Ibeatyouraces
Ibeatyouraces
Joined: Jan 12, 2010
  • Threads: 68
  • Posts: 11933
June 29th, 2015 at 2:07:42 AM permalink
I found this sign posted by couple of ticket redemption machines at Aria.



To me, this says that casinos in Nevada cannot bar nor use any form of counter-measures against and casino patrons. And this includes AP's. What do any of you think?
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
beachbumbabs
Administrator
beachbumbabs
Joined: May 21, 2013
  • Threads: 99
  • Posts: 14234
June 29th, 2015 at 2:23:58 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I found this sign posted by couple of ticket redemption machines at Aria.



To me, this says that casinos in Nevada cannot bar nor use any form of counter-measures against and casino patrons. And this includes AP's. What do any of you think?



IANAL, but to me it means that, as people were speculating in another thread, they can't charge admission to a place with gaming if you're there to gamble (IE a strip club with machines or tables and a cover charge), and you can't have gaming in a private club requiring membership for admittance. I don't see it as prohibiting any counter measures, and I don't think it means that individuals can't be barred from particular games or trespassed for cause. I could easily be wrong.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
Ibeatyouraces
Ibeatyouraces
Joined: Jan 12, 2010
  • Threads: 68
  • Posts: 11933
June 29th, 2015 at 2:28:09 AM permalink
Telling me that I must leave, can't play certain games, or flat being me ARE restrictions which this law supposedly outlaws. SCOTUS, here we come!! :-)~
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
FleaStiff
FleaStiff
Joined: Oct 19, 2009
  • Threads: 265
  • Posts: 14484
June 29th, 2015 at 4:02:01 AM permalink
all it means is that they can have High Limit rooms , low limit rooms, cleavage tax rooms, Pineapple rooms, and two drink minimum rooms, ... but if there is gambling in them, then there can be no general limitation upon entry. so you walk into a high limit room even if you are fleastiff, you can walk into the pineapple room even if you don't care for pineapple and if there is gambling equipment inside the two drink minimum room you don't have to order the two drink minimums. Licensees must be open and welcome the general public, not Pineapple club members, or amateur strippers or tall, dark and handsome males.

they can still exclude you for doubling your bet at the five dollar table, or whatever they want to.
ThatDonGuy
ThatDonGuy
Joined: Jun 22, 2011
  • Threads: 110
  • Posts: 5418
June 29th, 2015 at 6:54:12 AM permalink
You might want to read the entire law:

Quote: Nevada Revised Statue 463.0129

NRS 463.0129 Public policy of state concerning gaming; license or approval revocable privilege.

1. The Legislature hereby finds, and declares to be the public policy of this state, that:

(a) The gaming industry is vitally important to the economy of the State and the general welfare of the inhabitants.

(b) The continued growth and success of gaming is dependent upon public confidence and trust that licensed gaming and the manufacture, sale and distribution of gaming devices and associated equipment are conducted honestly and competitively, that establishments which hold restricted and nonrestricted licenses where gaming is conducted and where gambling devices are operated do not unduly impact the quality of life enjoyed by residents of the surrounding neighborhoods, that the rights of the creditors of licensees are protected and that gaming is free from criminal and corruptive elements.

(c) Public confidence and trust can only be maintained by strict regulation of all persons, locations, practices, associations and activities related to the operation of licensed gaming establishments, the manufacture, sale or distribution of gaming devices and associated equipment and the operation of inter-casino linked systems.

(d) All establishments where gaming is conducted and where gaming devices are operated, and manufacturers, sellers and distributors of certain gaming devices and equipment, and operators of inter-casino linked systems must therefore be licensed, controlled and assisted to protect the public health, safety, morals, good order and general welfare of the inhabitants of the State, to foster the stability and success of gaming and to preserve the competitive economy and policies of free competition of the State of Nevada.

(e) To ensure that gaming is conducted honestly, competitively and free of criminal and corruptive elements, all gaming establishments in this state must remain open to the general public and the access of the general public to gaming activities must not be restricted in any manner except as provided by the Legislature.

2. No applicant for a license or other affirmative commission approval has any right to a license or the granting of the approval sought. Any license issued or other commission approval granted pursuant to the provisions of this chapter or chapter 464 of NRS is a revocable privilege, and no holder acquires any vested right therein or thereunder.

3. This section does not:

(a) Abrogate or abridge any common-law right of a gaming establishment to exclude any person from gaming activities or eject any person from the premises of the establishment for any reason;
or

(b) Prohibit a licensee from establishing minimum wagers for any gambling game or slot machine.


I also notice that the text on the sign leaves out the key words, "except as provided by the Legislature."
JackStraw8004
JackStraw8004
Joined: Mar 27, 2013
  • Threads: 12
  • Posts: 146
June 29th, 2015 at 5:07:28 PM permalink
Several years ago and I can't remember which casino had a private gaming area on the second floor where they tried to discourage admittance. Also Bobby's Room in the Bellagio poker room along with the high limit poker room in Aria try to prevent people from sweating the action. In both accounts technically what they are doing isn't permitted. You should have every right to walk into the Bobby's Room in the Bellagio and watch the game to determine if you want to play in it. The poker room floor people try to make it uncomfortable if you try to stand around and watch a game. Unlike a private BJ table for a celebrity the poker game is open to public. Walk into Bobby's Room when a big game is going on. I guarantee you will last about two seconds. Now what you should do is call gaming. Tell them they are preventing you from deciding if you want sit down. Also show the poker room manager that you have buy-in required. It might be $50K but if you have it you can make a nuisance of yourself. The Bellagio has already had complaints about restricted games. They do it in a sneaky manner. They can prevent you from ever playing. It's all set up before hand. There is a list established. Players are called at their home when a seat is available. They find away to allow only the high roller fish to get any open seat.
MissEye
MissEye
Joined: Jun 1, 2015
  • Threads: 1
  • Posts: 68
June 29th, 2015 at 5:34:55 PM permalink
I've seen this used in pool areas that have pool side black jack. In those areas they can't say only motel guests can enter, they have to allow anyone. They also can't charge admittance.

  • Jump to: