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Wizardofnothing
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September 14th, 2015 at 4:33:56 PM permalink
I'm curious about this is one way. I'm thinking the mindset of some of these people at the casino say screw it we will break the law just so we can get his real name- Once the cat is out of the bag the player is screwed you can't undo the damage 400k could be light for the damage caused to future jncone
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JohnnyQ
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September 14th, 2015 at 5:02:52 PM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

He should end up with a good payday for this,

AGREE !

Quote: Hunterhill

however he should have left without cashing out.

DISAGREE. The casino should follow the regulations established by the Nevada Gaming Commission. Just cash him out. AND everyone in the Casino industry should know you cannot illegally detain someone.
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Hunterhill
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September 14th, 2015 at 5:34:37 PM permalink
Not cashing out isn't about regulations. It's about getting out the door and giving them less time for a confrontation. Come back and cash out at another time.If you're not an AP then this doesn't apply to you.
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darkoz
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September 14th, 2015 at 5:52:57 PM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

Not cashing out isn't about regulations. It's about getting out the door and giving them less time for a confrontation. Come back and cash out at another time.If you're not an AP then this doesn't apply to you.



I understand you are referring to a survival move for an AP and there is merit but the casino should also follow regulations. There may be reasons one feels they should cash out immediately. They may be short on bankroll and want to move comfortably onto another casino without cash tied up or they may not trust someone else to cash out for them later. Obviously just coming back the next day isn't helpful as that may be too soon.

There are also other issues like the possibility that cashing out smaller increments over time could be misconstrued as an attempt at structuring.

I personally feel I want to get my money out as soon as possible and not walk around with what is potentially worthless plastic. The casino is in violation here of regulations and civil laws.
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Mission146
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September 14th, 2015 at 7:03:02 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard




I agree, should be an easy victory, just a question of the amount. I'd take the over on 200K. My line is 400K.



I'll take the under 400k for $20, Even Money, no juice, $399000-$401000 is a push.

Oh, that's your line. How about $20 on the Under to win $19.75?
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EvenBob
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September 14th, 2015 at 7:11:03 PM permalink
In Reno they demanded ID from the guy
when he was in line checking in? Just wait
10min, he'll have to show ID to get the
comped room. What morons.
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SanchoPanza
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September 14th, 2015 at 7:37:06 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

So let's see... $2800 per year, say he counts for 30 years. Well that comes out to be a LIFETIME WIN from the Hard Rock of $84,000.

Hard Rock hasn't been open even close to 30 years.
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September 14th, 2015 at 8:43:59 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

I understand you are referring to a survival move for an AP and there is merit but the casino should also follow regulations. There may be reasons one feels they should cash out immediately. They may be short on bankroll and want to move comfortably onto another casino without cash tied up or they may not trust someone else to cash out for them later. Obviously just coming back the next day isn't helpful as that may be too soon.

There are also other issues like the possibility that cashing out smaller increments over time could be misconstrued as an attempt at structuring.

I personally feel I want to get my money out as soon as possible and not walk around with what is potentially worthless plastic. The casino is in violation here of regulations and civil laws.



Coming back the next day probably would be helpful, I've went into an establishment the day after 86'ing to cash chips with zero issues. They're not immediately onto you the moment you walk in the door.

Not only does leaving without cashout when you sense heat avoid the confrontation in most cases, but the best photo they will ever get of you will come at the cage for future reference, theyll have to deal with a poorer photo if they don't know you're at the cage when cashing out later. This is standard operating procedure and something 99%+ of experienced table games AP's will do under the circumstances. I can understand a different viewpoint coming from a machine player.
kewlj
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September 14th, 2015 at 10:20:27 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard


I agree, should be an easy victory, just a question of the amount. I'd take the over on 200K. My line is 400K.



I think it will be under 400k. This is such a blatant case with numerous major violations, illegal arrest, illegal detention, illegal search, theft of property, that I would be very surprised if Hard Rock didn't settle this case as quickly as possible. Why compound the very bad situation with costly legal fight and continuing bad publicity. You cut your losses and move on. Well, that's what I would do in that situation, but the casino industry rarely seems to see things the way I do. :/
MaxPen
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September 14th, 2015 at 10:36:26 PM permalink
Put me in the settled for 250K camp.
I am willing to wager up to 100 on the under 400K. If you want the action let me know.

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