Voluntarism (Split Thread)
Quote: FaceThis doesn't answer the question posed.
The community feels it is wrong. What then?
Huh? I did answer the question. If you consider children as property of their parents then it's a violation of someone's property and okay to use violence in order to defend ones property.
After the fact, what's to defend? AND what if its the parents doing the violating? What if the parents allow it.Quote: rudeboyoiHuh? I did answer the question. If you consider children as property of their parents then it's a violation of someone's property and okay to use violence in order to defend ones property.
Something like a David Koresh?
"Koresh's youngest "bride" when she was just 10, and would later testify in Congress that Koresh molested her at a motel. She told Primetime she was not upset at the time. "I had been trained from a very early age that this was a good thing," she said."
So this is ok? All willing participants.
Quote: AxelWolfAfter the fact, what's to defend? AND what if its the parents doing the violating?
If your property gets violated its okay to use violence whether its during or after the fact. Safety is never guaranteed. There's always going to be sickos out there. I believe most parents want to nurture rather than harm their children though. Kids being taken away from a loving family is not worth saving kids being taken away from an abusive family. Like CPS can take kids away from their loving family because they decided to give birth at home or they happen to smoke weed.
Quote: rudeboyoiKids being taken away from a loving family is not worth saving kids being taken away from an abusive family. Like CPS can take kids away from their loving family because they decided to give birth at home or they happen to smoke weed.
Carrying on in this same vein, is it that you believe that the "good" interference (removing them from sadist, rapers, etc) does not make up for the "bad" interference (removing them from sadists, rapers, etc)? Or is it simply your idea that interference period is not to be tolerated?
It seems, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that the "freedom" you desire isn't this watered down, "fake" freedom trumpeted by America, but a genuine, 200-proof freedom the likes of which may have not existed since pre-cave-man days. A true freedom, restricted only by a communal sense of decency and appropriate conduct.
Am I in the ballpark, at least?
Quote: FaceGotcha. You must understand that many of the things you have said are things that I have found, to put it bluntly, simply revolting. Rather than just react, I'm trying to get to the base of your argument so I can really understand what you're saying.
It seems, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that the "freedom" you desire isn't this watered down, "fake" freedom trumpeted by America, but a genuine, 200-proof freedom the likes of which may have not existed since pre-cave-man days. A true freedom, restricted only by a communal sense of decency and appropriate conduct.
Am I in the ballpark, at least?
Right. I like how you put that there "a true freedom, restricted only by a communal sense of decency and appropriate conduct"
It's pretty easy to talk about anarchist views when you assume everyone is an adult but becomes hazy when you bring children into the picture. Idk of a better way to describe children other than saying they're property of their parents as a way of saying parents know what's best for their children.
Right they wont put up with it and the vigilantes will rise up. A mob mentality will form people will faultsly accuse people and take matters in their own hands.Quote: rudeboyoiBasically what it boils down to is most people aren't going to put up with pedophiles with or without laws. The only way to match people's likely behavior towards pedophiles as acceptable to an anarchist philosphy is to regard children as property. Property of what? I'd say the best choice is parents where parents is a loosely defined term.
With no punishment(Jail) criminals would run rampant especially fraudsters Imagine all the non violent crimes people would commit without the fear of jail.
Quote: AxelWolfRight they wont put up with it and the vigilantes will rise up. A mob mentality will form people will faultsly accuse people and take matters in their own hands.
With no punishment(Jail) criminals would run rampant especially fraudsters Imagine all the non violent crimes people would commit without the fear of jail.
There are no non-violent crimes.
Quote: BeardgoatDo your friends or inner circle all have the same beliefs as you?
Well most are on the right track. Like thinking weed shouldnt be illegal. But thats still being a statist though. An anarchist believes no one has the right to declare whats legal/illegal in the first place. Most are unwilling to make that final leap of faith that government isn't necessary.
Just ran across this article on how to deal with child abuse in a stateless society. Basically they suggest shunning.
