Will Trump Be Impeached ?
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Quote: rainmanI sure am glad he is keeping his promise of making
Mexico pay for the wall so we don't have to.
I sure am glad Obama kept his
promise we could keep our
current plan and current doctor.
Quote: EvenBobI sure am glad Obama kept his
promise we could keep our
current plan and current doctor.
He did! provisional rules were implemented to allow it.. and it's still happening to this day. Look up "grandmothering".
Quote: rsactuaryHe did! provisional rules were implemented to allow it.. and it's still happening to this day. Look up "grandmothering".
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"Grandfather"
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Quote: SteverinosIt's always so easy to detect a copy/paste post from EB.
In college it was called plagiarism and you got expelled for it.
Here it’s called “people make fun of my sources, WAAAAAH!” and we are all supposed to ignore it.
Quote: EvenBobI sure am glad Obama kept his
promise we could keep our
current plan and current doctor.
I'm not on team Obama, He is ancient history lets focus on
the people who are currently driving the bus not retirees,
And I did keep my health plan.
Quote: rxwineIs EB auditioning for a position of the next Roger Stone? He's never giving up on his man Trump no matter what.
If I could figure out why I would be
against him, that would be the first
step. I love everything about him.
Quote: EvenBobI love everything about him.
So does this guy:
Quote: ams288So does this guy:
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Trump did everything I wanted him to
do, get the economy going and
build the wall. He'll be reelected
in a landslide if the Dems don't
find somebody who a centrist
to run. This is 1984 all over again.
Reagan took 49 states and the Left
hated him every bit as much as
they hate Trump. Hatred loses
elections.
"Ronald Reagan won the election by a huge landslide (winning 49 out of 50 states). This election received the highest electoral votes towards any presidential nominee in American history. It is the lowest electoral vote for a Democratic nominee and the highest for a Republican to date."
Quote: EvenBobHe'll be reelected
in a landslide if the Dems don't
find somebody who a centrist
to run. This is 1984 all over again.
Reagan took 49 states and the Left
hated him every bit as much as
they hate Trump. Hatred loses
elections
EvenBob’s political forecasts are always wrong, so this gives me hope for 2020.
Quote: ams288EvenBob’s political forecasts are always wrong, so this gives me hope for 2020.
Yeah, I picked Hillary in 16, big
mistake. How can I ever live that
down. Nixon won 49 states in
1972 for the same reason Reagan
did.
The Dems lurched to the far Left,
just like they're doing now. As a
poll just showed, in only 6 states
are there more Liberals than there
are Conservatives. This means a
candidate has to be in the middle
to even have a chance of winning.
Name somebody who's a centrist
running on the Dem side, there isn't
one.
Quote: EvenBobYeah, I picked Hillary in 16, big
mistake. How can I ever live that
down. Nixon won 49 states in
1992 for the same reason Reagan
did.
The Dems lurched to the far Left,
just like they're doing now. As a
poll just showed, in only 6 states
are there more Liberals than there
are Conservatives. This means a
candidate has to be in the middle
to even have a chance of winning.
Name somebody who's a centrist
running on the Dem side, there isn't
one.
Nixon won in 92?
I always suspected you lived in an alternate universe
Quote: EvenBobAs a
poll just showed, in only 6 states
are there more Liberals than there
are Conservatives.
We call you a cherry picker in basketball, somebody who doesn't try hard and just looks for the easy buckets.
It's almost as if you aren't aware that in the same poll you keep citing, the national advantage in ideological affiliation for conservatives is 9 points, DOWN from 21 points in 2004.
Yes, I'm aware that we elect our Presidents via the salvery-era Electoral College. But the movement to ice this obsolete way of electing our POTUS is gaining steam. LONG overdue.
Quote: EvenBobThis is 1984 all over again.
You got that right, it's an absolute dystopia!
Quote: SteverinosWe call you a cherry picker in basketball, somebody who doesn't try hard and just looks for the easy buckets.
It's almost as if you aren't aware that in the same poll you keep citing, the national advantage in ideological affiliation for conservatives is 9 points, DOWN from 21 points in 2004.
Yes, I'm aware that we elect our Presidents via the salvery-era Electoral College. But the movement to ice this obsolete way of electing our POTUS is gaining steam. LONG overdue.
