I am proud to announce the publication of my new book, "Advanced Advantage Play, Beating and Safeguarding Modern Casino Table Games, Side Bets and Promotions" now available on Amazon.com .
AAP is a comprehensive examination of the powerful and legal methods being used by top advantage players to beat the full array of opportunities in today's casinos. It is the most thorough presentation of these methods and games ever made available to the general public.
The methods described are being used by top players to beat blackjack, blackjack side bets, baccarat, baccarat side bets as well as many novelty games like Three Card Poker, Mississippi Stud and others. My book is the first to give detailed analysis of using edge sorting to beat games (the method used by Phil Ivey to win $20 million). It is also the first book to cover beating loss rebates (the method Don Johnson used to win $15 million).
I also show how card counting can be applied to a variety of games, not just blackjack and Spanish 21. I discuss the powerful method of hole-carding, where the player exploits the knowledge gained when one or more dealer hidden cards is exposed. I also consider collaboration, where players share the values of their cards during the play of the hand. I cover many additional methods, like top-carding, card location and others. I also give a dollar value to each method and game examined.
I wrote AAP for both the industry insider and for the player who wants to find out how skilled players are legally beating games. I don't take sides in my presentation -- I demonstrate how to beat the games while also providing practical advice to casino management on effective methods to protect vulnerabilities.
I understand that this book is written in the shadow of those impressive books on the same topic written by James Grosjean. If his books were easily available to the general public, I doubt my book would have been written.
There are recent threads here about how much top AP's can make. Some of the methods I describe are exactly what they are doing. These methods are powerful and these APs are telling the truth about their income.
Advanced Advantage Play is 475 full-sized and densely packed 8.5" x 11" pages. It has 135 chapters, based on posts I wrote at my blog APheat.net .
You can find out more at http://advancedadvantageplay.com
Yes, over 120 posts at A.P. Heat! have been edited and their content removed.Quote: HunterhillDoes this mean you are removing the information on your website that will be in the book?
Could you possibly post a chapter list?
*Really? were you hacked?
Hi Romes. Sorry about the price, but the economics of the book (475 8.5" x 11" pages) makes a cheaper price not really possible. There would be almost no profit left at $39.95.Quote: RomesCongratulations on your book. When I came to WoV I scoured all of the old threads before chiming in / posting new threads. Most all of your posts were mathematically based and sound, I really enjoy(ed) them. When I saw your name stating it was your book, I knew I would want to check it out... but $50? You know we're nitty gritty AP's here, right? lol We'll throw thousands down on a hand, but I will go through an entire cereal isle looking for the 50 cent cheaper knock off brand =P. For me personally it's tough to pay that chunk because I believe I already know at least 80-90% of the topics discussed, but would love to check out your book because I appreciate your views/findings/etc.
Could you possibly post a chapter list?
The table of contents is here: http://advancedadvantageplay.com/book-stuff/table-of-contents/
People posted all sorts of comments on my blog APHeat! about my work -- not all positive. I took pleasure in including a few of the best ones on the book cover. This one made my favorite's list.Quote: odiousgambitGet a real job and stop being the brown nose ass kissing teachers pet to the casino*
*Really? were you hacked?
Quote: teliotHi Romes. Sorry about the price, but the economics of the book (475 8.5" x 11" pages) makes a cheaper price not really possible. There would be almost no profit left at $39.95.
The table of contents is here: http://advancedadvantageplay.com/book-stuff/table-of-contents/
Wow, you weren't joking when you said a comprehensive look at different games and side bets =). I like the fact that it's a 'bigger' book... You might have just sold me, sir!
Quote: RomesCongratulations on your book. When I came to WoV I scoured all of the old threads before chiming in / posting new threads. Most all of your posts were mathematically based and sound, I really enjoy(ed) them. When I saw your name stating it was your book, I knew I would want to check it out... but $50? You know we're nitty gritty AP's here, right? lol We'll throw thousands down on a hand, but I will go through an entire cereal isle looking for the 50 cent cheaper knock off brand =P. For me personally it's tough to pay that chunk because I believe I already know at least 80-90% of the topics discussed, but would love to check out your book because I appreciate your views/findings/etc.
Could you possibly post a chapter list?
Amazon:
"Your cost could be $19.95 instead of $49.95. Get the Amazon.com Rewards Visa and you'll automatically get $30.00 off instantly as a gift card.
Surely some APs, depending on their situation, could make that work. That would be a bargain.
Quote: teliot... 475 8.5" x 11" pages ...
