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Minty
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January 23rd, 2015 at 1:40:50 AM permalink
Hi everyone! I've been reading this forum for a few years now as additional material to some of the blackjack books available. Actually one of the more important things about turning 21 to me was joining this site as a member instead of a long time lurker. I was curious as to what everyone thinks about it being so common for the legal gambling age to be 21. I know there's been brief exchanges about this before, but I haven't seen a thread about it.

In my state, 18 is the legal age to gamble. I haven't seen too many negative repercussions from it, but there are certainly some other college students that really shouldn't be there because of financial considerations and a lack of knowledge on basic strategy.

What are your thoughts? I'm certainly biased and believe it should be 18, but I see both sides.
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AxelWolf
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January 23rd, 2015 at 2:24:41 AM permalink
Quote: Minty

Hi everyone! I've been reading this forum for a few years now as additional material to some of the blackjack books available. Actually one of the more important things about turning 21 to me was joining this site as a member instead of a long time lurker. I was curious as to what everyone thinks about it being so common for the legal gambling age to be 21. I know there's been brief exchanges about this before, but I haven't seen a thread about it.

In my state, 18 is the legal age to gamble. I haven't seen too many negative repercussions from it, but there are certainly some other college students that really shouldn't be there because of financial considerations and a lack of knowledge on basic strategy.

What are your thoughts? I'm certainly biased and believe it should be 18, but I see both sides.

I'm all for kids rights. Some kids are smarter and more reasonable than adults.

But morally I think its foolish. They don't need more bad things to deal with. I can't think of one good reason for it. I don't buy the argument that they can die for our country but not gamble and drink. They are doing both anyways.

Perhaps a special cruise or something with limited access would be ok, but 24/7 access to casinos isn't something good.

An 18 year old knowing basic strategy is dangerous, even more dangerous knowing about counting cards. The reality and odds of a successful career is very very slim.
so there's really no reason someone 18 needs gambling in their life. If they are truly talented enough they will know it and find a way to exploit their talents.

If I knew a kid was underage gambling, I wouldn't say anything or care. I was doing it before I was 21 myself.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Dieter
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January 23rd, 2015 at 2:51:24 AM permalink
For many people, the brain's pathways are not finished forming until about age 25.

The brain, while maturing, may be uniquely susceptible to potentially addictive stimuli (like alcohol, nicotine, gambling, crack, meth...).

On the one hand, I'm pro-rights, and if 10 year olds want to shoot dice, go for it. On the other hand, I know how tricky it is to break an addiction, and protecting people is important.

However, that pesky third hand says that the age of majority is 18, and that's what the standard should be - for recreational drugs, gambling, being able to rent a car, etc.
I guess that means that if 10 year olds want to shoot dice, it's got to be Yahtzee. (or Farkle.)
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tringlomane
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January 23rd, 2015 at 3:34:28 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

For many people, the brain's pathways are not finished forming until about age 25.

The brain, while maturing, may be uniquely susceptible to potentially addictive stimuli (like alcohol, nicotine, gambling, crack, meth...).

On the one hand, I'm pro-rights, and if 10 year olds want to shoot dice, go for it. On the other hand, I know how tricky it is to break an addiction, and protecting people is important.

However, that pesky third hand says that the age of majority is 18, and that's what the standard should be - for recreational drugs, gambling, being able to rent a car, etc.
I guess that means that if 10 year olds want to shoot dice, it's got to be Yahtzee. (or Farkle.)



I have played Farkel (old spelling) way before it became "cool"; i've played it since I was ten (~25 years now). I learned it from my cousin, who ironically considering your post, has had drug issues, mainly with cocaine. :-\
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January 23rd, 2015 at 5:12:42 AM permalink
Quote: Minty

Hi everyone! I've been reading this forum for a few years now as additional material to some of the blackjack books available. Actually one of the more important things about turning 21 to me was joining this site as a member instead of a long time lurker. I was curious as to what everyone thinks about it being so common for the legal gambling age to be 21. I know there's been brief exchanges about this before, but I haven't seen a thread about it.

In my state, 18 is the legal age to gamble. I haven't seen too many negative repercussions from it, but there are certainly some other college students that really shouldn't be there because of financial considerations and a lack of knowledge on basic strategy.

What are your thoughts? I'm certainly biased and believe it should be 18, but I see both sides.



Welcome, Minty.

The rule stating that you had to be 21 to join this forum is one of those rules that were made to be broken. When a few members revealed that they were not yet of that age, the rule was never enforced.

I don't think our young people get enough credit these days, especially from the "old guard." Today's 18 year old is wiser, smarter and more responsible than their predecessors, in the humble opinion of this old guy. I'm all for our 18 year old adults being allowed to make the choice to gamble.

What scares the heck out of the casinos is alcohol consumption. If an 18 year old is bent on partaking, no ID, wristband or anything else will prevent them from doing so.

The gambling age in the State of Rhode Island, for example, is 18 while the drinking age is 21. That may be part of the reason that Twin River Casino does not comp alcoholic beverages.
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DJTeddyBear
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January 23rd, 2015 at 5:37:49 AM permalink
In most (all?) states, the minimum age to gamble IS 18. That allows 18-year-olds to play church bingo, purchase lottery tickets, etc.

But because of the free-flowing alcohol, most casinos have a minimum age of 21. If you look at the signs, usually they say 21 to enter. It doesn't say 21 to gamble.
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Mosca
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January 23rd, 2015 at 6:19:14 AM permalink
I accidentally flagged DJT's post while working on my iPad, hit the button with my thumb. Sorry. No flag intended.
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FleaStiff
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January 23rd, 2015 at 6:38:39 AM permalink
I'd love it for it to be 18, but don't expect to see much in the way of negative consequences. Young girls know to go to bartenders and discreetly inform them they have to earn back the college tuition they lost at the casino. A few who do it too blatantly may get arrested. A few of the young men will be arrested for getting drunk. It won't make a major incident anywhere.
zoobrew
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January 23rd, 2015 at 6:57:45 AM permalink
The major consequence is the loss of a liquor license for serving even 1 under age patron. Some states have zero tolerance for it and the bigger and more controversial you are (casinos are targets in some states) the more likely that you will be targeted for enforcement.
ahiromu
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January 23rd, 2015 at 8:11:39 AM permalink
Drinking and gambling at the age of 18. Rec marijuana should also be 18, but that one won't change anytime soon.

I'm 27 and still don't see any practical reason to have a distinction between 18 and 21. I hate to repeat the standard line, but if you can vote, join the military, and go to big boy prison, you should at least be able to drink, gamble, and take a toke.
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