JohnnyQ
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November 5th, 2015 at 6:33:26 PM permalink
So sure, Vegas is a Nice Place to Visit, BUT would you actually want to Live there ? ? ?

I think I might. Someday.

Or I would at least like to give it a try and see what is is like for a year. I can also envision being bored with it after a while, so I think it would make sense to rent an apartment or condo for a few months, or even a year, to really be sure, before buying something. (I also don't think I would sell the current house, which would give me the freedom to NOT make Vegas permanent).

From a number of hours of web surfing, it looks like a good 2+ bedroom apartment would be $ 1000 or more per month. I would want resort style amenities, club house, nice pools, etc.

One thing that comes to mind is that kind of $, over the course of a year, would equate to quite a number of hotel nights, for the ones I couldn't get comped or at a deep discount. But that would be a pretty nomadic lifestyle, at least more than I think I would be happy with.

To cut expenses, an option would be to talk my brother into splitting the rent with me, but I have a suspicion that Mrs. Q would veto that arrangement.

So, it's been fun to think about this, but for right now this is just dreamin'. I'm not ready to wrap up my career in the cubicle farm just yet.
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mason2386
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November 5th, 2015 at 7:09:09 PM permalink
I intend to retire in a little over 7 years and plan to retire in Las Vegas. World class food, museums, international airport, incredible entertainment and oh yeah, the gaming that is offered for entertainment. Plus the cost of living is a hell of alot cheaper than where I reside now.
SiegfriedRoy
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November 5th, 2015 at 7:46:27 PM permalink
I used to live in Vegas for 4 years. Despite the low cost of living as mentioned by mason2386, I didn't like it. I like visiting and vacationing Vegas much better now. I think the school district is terrible and a lot of people my age had service jobs, so they had very irregular hours. It was tough to find friends my age who were not a gamble-holic, drug-addict, or living at "mom's." HOWEVER, I did see lots of retired couples enjoying themselves. They had the routine down. They'd wake up early, look for some cool coupons, go spend half a day playing bingo or low limit slots at a station casino, and eat cheap. I am 30 years away from retirement, but I'd put Vegas in my top 3 places I'd want to retire as long as it doesn't change much.
TwoFeathersATL
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November 5th, 2015 at 8:01:48 PM permalink
Quote: mason2386

I intend to retire in a little over 7 years and plan to retire in Las Vegas. World class food, museums, international airport, incredible entertainment and oh yeah, the gaming that is offered for entertainment. Plus the cost of living is a hell of alot cheaper than where I reside now.


Don't know where you live now but the cost of living isn't cheap in Vegas.
OK, that was just an impression, so I looked at some site, 130 cities 'in the Americas' ranked by consumer price index. No doubt other sites would give different rankings.
Vegas was ranked 58 out of 130, not as bad as I would have guessed.
Hamilton Bermuda - 1 (no wonder the food is so expensive there, and often inedible)
Caracas Venezuala - 2 ( maybe because you have to hire private security?)
Honolulu, NYC, Ancorage, Frisco, Stamford Ct, and DC are 4-9. What the hell is w/Stamford?
Seattle and Cleveland 13 and 14. Cleveland?
Boston 21, Philly 24, Knoxville Tn 17, Knoxville?
Miami 40, Chicago 57, Los Angeles 96, 96?
Detroit 81, I thought they would pay you to move to Detroit, +EV I thought.
Dallas is stuck in the 69 position ;-) Atlanta 75, Tampa 76

Maybe I need to check out a couple of other sites but
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coilman
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November 5th, 2015 at 8:21:21 PM permalink
Detroit auto insurance rates I hear are INSANE.... auto theft is crazy there

For example, the average driver in Maine pays just $889 per year for car insurance, while a driver in Detroit, the nation's priciest city, pays a whopping $5,941 per year. But Detroit isn't the only place in the U.S. where people need to empty their wallets to cover their cars.

http://money.howstuffworks.com/personal-finance/auto-insurance/5-states-with-high-auto-insurance-rates.htm
AxelWolf
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November 5th, 2015 at 9:57:38 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

So sure, Vegas is a Nice Place to Visit, BUT would you actually want to Live there ? ? ?

I think I might. Someday.