Holy crap! That's just shy of a full ream of paper.
Considering that a ream of decent paper is $5, paying $50 for the ink and binding (not to mention info) seems like a bargain!
😊
Quote: 1BBAmazon:
"Your cost could be $19.95 instead of $49.95. Get the Amazon.com Rewards Visa and you'll automatically get $30.00 off instantly as a gift card.
Surely some APs, depending on their situation, could make that work. That would be a bargain.
My offer was for a $70 gift card, which is still not enough to make me want another card. My current credit card gives cash back, so I did get a $0.75 discount on the book :)
I wish you well.
kj
You seem to be a standup guy, but I'd still wonder, if only in the abstract.
In my dreams, I am hopeful that it will generate some mass-market appeal and finally shake up the decade's old illusion that blackjack card counting is the only way to beat the house. I get tired/exhausted of hearing stories in the media about card counters. Movies like the Hangover. Players like Ben Affleck. Cartoons like the Simpsons. Phil Ivey and Don Johnson seem to have been forgotten by the public.Quote: kewljJust curious, teliot, what do you see as your 'target' audience for the book, AP's or casino industry personnel?
Most high-level professional APs are comfortable with what they know and do. They already have a knowledge source and income stream coming their way. Many non-professional APs somehow don't believe this stuff really happens. That was me back in 2000 when I could have bought Grosjean's book for $39.95. By 2002, I was hole-carding 3CP (and someone gave me a copy of BC). From the AP side, I think these players are my target audience.
But more realistically, I think AAP will be purchased more by the industry (game developers, table games management, surveillance) than by players. Those in the industry need to know as much as they can about as many different games/methods as possible. Individual APs only need to know one or two things.
ZCore13
I edited all the blog posts that went into the book so the content is no longer there. I'm not saying you can't still find it using "wayback" or some other archiving site - but you've got to know exactly what you want.Quote: Zcore13I will buy it just to add to my collection. But if someone still has access to all the blog/articles you wrote, is there any new information in the book? How will you handle new games from this point on? Save them for updates on the book or still post about them?
I think AAP makes it much easier to find what you want than my blog, it also gives a sense for the totality of the material that the blog did not. It also organizes the material in a way that makes comparisons of games and methods far easier. Good articles got hidden in my blog. Unless you knew the title or keywords, important posts were mostly going unread. Finally, AAP is the first book of its kind available to the general public; it is the first publicly available book to thoroughly cover the lesser-known and incredibly powerful methods top table games players are using to beat the house.
I didn't analyze any new games for the book.
As for analyzing advantage play going forward, I am not sure how much (if any) I will make public. I've answered a number of questions privately recently and have seen some great new plays that didn't make it into my book. Due to confidentiality, I can't share that stuff. But, the playground these guys work in is very rich indeed.
Quote: teliotI edited all the blog posts that went into the book so the content is no longer there. I'm not saying you can't still find it using "wayback" or some other archiving site - but you've got to know exactly what you want.
I think AAP makes it much easier to find what you want than my blog, it also gives a sense for the totality of the material that the blog did not. It also organizes the material in a way that makes comparisons of games and methods far easier. Good articles got hidden in my blog. Unless you knew the title or keywords, important posts were mostly going unread. Finally, AAP is the first book of its kind available to the general public; it is the first publicly available book to thoroughly cover the lesser-known and incredibly powerful methods top table games players are using to beat the house.
I'm sure the book will be an excellent resource for years to come. You've put a lot of time, effort and knowledge into all of that content and you deserve to be rewarded for it. I'll be buying it next week.
Congrats to you.
ZCore13
Quote: MrVWere I an AP, I'd wonder whether Amazon could, at your request, provide you with the names and addresses of book purchasers: the fear being that you *could* provide this info to the casinos, thus allowing the purchasers to be identified as APs.
You seem to be a standup guy, but I'd still wonder, if only in the abstract.
You answered a later post than this which makes me wonder whether or not you will answer this post.
know. 95% of the content of books like this
is usually stuff that we've known for years.
I'm glad you've chosen to take your hard work of some original analysis, some verification/re-wording off the website and try to profit from it. I will stop short of wishing you do well with the book, it would be disingenuous.
Quote: mcallister3200He has answered that exact question about AP's visiting his blog before, why beat a dead horse?
I have not seen the question answered and I would assume there person that asked it has not either.
I'd like to have his answer. It isn't an unfair question.