An end run around the constitution is long overdue?
Any state that joins that compact is crazy.
Quote: SteverinosWe call you a cherry picker in basketball, somebody who doesn't try hard and just looks for the easy buckets.
It's almost as if you aren't aware that in the same poll you keep citing, the national advantage in ideological affiliation for conservatives is 9 points, DOWN from 21 points in 2004.
Yes, I'm aware that we elect our Presidents via the salvery-era Electoral College. But the movement to ice this obsolete way of electing our POTUS is gaining steam. LONG overdue.
If the compact gains strength and is put into effect, I suspect it will fail once a President is elected using this method who was defeated in several of the member states. The people, and legislators, of a State will not long be willing to lose their impact in the general election.
What about the small states and rural areas you ask? Think about how our current system leaves no incentive for candidates to campaign where the result is a foregone conclusion. More people live in rural counties in California, New York, and Illinois that are solidly red than live in Wyoming, Montana, the Dakotas, and my home state of Alaska, which haven't voted for a Democratic candidate in decades. In a popular vote system, Republicans would have every incentive to mobilize. But in a fight for electoral votes, those minorities are irrelevant, which hinders voter enthusiasm and leads to less engagement in our process. A republican might actually go after New England while a Democrat might do the same in the Deep South.
There's absolutely no reason to reconsider how we do this other than "well, it's the way we've always done it". Well guess what, just because it's the way we've always done it doesn't mean its the best way to do it. At one point, it might've been, for a host of reasons (I contest it wasn't and never has been the best way), but we have to be willing to adopt to new circumstances and new times.
This is just one of a plethora of reasons why the GOP is considered the "party of no".
What’s wrong with that? The far left Dems are simpling offering a bribe to the American people, vote for us and we will give you free education, free housing, free healthcare, free time off, guaranteed living wage etc. Oh and don’t worry about paying for it. We’re just going to tax this rich guy over here who doesn’t pay his fair share. The electorate is changing. Millennials and minority’s are making up a larger percentage of the voters. Millennials are stupid and live in a fantasy world they learned about in college. It will take another 20 years till they figure out the government isn’t going to give them anything. Once they accumulate career and money and realize it was from their hard work, they may turn back to the right. Democrats want open borders and no voter id laws. Figure it out yet?Quote: EvenBob....The Dems lurched to the far Left,
just like they're doing now.....
Obama was no centrist and he won in 2 landslides. Klobuchar is trying to come off as a more reasonable Democrat. She’s going nowhere.
Quote: SteverinosYes, I'm aware that we elect our Presidents via the salvery-era Electoral College. But the movement to ice this obsolete way of electing our POTUS is gaining steam. LONG overdue.
It will never fly for the same reason
the EC was originally put in place.
The writers knew if it was left to
the popular vote, every president
would be elected by the politics
of the large urban centers, like
NYC, Boston and Philly.
So they made it work so everybody
had a vote that counted. With a
popular vote, every election would
be settled by NYC, Chi, and LA.
If CO votes to go around the law,
they just won't count any of their
votes in the election.
Quote: EvenBobSo they made it work so everybody
had a vote that counted.
I live in Alaska. Explain to me how my vote counts when a winner is declared before I have even cast my vote. Explain to republican voters in rural California that their vote counts.
Quote: SteverinosI live in Alaska. Explain to me how my vote counts when a winner is declared before I have even cast my vote. Explain to republican voters in rural California that their vote counts.
The electoral college is like permanently instituted affirmative action for voting.
Heidi Heitkamp was Sen from ND 2012-2018. Jon Tester is Sen from MT. Both Democrats.
Democrats are in favor of neither open borders nor no voter id laws. Only Republicans lying about what Democrats want make that claim, because of Democratic protests over voter suppression actions by Republican controlled states and local jurisdictions.
Quote: beachbumbabsDemocrats are in favor of neither open borders
Why won't Pelosi let Trump have money for
the wall, then. Walls work. Ask the Vatican,
ask Israel. There is a fence along the entire
Russian border to Norway and Finland, built
by the Soviet Union.