Or I would at least like to give it a try and see what is is like for a year. I can also envision being bored with it after a while, so I think it would make sense to rent an apartment or condo for a few months, or even a year, to really be sure, before buying something. (I also don't think I would sell the current house, which would give me the freedom to NOT make Vegas permanent).

From a number of hours of web surfing, it looks like a good 2+ bedroom apartment would be $ 1000 or more per month. I would want resort style amenities, club house, nice pools, etc.

One thing that comes to mind is that that kind of $, over the course of a year, would equate to quite a number of hotel nights, for the ones I couldn't get comped or at a deep discount. But that would be a pretty nomadic lifestyle, at least more than I think I would be happy with.

To cut expenses, an option would be to talk my brother into splitting the rent with me, but I have a suspicion that Mrs. Q would veto that arrangement.

So, it's been fun to think about this, but for right now this is just dreamin'. I'm not ready to wrap up my career in the cubicle farm just yet.

If you have options it's a terrible Idea IMO. Get a summer rental in Lake Tahoe or something.
The summers here suck, every time you go outside it's torture. The scenery sucks, the traffic is getting bad. You may need to learn Spanish.

If you have lots of money and love to gamble all day, bet sports and seek a party/nightlife and don't care about the outdoors, it's a great place.

If something has the option to make a good living in Vegas and you can live in a nice community I say go for it. If they enjoy gambling to much then I say stay away especially if they play -EV stuff.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
stephen.hall
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November 5th, 2015 at 11:48:39 PM permalink
I lived here from 95-2010,moved to L.A. for five years then returned.I think it is a good fun place to retire but the younger people do get sucked in by the 24hr drinking,gambling + drugs.Wages are low for the most part.Those cushy swing shift valet parking jobs are impossible to get you will probably start working overnight in Jean just to gain experience for a CV.There is no job security here and as most games are -Ev don't expect to make $$$ from the casinos.

It is better to live central as there really isn't much happening in the suburbs.
kewlj
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November 6th, 2015 at 12:17:15 AM permalink
Quote: stephen.hall


It is better to live central as there really isn't much happening in the suburbs.



I think that is the whole idea of suburbs. :)

I love Vegas. Been here 6 years and not leaving anytime soon.

Despite the data that 2F is looking at, cost of living in Vegas is cheaper than most places. And if you are coming from California, Chicago, or some of the east coast big cities, you will find cost of living MUCH cheaper. If you are buying a home, much cheaper than most other markets (for an equivalent property). If you are renting, rents have increased in past couple of years but still lower than most other markets. Just be sure you are picking a decent area as there are many low rent districts throughout the valley and they are low rent for a reason.

My first 2 and half years here, I was in a high rise condo a block off mid-strip. That is pretty exciting for a while (I was in my mid/late 20's at the time), but it does grow old after a while. I now live in Vegas's version of the suburbs about 8-9 miles from the strip in a single family home.

Obviously weather is an issue, HOT in the summer, but nice the other 9 months. I guess if you work or have to spend a good deal of time outside, summers would be unbearable. I don't HAVE to spend time outside and between AC everywhere you go, and my swimming pool, I don't even find summers that bad anymore.

On the negative side, Vegas is a big city and we have a lot of crime. We also have a lot of homelessness. All big cities do. I came from Philadelphia, but Vegas homelessness seems to be much worse. There is actually several levels of homelessness here. Hardcore homeless literally sleeping on the streets, and then a more 'transient crowd' that bounce around between shelters and the many, many weekly rental type places.
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EvenBob
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November 6th, 2015 at 12:28:49 AM permalink
Quote:

BUT would you actually want to Live there ?



Cutting to the chase, Vegas is an armpit,
you don't want to live there unless you
have to. It has no redeeming features
at all. It's hot, it's ugly, it has huge crime,
it sucks. The only people who like it
make money from the casinos. If that's
not you, look elsewhere.

You're welcome.
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MrV
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November 6th, 2015 at 12:36:42 AM permalink
I suppose it depends in part what you are used to, and what you want out of a home town.

Since I spend a fair amount of time working on and repairing cars at home, I need to live near a city that has good choices for auto parts, machine shops, and repair.

Skiing is important, so I need to live near mountains with ski areas.

A variety of used book stores is a necessity, as is very good health care.

Gambling

You can find that pretty much anywhere.
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