You are not buying this book from me, you are buying it from Amazon, who is selling the books through their own printing company, Create Space. They handle all the billing and shipping on their end and just send a monthly royalty check.Quote: RonCYou answered a later post than this which makes me wonder whether or not you will answer this post.
Besides, why would I care if some unskilled wanna-be AP or gambler or casual reader or casino manager or surveillance operator, or (I assume this is who you really mean) skilled AP buys the book? You think I am going to collect names (which is not possible because I am not involved in the billing or receiving payments) and try and figure out who the people are (as long as they don't have a common name), then put out general alerts to every casino internationally that a person with that name might be a highly skilled AP because they bought my book, so watch out, but they might actually work for a casino or just be a casual gambler, I don't know? Then somehow, you reason out that I can sell this list for the small handful of actual APs that it might contain, but all I know is their name (they probably go by an alias) and I don't have a picture, but I can then use it to make money somehow because casinos are so desperate for leads they'll take anything they can get? To me, this fantasy sounds incredibly paranoid. I cannot imagine the chain of reasoning behind such a question.
Thanks for your kind (but disclaimed) well-wishes. 8-)Quote: mcallister3200I'm glad you've chosen to take your hard work of some original analysis, some verification/re-wording of the website and try to profit from it. I will stop short of wishing you do well with the book, it would be disingenuous.
Quote: teliotThanks for your kind (but disclaimed) well-wishes. 8-)
If it wasn't good work, I wouldn't care. I have learned one or two things from reading it.
Quote: teliotTo me, this sounds incredibly paranoid.
I think, incredibly ridiculous. But then again, look who... .
Quote: teliotI cannot imagine the chain of reasoning behind such a question.
Still trying to figure out the chain of reasoning behind such a career. Card counting must be an exhausting, slow motion "voodoo" or needle. Escapism with questionable monetary pay?
But, I can understand the reason that people merely write about it. Then again, not of rehashing decades of old material, or at least stuff which can't be dated. Who's to say what's new? Or who doesn't already know of.
Quote: KerkebetWho's to say what's new? Or who doesn't already know of.
For those of us who read these types of
books, there is rarely much new material
in them. Unlike Grosjeans first book. I
asked how much of this book is new
material and am being ignored, so I
guess that's my answer.
Quote: teliotTo me, this fantasy sounds incredibly paranoid. I cannot imagine the chain of reasoning behind such a question.
I have purchased books from gambling authors before, and one was shipped directly by the seller/author: he has my name and address.
As your book is obviously not going to be a best seller, due to limited market, I didn't know whether Amazon requires that you do the shipping/fulfilling directly, or as you now say has someone else do it.
Many sellers of stuff on Amazon ship it themselves, using Amazon only as a portal / processing site: only a fraction is shipped by them from their huge warehouses.
Now, do you understand my "incredibly paranoid reasoning?"
*methinks the author doth protest too much*
Quote:The FEAR being that you *could* provide this info to the casinos, thus allowing the purchasers to be identified as APs.
Quote: teliotYou are not buying this book from me, you are buying it from Amazon, who is selling the books through their own printing company, Create Space. They handle all the billing and shipping on their end and just send a monthly royalty check.
Besides, why would I care if some unskilled wanna-be AP or gambler or casual reader or casino manager or surveillance operator, or (I assume this is who you really mean) skilled AP buys the book? You think I am going to collect names (which is not possible because I am not involved in the billing or receiving payments) and try and figure out who the people are (as long as they don't have a common name), then put out general alerts to every casino internationally that a person with that name might be a highly skilled AP because they bought my book, so watch out, but they might actually work for a casino or just be a casual gambler, I don't know? Then somehow, you reason out that I can sell this list for the small handful of actual APs that it might contain, but all I know is their name (they probably go by an alias) and I don't have a picture, but I can then use it to make money somehow because casinos are so desperate for leads they'll take anything they can get? To me, this fantasy sounds incredibly paranoid. I cannot imagine the chain of reasoning behind such a question.
Really? You wonder why people would be concerned about their names being provided to the casinos or some other party interested in preventing AP? It is just a question; so much of our information is tracked and used "against" us--your "To me, this fantasy sounds incredibly paranoid. I cannot imagine the chain of reasoning behind such a question." seems like an extra strong protest to what was just a question.
If I were an AP and wanted this book, I would not use my real name when buying it. The reason is not because I think that the information about buyers will be mined; but just because it could be. Why take silly chances?
Quote: RonCIf I were an AP and wanted this book, I would not use my real name when buying it. The reason is not because I think that the information about buyers will be mined; but just because it could be. Why take silly chances?