There are 77 long border walls or fences or
barriers around the world with more added
all the time. They work, are cheap, and easy
to guard. Easy peasy solution to our border
problem. Walls are only immoral to the
people trying to climb over them to break
a law.
Really? Cause I'm in Maryland (a Democrat state) where I have to show my id when I pick up my free tupperware set from the casino but not when I go vote. You can literally walk into a voting place and say you're somebody else and they would let you vote. That's how easy it is. Now they just passed same day registration. I'm sure that's not going to be taken advantage of at all.Quote: beachbumbabsSome factual corrections.
Heidi Heitkamp was Sen from ND 2012-2018. Jon Tester is Sen from MT. Both Democrats.
Democrats are in favor of neither open borders nor no voter id laws. Only Republicans lying about what Democrats want make that claim, because of Democratic protests over voter suppression actions by Republican controlled states and local jurisdictions.
I have not heard one Democrat lately say anybody at the border or caught illegally crossing should not be let in.
Quote: SteverinosFor four months. Not two years.
To be fair I also don't debate with people who toss cigarette butts out their car window. They are a lost cause. What would drive someone to throw fire out the window is beyond me.
“I think the New Green Deal or whatever the hell they call it — the Green New Deal — I encourage it. I think it’s really something that they should promote. They should work hard on it. … No planes, no energy. When the wind stops blowing that’s the end of your electric. Let’s hurry up. Darling, is the wind blowing today? I’d like to watch television, darling.”
Quote: EvenBobTrump killed at CPAC today:
“I think the New Green Deal or whatever the hell they call it — the Green New Deal — I encourage it. I think it’s really something that they should promote. They should work hard on it. … No planes, no energy. When the wind stops blowing that’s the end of your electric. Let’s hurry up. Darling, is the wind blowing today? I’d like to watch television, darling.”
Damn. And I thought the free world was saved when you said Trump was killed.
But you meant metaphorically
Guess lies and totalitarianism will continue
Quote: darkoz
Guess lies and totalitarianism will continue
I know you'd rather have a Hillary
stagnant economy, a tanked stock
market, double digit unemployment,
a open border with no ICE, businesses
shuttered up and closed, no hope in
the 'new normal'. Cheer up, a Dem
is bound to be elected some day
and you'll have all that.
Quote: EvenBobWhy won't Pelosi let Trump have money for
the wall, then.
Because she’s not a Mexican!!! Why should she have to pay for it? That’s not what he promised at every single rally...
Quote: ams288Because she’s not a Mexican!!! Why should she have to pay for it? .
I meant the real reason, not the
sarcastic one. Trump has 6
more years to make the Mexicans
pay.
Quote: EvenBobI meant the real reason, not the
sarcastic one. Trump has 6
more years to make the Mexicans
pay.
Counting your chickens before they hatch I think
Quote: darkozCounting your chickens before they hatch I think
They better find somebody to run
who can win, they haven't found
them yet.
Quote: MaxPenI don't think Trump wants another 4 years.
Is that why he's raised over $106 mil
for his reelection as of last Oct?
Donald Trump's 2020 Fundraising Haul is Totally and Completely Unprecedented
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/16/politics/donald-trump-fundraising/index.html
At the same time in Obama 2nd
run, he'd raised $4mil.
Quote: EvenBobIs that why he's raised over $106 mil
for his reelection as of last Oct?
Can Putin's boy win again? Time will tell.
It's ok if he doesn't. If he knew then what he knows now about the biased media coverage 90/10 against him, he may have handled things differently. Right now, the economy, jobs, housing, NoKo relations to mention a few are on the right track. Even if he does nothing for 22 months, I was ok with him stepping into a position of power without a political background. Eisenhower was the last one to become president without a political past and he served two terms quite successfully. As for Trump, I wouldn't blame him if he decided to return to his private life and focus on his final years as a civilian. Unfortunately, he's damned if he does something and damned if he does nothing. The media has tried to lynch him because stories sell and he's getting all of the attention. That equates to big bucks for all news organizations, right and left. At 72, he's very competitive and wants the country to succeed. I don't agree with some of his personal issues but he's doing well politically and that's what presidents are elected for. Bottom line, hes been quite up front about what the important issues are and how to address them. Question is: what will the mainstream media do without him?
