TheBigPaybak
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June 5th, 2015 at 5:59:22 AM permalink
A while back I created a youtube channel for slot videos(youtube.com/thebigpayback for those interested) - I did this primarily as an experiment in social media and just for the hell of it as a hobby although much to my surprise the channel has gained some traction and now actually produces income! This has been going extremely well, until recently at my local security warned me as I got a little too comfortable- and after a subsequent discussion I made the decision to stop- at least at my local.

Questions:
1. Let's say I were to continue, I assume I could banned but could they void a jackpot? (I'm not going to push it at my local, but wondering about other places)
2. I assume at an Indian casino, they could do pretty much anything they wanted.
3. Could any regulatory agency come after me- for example to take my channel down?

Any other thoughts?
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ThatDonGuy
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June 5th, 2015 at 7:21:32 AM permalink
Quote: TheBigPaybak

Questions:
1. Let's say I were to continue, I assume I could banned but could they void a jackpot? (I'm not going to push it at my local, but wondering about other places)
2. I assume at an Indian casino, they could do pretty much anything they wanted.
3. Could any regulatory agency come after me- for example to take my channel down?


IANALBIALOOTI*, but my opinion is:

1. Unless they can show that you were gaining some sort of advantage by doing it, I don't think so. Otherwise, what stops the casino from hiring people to record, say, Megabucks players, so when somebody hits the jackpot, they can say, "Sorry, but it was being recorded, so we're voiding it"?

2. This is my impression as well, unless there's something in the compact with the state that covers it.

3. The slot machine manufacturer could, claiming some trademark or trade secret infringement - especially if it's a multi-line machine where, supposedly, each reel has an equal chance of stopping in any particular position (although I am still not as convinced of this as, say, The Wizard - I don't see why reel 1 can't be set up so symbols A/B/C show up slightly more often, and reel 2 so that D/E/F show up, since that combination makes all lines losers). The fact that you're making money doesn't help your cause, although usually that's not taken into account (how many websites have been shut down in spite of the "But I'm not making any money, and it's free publicity!" defense?).

*I am not a lawyer but I act like one on the Internet
TheBigPaybak
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June 5th, 2015 at 8:24:07 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

IANALBIALOOTI*, but my opinion is:

1. Unless they can show that you were gaining some sort of advantage by doing it, I don't think so. Otherwise, what stops the casino from hiring people to record, say, Megabucks players, so when somebody hits the jackpot, they can say, "Sorry, but it was being recorded, so we're voiding it"?

2. This is my impression as well, unless there's something in the compact with the state that covers it.

3. The slot machine manufacturer could, claiming some trademark or trade secret infringement - especially if it's a multi-line machine where, supposedly, each reel has an equal chance of stopping in any particular position (although I am still not as convinced of this as, say, The Wizard - I don't see why reel 1 can't be set up so symbols A/B/C show up slightly more often, and reel 2 so that D/E/F show up, since that combination makes all lines losers). The fact that you're making money doesn't help your cause, although usually that's not taken into account (how many websites have been shut down in spite of the "But I'm not making any money, and it's free publicity!" defense?).

*I am not a lawyer but I act like one on the Internet



I think with regard to number one, the differentiation may be if the person doing the recording is the one actually playing- so if I got my buddy to do the recording, they couldn't do anything to ME but they could eject him.

That's an interesting point with regard to the third point, although to decode a machine you'd probably need more video than what I'm posting- and it would be specific per casino for the most part, so I don't see the manufacturers raising a stink and if they did, they would have to raise a big one as there are probably hundreds of thousands of slot videos on youtube at this point...

Thanks for the comments!
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rsactuary
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June 5th, 2015 at 9:09:58 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

(although I am still not as convinced of this as, say, The Wizard - I don't see why reel 1 can't be set up so symbols A/B/C show up slightly more often, and reel 2 so that D/E/F show up, since that combination makes all lines losers).



Because they can just add more symbols to the electronic reel to get the desired effect.
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