Exactly. The author works for and works
with the casinos against advantage play.
You can't be an advocate for both sides
at once. If the casinos thought he was
for advantage play, which they despise,
why would they continue to use his
services.
Quote: EvenBobI asked how much of this book is new
material and am being ignored, so I
guess that's my answer.
I don't think you're being ignored. I just think
it's a hard or impossible question to answer.
I mean, define "new material".
Quote: DJTeddyBear
I mean, define "new material".
Info you haven't read in 5 other books.
These authors don't write in a vacuum,
they know what's out there, they read
the same books we do.
Quote: KerkebetQuote:The FEAR being that you *could* provide this info to the casinos, thus allowing the purchasers to be identified as APs.
It's not about the names. How might the casino become involved with authors/sellers? And, which would be liable for what were casinos to illegally budget for and utilize such a database and reference infrastructure? Would the casinos ask the Mr V's, "Which chapter of this book did you read and understand? What other books have you read; and who did you lend them to?"? Or, summarily throw out everyone who had bought, let alone read, a gambling related book? Can you imagine what that would cost a casino outright? It would be much easier to just cheat the actual few (lucky) big winners in ad hoc fashion. Conversely, how might the authors go about this, which authors, and what would they achieve by it?
I would be wary of the gambling writers. After and before all, also they are a form of (maneuvering) AP. Only the specific "mission" has changed. Might explain a lot of the seemingly "loaded questions/answers". Like, "To bad that the casinos don't think that we don't exist," and, "Suspected card counters aren't banned because that would be everyone," or, "You're just a 'ploppy' then!" Except for the very infrequent martingale player, no one but counters raise the bet in a session. But only the counters go quiet as their eyes follow also the other players' cards. No mystery. More of an embarrassing "sore thumb" issue in "wanting to believe", ie, not realizing how observant most persons actually are subconsciously. Also occurs when we become accustomed or conditioned to a heightened academic awareness, when we want to go on to pontificate in mathematical paradoxes, and the like. Let me tell you, if you say, walk down the road with a bag of poop in your hand, people "just know" what it is.
If you try to tell me that you're crushing the game to "rock my world", or that you won $300,000 free and clear last year, then you omit something significant. Most authors - especially gambling authors - must realize that the bulk of their work won't be employed, let alone effectively. Again, the casinos realize this too, right? It's like pinch selling dumbbells after getting the late night crowd "fired up" with a glitzy infomercial. But here, it's the niggling "mystery" of that new and reformatted information. Business should be about keeping it real.
If you are worried about your identity but still want to buy the book, use an alias.
If you think the information is worthless and re-hashed, don't buy it.
Vote with your dollars and move on. I will be getting a copy because I believe it will have value for me.
You're absolutely right. But this is a discussion forum and it was put up for discussion. People have some questions so let them ask. People have opinions, some good, some bad and some ugly, let them share their opinions. If someone is touting a book here, then they should be open to both criticism and praise.Quote: ParadigmHere are my thoughts......if you think the book offers value to you, buy it.
If you are worried about your identity but still want to buy the book, use an alias.
If you think the information is worthless and re-hashed, don't buy it.
Vote with your dollars and move on. I will be getting a copy because I believe it will have value for me.
Personally I'm not interested in the book(shocker I know) but some people are.
It's true much of this information can be found online and some is old news, but someone might want it all contained in one comprehensive place.
I seriously doubt anybody will change there minds about buying it or not based on the opinions here, unless there's some earth shattering discovery.
Is it in Ebook format ? If so, any Pirate links yet ;)
I don't know of anybody who is better suited to write a book on this subject. And, I need and will actually accept all the help that I can get. Haha
Thanks for this! My copy will be delivered Tuesday and I can't wait to dig in.
I hope you do very well with this and write even more as time permits.
Thanks so much. It's really not so much of a read as it is a reference, though some parts are lighter reading (by lighter reading, I mean that I hope you enjoy reading tables full of numbers for recreation).Quote: texasplumrI hope you do very well with this and write even more as time permits.
Quote: teliotThanks so much. It's really not so much of a read as it is a reference, though some parts are lighter reading (by lighter reading, I mean that I hope you enjoy reading tables full of numbers for recreation).