Quote: MaxPenI don't think Trump wants another 4 years.
I think you're being sarcastic, and I think Trump would accept "President for Life" like Xi Jinping accepted if it was offered to him. But I suck at internet sarcasm, so just in case...
Even if this was true in part of his mind, Trump's ego wouldn't allow him to decline renomination.
Quote: mikeabiomed]I don't think Trump wants another 4 years.
It's ok if he doesn't.
He's running. He even registered the
new slogan, 'Keep America Great',
MAGA is retiring.
"Trump has confirmed in several stump speeches, that the slogan for the 2020 race will be changed from "Make America Great Again" to "Keep America Great".
"On November 7, 2018, Trump confirmed that Mike Pence would be his vice presidential running mate in 2020"
He's running, don't doubt it.
Quote: tringlomaneTrump's ego wouldn't allow him to decline renomination.
And Obama or Bush or Clinton
or Reagan or Carter or Nixon,
their giant ego's would let
them turn it down? To run for
president you better have a
monstrous ego or you're toast.
Quote: EvenBobHe's running. He even registered the
new slogan, 'Keep America Great',
MAGA is retiring.
"Trump has confirmed in several stump speeches, that the slogan for the 2020 race will be changed from "Make America Great Again" to "Keep America Great".
"On November 7, 2018, Trump confirmed that Mike Pence would be his vice presidential running mate in 2020"
He's running, don't doubt it.
I know he's running EB but my main point was that I would understand if something changed in the next year or so. I want him to ride it out and win. There is no one more qualified on either side.
Quote: beachbumbabsSome factual corrections.
Heidi Heitkamp was Sen from ND 2012-2018. Jon Tester is Sen from MT. Both Democrats.
Democrats are in favor of neither open borders nor no voter id laws. Only Republicans lying about what Democrats want make that claim, because of Democratic protests over voter suppression actions by Republican controlled states and local jurisdictions.
How on earth is requiring ID to vote “voter suppression?”
Quote: EvenBobTo run for
president you better have a
monstrous ego or you're toast.
Pretty sure when the AGs get through with him, he'll be running as toast if he runs at all.
Quote: rxwineAnd frankly, all the stuff he did was prior to the midterms. Should have helped him then, but sure doesn't look like it. Best not get your hopes up.
That's why he's raised over $100mil,
most all it of from small voting donors.
Because he's doing so poorly with his
base. Again, Obama raised $4 mil,
Trump $106mil. Try and wrap your
brain around it and draw conclusions.
Quote: EvenBobThat's why he's raised over $100mil,
most all it of from small voting donors.
Because he's doing so poorly with his
base. Again, Obama raised $4 mil,
Trump $106mil. Try and wrap your
brain around it and draw conclusions.
Im certain he is inflating his numbers just like he cheated the banks and IRS
He probably raised more like 1.6 million and added a few zeroes
Quote: EvenBob. Again, Obama raised $4 mil,
Trump $106mil. Try and wrap your
brain around it and draw conclusions.
Trump needs all the help he can get.
Quote: darkozIm certain he is inflating his numbers just like he cheated the banks and IRS
He probably raised more like 1.6 million and added a few zeroes
Is being off by a zero or two really that big of a deal?😀
Quote: EvenBobI know you'd rather have a Hillary
stagnant economy, a tanked stock
market, double digit unemployment,
a open border with no ICE, businesses
shuttered up and closed, no hope in
the 'new normal'. Cheer up, a Dem
is bound to be elected some day
and you'll have all that.
Considering that the economy historically does better under democratics by every measurement you just listed, it appears you have absolutely no idea what you are taking about.
http://presidentialdata.org
Oh and there’s this gem. I think this was his second time being a democrat:
Now we could actually start to have a real debate and admit that presidents don’t have as much impact on the economy as we’d typically think, and that their biggest impacts come at times of crisis, but that would require you to actually think about this is a rational and non-biased way. Give it a shot some time.
Quote: darkozIm certain he is inflating his numbers
Yeah, he has nothing to do with
numbers. All this stuff is legally
reported and watched. Every
dime that goes in or out is
monitored by the Federal Election
Commission (FEC). They report
on money raised.
