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Finally, a billryan post I can support. Got any more?




I certainly hope not!
RonC
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April 5th, 2019 at 4:56:55 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Totally agree with billy. I would say make some edict that will alert all businesses that owners who employ illegals will effective (insert date here) be prosecuted for aiding and abetting a criminal. Allow the owners to voluntarily report all illegals by (insert date here) to be granted immunity from prosecution.



Though the two parties are not the same, they both do things for their own interests that encourage illegal immigration and discourage them from really working on the immigration problem.

Some rich Republicans want the cheap labor. Some Democrats believe that illegals, if somehow they gain citizenship, will be voters for their side.

They aren't the same, but neither of them are truly working for us when it comes right down to it.

Power over principle.
SanchoPanza
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April 5th, 2019 at 4:58:57 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Section 6103 is also what gives the Democrat who made the request the power to legally view his taxes

The crickets still sing trying to find the relevant subsection. But who cares?
worldhistoryguy
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April 5th, 2019 at 5:15:08 PM permalink
Sadly no. The reason I voted probably no is (1) full review of the Mueller report must show something the republicans/public CAN'T overlook and/or (2) a review of Trumps tax must show something illegal like tax evasion. The Dems can't do it by themselves - there must be some kind of "golden moment" where a few powerful republicans need to walk into Trumps office and say "we can't support you any longer. In other words, what happened to Nixon needs to happen to Trump. A case could be made for incompetence but to make it stick, Pence must agree. I do not see that happening - if Pence agrees that Trump is a wacko, and if it turns out that Trump is not impeached due to incompetence, then Pence has kissed his career goodbye.


Now to the important part, :):) where can I find a forum that discusses online casino craps betting? For example, when a dollar is bet on the DONT, the online folks do not allow the normal $6 odds bet, Instead, they allow only $3 for the 4/10, $4 for the 4/9 and $5 for the 6/8. If $2 is bet, The above can be doubled but still is incorrect.

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April 5th, 2019 at 5:48:24 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

INS Agents raided a Texas factory and arrested almost 300 workers, most of whom they suspect of being illegals.
Why not arrest the factory owners and the people who did the hiring? The workers are here trying to support their families. The owners and supervisors are operating out of greed. Throw a couple of millionaire business owners in jail and the problem will solve itself.



Not a bad idea. Letís also throw government officials who give them drivers licenses, welfare, and schooling in the can as well. Need that to really solve things.
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petroglyph
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April 5th, 2019 at 5:58:22 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Not a bad idea. Letís also throw government officials who give them drivers licenses, welfare, and schooling in the can as well. Need that to really solve things.

I don't understand why you don't want them to have driver licenses?
I think it's a positive, they'd have to at least read the manual once instead of just driving like they do now. Several bits of info are taken, that would help the law if need be. And hopefully more would care enough about being able to keep their license that they would have insurance?
What's the down side, on driver licenses?
TomG
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April 5th, 2019 at 6:29:03 PM permalink
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Quote: TomG

This sounds like the exact opposite of what a Drained Swamp would do.

Forensic accountants say Trump's tax return is at least 300 pages
long. Would you want that scrutinized by the world if you were president? You'd be nuts to release it.



Because I have nothing to hide, don't want to contribute to government waste, and don't care about you calling me names I would have no problem showing my tax returns to the public. Because Trump has things to hide, wants the government to be wasteful, and is overly sensitive to being called names, he keeps his hidden
TomG
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April 5th, 2019 at 6:36:25 PM permalink
Quote: RonC

Some rich Republicans want the cheap labor. Some Democrats believe that illegals, if somehow they gain citizenship, will be voters for their side.



There is one Republicans who knows that the more illegal immigrants there are, the better they are able to vilify them for votes. It's why even after being president for years, the border stays open, the rich people giving them jobs go free, and they continue to collect their welfare checks. Build a wall around the welfare state and arrest anyone who hires an illegal immigrant and the entire platform of a certain politician falls apart.
Boz
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April 5th, 2019 at 6:50:56 PM permalink
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Hey mods, doesn't this violate the new hate speech rule?




So we are no longer allowed to "hate" an ideology?

The post does not cast any aspersions upon any individual - merely an ideology



An ideology that many members of the board adhere to.

If I were to say "All righties are mentally ill" (I'm not saying that) you can be sure RS, Boz, Axel etc. would be PMing the mods so quick your head would spin.



I can tell you I have NEVER Pmíd A Mod asking for anyone to be suspended. And I allow any Mod who has proof otherwise to post the non existent post.

I have publicly questioned the interpretation of certain rules in threads, including recently your hate post about Nick Sandman. Itís nice to know what the rules ďpossibly ď are before making a post.
AZDuffman
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April 5th, 2019 at 7:06:48 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

I don't understand why you don't want them to have driver licenses?
I think it's a positive, they'd have to at least read the manual once instead of just driving like they do now. Several bits of info are taken, that would help the law if need be. And hopefully more would care enough about being able to keep their license that they would have insurance?
What's the down side, on driver licenses?




Well, call me crazy, but where I come from it is just stupid to reward someone here illegally with the privilege of a drivers license. Lets not forget, with motor voter it makes voter fraud via illegal aliens easier. Add in that this is a form of ID, so they can take a legit job from an American or someone else here legally easier.

Frankly, I see no upside, unless one favors open borders.
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