I prefer making tables full of numbers for recreation. :+)
Thanks! I noticed they lowered the price. That's one of the reasons I like working with Amazon as the printing company (it's print on demand). They print my other two books as well - POD. Amazon heavily discounts their own products without taking anything away from my end.Quote: beachbumbabsI ordered the book (which, BTW, is discounted 14% at the moment, so at $42.87 including free shipping, not $50) this afternoon. Really liked the comprehensive table of contents, and I think there's a lot of value in examining game protection issues before I approach anyone with a new game. Your first book on casino game design was invaluable, so I'm confident this book will be useful as well.
Among other things, AAP gathers scores of games together so that they can be examined side-by-side. Your game (OFTM) is included. Maybe game developers will like being in my book (even though my primary purpose is to pick games apart), as it will be free advertising to casinos who may not have heard of the game before.
I plan to buy the book. I always like reading up on AP maneuvers and methods for beating them as well even if most of the stuff listed is not my forte.
Also, am most certainly not paranoid about names being compiled by the author. I agree with what Teliot said. Casinos are not going to purchase or even accept for free a list of names who purchased books on Amazon as proof of anything but if you are really that paranoid, use your mother-in-laws credit card and address and then hopefully she will be the one blackballed from the casino (for being a possible AP, lol.)
As someone who has a self-published book on Amazon as well, I can attest that Createspace does not share the info of who is purchasing books. They handle everything so you don't even know you sold a book until you get the email that you have a royalty payment. BTW, Createspace is print on demand so there is no warehouse full of copies in the authors basement. It also explains the high price point -- it's more expensive to publish one by one copies.
The more you understand about how the universe works, the less random paranoia you need in your life. At any rate, if anyone is really concerned, it is also going to be sold through bj21.com so you can buy it directly from Stanford Wong himself.Quote: darkozAlso, am most certainly not paranoid about names being compiled by the author. I agree with what Teliot said. Casinos are not going to purchase or even accept for free a list of names who purchased books on Amazon as proof of anything.
Quote: teliotThe more you understand about how the universe works, the less random paranoia you need in your life. At any rate, if anyone is really concerned, it is also going to be sold through bj21.com so you can buy it directly from Stanford Wong himself.
Professor I thought I give you a one-up by putting your thread on top of this website again.
Thanks for the link on Cosmology. It was great.
From Professor to Gaming consultant.
I think you would love to do a Gary Lovemen if the opportunity arises. But I think it was just luck.
Professor Lovemen did some consulting work for Caesar and caught the eye of the Chairman.
He was then invited to be the President of the company. At the time he claimed that he took a pay cut from Professor to President.
Then came this private investor Leon Black who wanted to take the company private. I just don't know whether his loyalty was with the existing shareholder, Leon Black or himself. Anyway he manage to cut the deal to take the company private and deal a $100+M pay-out for himself.
He must be close to be a Billionaire now. The company is on the rocks and he is complaining about losing about $9M in pension.
Quote: MrVI have purchased books from gambling authors before, and one was shipped directly by the seller/author: he has my name and address.
As your book is obviously not going to be a best seller, due to limited market, I didn't know whether Amazon requires that you do the shipping/fulfilling directly, or as you now say has someone else do it.
Many sellers of stuff on Amazon ship it themselves, using Amazon only as a portal / processing site: only a fraction is shipped by them from their huge warehouses.
Now, do you understand my "incredibly paranoid reasoning?"
*methinks the author doth protest too much*
When you buy something on Amazon, you can tell right away whether it's a third-party merchant selling it to you or Amazon themselves. The phrase you want to look for is "Ships from and sold by Amazon.com," which there when you view this book's detail page.
I won't speak to the conspiracy theories, but he is being truthful about that.
Quote: advantage player
1.0 out of 5 stars Save your money....PASS!, April 7, 2015
I have read this book along with another by the author. PLEASE save your money! There are other well written and factual books that will help your game, I wasted my hard earned cash, let me be the dumb one! I would highly recommend Gambling Theory and Blackjack Bluebook II.
I expect a great number of reviews like this. Some of those in the AP community will do everything they can to discredit this book. Quite simply, these players don't want the advanced methods becoming well known by other players or casinos. It is entirely self-serving. The fact that the reviewer recommends books on ordinary blackjack card counting is evidence enough that this reviewer doesn't want players to consider more advanced techniques. This reviewer is also not a "verified buyer" so he probably hasn't even seen the book.
I hope that some of you who bought a copy through Amazon will be kind enough to do a fair review.
Not yet, but with Amazon, you never know what cover they'll put on your book.Quote: FaceIs there a soft core porn version of this particular book? ;)
Face is referencing this cover that was put onto a copy of my book, Contemporary Casino Table Games: