Vegas Rover Deals Card
Quote: VRJOHNSee and there you go again with the lies... heretobustfraud... Johnny Boy... Come on... the gig is up... I know who you are. The truth will set you free... Why don't you just fess up to being the sick twisted psychopath you really are. You don't wish me success, you're still the scared little boy that always goes after Brad, but doesn't have the balls to go after me. The truth of the matter is you're a failure... You always were a failure... and always will be a failure... And the only way to boost your self esteem, is to hide behind the computer in another country and play make believe. Seriously, get a life scumbag.
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Quote: vegasloverThis whole board seems to have turned into a bunch of assholes. You asked my opinion if you dont like it or agree with it then that's your business but you dont have to call my opinion absurd. How about I say you can shove all your comments up your ass?
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edit: I will add, in partial answer to a previous accusation, that each poster (so far) appears to be a unique individual.
I have been on the receiving end of their insults and lies for a long time and that's why I am so against them.
Im told when I complain about their activities that The FBI are after me and that if I enter any of vegas rovers partners properties that I will be detained and arrested.
If everything is as good as they say why do they feel the need to silence anyone that speaks out against them.
A lot of deals are set to expire early next year, how can we be sure they will be renewed? If 1000's of people are buying a membership where are all the reviews of it?
Kinda strange isn't it
Quote: BazaPerhaps people can see how the owners of vegas rover really are now.
I have been on the receiving end of their insults and lies for a long time and that's why I am so against them.
Im told when I complain about their activities that The FBI are after me and that if I enter any of vegas rovers partners properties that I will be detained and arrested.
If everything is as good as they say why do they feel the need to silence anyone that speaks out against them.
A lot of deals are set to expire early next year, how can we be sure they will be renewed? If 1000's of people are buying a membership where are all the reviews of it?
Kinda strange isn't it
Here is a thread where a guy was looking for people to let him know how the card was look I how many comments were flagged and removed. Shocking really I assume not all of those posts were threatening or harassing.
http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/ShowTopic-g45963-i10-k7640191-Vegas_Rover_feedback-Las_Vegas_Nevada.html
Quote: strictlyAPTruthfully baza you sound bitter for some reason who cares when they expire if there is value there is value - not sure why you are bashing people can decide for themselves but there definitely seems to be something up with you basging them non stop
Who cares when they expire?
How about people that buy a card for an upcoming trip only to find the deals they wanted are no more.
You say im bashing people but you think its ok for Brad to post details of someone else's wrongdoing.
Double standards there
Quote: onenickelmiracleI am not understanding how this company became your nemesis and the time was justified looking into the background of a guy with such a common name. Being a disgruntled customer out max about $100 is it, but not worth a world wide search like chasing nazis. These pieces don't fit.
Its not the company its the owners of it.
Quote: heretobustfraudHere is a thread where a guy was looking for people to let him know how the card was look I how many comments were flagged and removed. Shocking really I assume not all of those posts were threatening or harassing.
http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/ShowTopic-g45963-i10-k7640191-Vegas_Rover_feedback-Las_Vegas_Nevada.html
Any company that censors bad feedback speaks for its self.
Buy a LVA coupon book instead.
You have to be 100% respectful to everyone who asks questions or makes statements, even if you might disagree with them. We love our member’s passion; we think it’s one of our strongest assets as a company. There is of course that .1% of people who cannot be made happy and you just have to let them go.
The whole thread it is from can be found here. http://www.thecrowdfundnetwork.com/help-change-the-vegas-travel-experience-crowdfunding-vegas-rover/
In the end mud slinging aside they really treat people very nasty even people that bought their $500 card. A woman that did just that started asking Brad questions about new deals and different things what does Brad do? Unfriend her and Brad told her she is no longer allowed to message him anymore. Who does a paying customer turn to next?
Assuming all true,$500 is enough to go nuts if no other recourse and poor service. People shouldn't have problems like this when compared to a coupon book which is generally honored.Quote: heretobustfraudHere is a few quotes from John Moura himself regarding dealing with customers with questions (btw they don't deal with them this way they can banned instantly)
You have to be 100% respectful to everyone who asks questions or makes statements, even if you might disagree with them. We love our member’s passion; we think it’s one of our strongest assets as a company. There is of course that .1% of people who cannot be made happy and you just have to let them go.
The whole thread it is from can be found here. http://www.thecrowdfundnetwork.com/help-change-the-vegas-travel-experience-crowdfunding-vegas-rover/
In the end mud slinging aside they really treat people very nasty even people that bought their $500 card. A woman that did just that started asking Brad questions about new deals and different things what does Brad do? Unfriend her and Brad told her she is no longer allowed to message him anymore. Who does a paying customer turn to next?
Quote: onenickelmiracleAssuming all true,$500 is enough to go nuts if no other recourse and poor service. People shouldn't have problems like this when compared to a coupon book which is generally honored.
I am sure since Brad has been so honest he can explain why a paying customer got treated so poorly? I have been curious myself as to the answer to this.
Rover were so eager to get rid and hide the bad feedback they refunded them the joining fee and then posted how they had tried to sabotage the company making them to look like the victim.
Im sure the fact John (CEO) has been banned for his rude reply to a poster here confirms this.
If you dare speak out you get banned and accused of trolling.
Theres making negative comments and then there's stalking. At this point I see a campaign being launched against the owners. I don't like it, theres always someone who wants to bash anyone or thing successful or competitive (I've even seen people even go after the Wizard).Quote: Baza
Is this just other companies trying to push out the small guys?
It's in gamblers best interests to have multiple options and competitors doing this type of reward thing. Places like My Vegas, LVA, ACG and other companies have all proven to be fruitful for many, on all different levels(Gamblers all want good deals). I don't give a rats ass if they are riding coattails or got their Ideas from other companies.
If this is what start up businesses like this face, then I feel sorry for them, it makes me want to root for them even more. Slight criminal background or not, If they are offering something good, and not trying to con members, I think we need to chill out.
FYI. ALL OF THE CASINO REWARDS COMPANIES HAVE HAD DEALS CANCELED, CHANGED OR AMENDED.
If you have legitimate reasons to believe they are purposely misleading us as to the legitimacy of the current offers, or you know they will soon be canceled, speak up. If not you have said all you need to say.
Will they succeed? I have no clue. I thought My Vegas was going to eventually die due to over gifting, then cutting back on rewards.
Didn't the stations online poker fail? They weren't conning anyone, but they still failed.
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Vegas Rover, If you guys are deleting legitimate negative posts, I think thats BS.
Someone has had to have had a legitimate compliant.
Quote: AxelWolfTheres making negative comments and then there's stalking. At this point I see a campaign being launched against the owners. I don't like it, theres always someone who wants to bash anyone or thing successful or competitive (I've even seen people even go after the Wizard).
Is this just other companies trying to push out the small guys?
It's in gamblers best interests to have multiple options and competitors doing this type of reward thing. Places like My Vegas, LVA, ACG and other companies have all proven to be fruitful for many, on all different levels(Gamblers all want good deals). I don't give a rats ass if they are riding coattails or got their Ideas from other companies.
If this is what start up businesses like this face, then I feel sorry for them, it makes me want to root for them even more. Slight criminal background or not, If they are offering something good, and not trying to con members, I think we need to chill out.
FYI. ALL OF THE CASINO REWARDS COMPANIES HAVE HAD DEALS CANCELED, CHANGED OR AMENDED.
If you have legitimate reasons to believe they are purposely misleading us as to the legitimacy of the current offers, or you know they will soon be canceled, speak up. If not you have said all you need to say.
Will they succeed? I have no clue. I thought My Vegas was going to eventually die due to over gifting, then cutting back on rewards.
Didn't the stations online poker fail? They weren't conning anyone, but they still failed.
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Vegas Rover, If you guys are deleting legitimate negative posts, I think thats BS.
Someone has had to have had a legitimate compliant.
This is the point here. They DO and always have deleted negative posts/feedback.
Not only do they delete it they then encourage members to unfriend/block etc the poster saying they are attacking them.
I am not in competition with rover at all. I run a FB group and make nothing from it and im happy with that.
If anyone here has bought a membership try posting a bad review or say your not happy and see what happens.
I guess we will see, perhaps everything offered was given.Quote: BazaThis is the point here. They DO and always have deleted negative posts/feedback.
Not only do they delete it they then encourage members to unfriend/block etc the poster saying they are attacking them.
I am not in competition with rover at all. I run a FB group and make nothing from it and im happy with that.
If anyone here has bought a membership try posting a bad review or say your not happy and see what happens.
What were some legitimate negative feedback comments?
What's the biggest complaints?
We are a deals card program plain and simple. You purchase a card and receive the deals available. In the history of Vegas Rover and dozens of deals we have had 1 offer canceled. Ellis Island was tired of the dozens of phone calls organized by Barry French and John Flores. We agreed to release them from their contract early as a courtesy. Moving forward all partners were provided information about these attacks.
On a side note: I also don't think Rover should be telling people that places like LVA are dying or whatever. They shouldn't even mention them.
Quote: AxelWolfI guess we will see, perhaps everything offered was given.
What were some legitimate negative feedback comments?
What's the biggest complaints?
Surely only Brad or John could answer this lol but according to Brad they have NEVER had any.
Quote: BazaThis is the point here. They DO and always have deleted negative posts/feedback.
Not only do they delete it they then encourage members to unfriend/block etc the poster saying they are attacking them.
I am not in competition with rover at all. I run a FB group and make nothing from it and im happy with that.
If anyone here has bought a membership try posting a bad review or say your not happy and see what happens.
Post the bad review here.
And please review the card and deals itself.
Give us positive and negative experiences using the card.
Please don't repeat the border grill story. We heard it. I know you don't like the people behind this card. I've heard that to.
I only paid 10 bucks. Its a lowroller pai gow bet.
Will I find at least 10 dollars in value? It is a very simple question Baza.
I keep asking the same common sense logical question and the detractors always change the subject.
Baza, yes I am talking to you, will I get at least 10 dollars in Value back?
Yes but you might lose Karma points for dealing with this company, possibly hell ;)Quote: terapinedPost the bad review here.
And please review the card and deals itself.
Give us positive and negative experiences using the card.
Please don't repeat the border grill story. We heard it. I know you don't like the people behind this card. I've heard that to.
I only paid 10 bucks. Its a lowroller pai gow bet.
Will I find at least 10 dollars in value? It is a very simple question Baza.
I keep asking the same common sense logical question and the detractors always change the subject.
Baza, yes I am talking to you, will I get at least 10 dollars in Value back?
Extortion Message by Barry French
http://i59.tinypic.com/2rdj15g.jpg
His Facebook profile can be found here
https://www.facebook.com/bazas?fref=ts
Quote: terapinedPost the bad review here.
And please review the card and deals itself.
Give us positive and negative experiences using the card.
Please don't repeat the border grill story. We heard it. I know you don't like the people behind this card. I've heard that to.
I only paid 10 bucks. Its a lowroller pai gow bet.
Will I find at least 10 dollars in value? It is a very simple question Baza.
I keep asking the same common sense logical question and the detractors always change the subject.
Baza, yes I am talking to you, will I get at least 10 dollars in Value back?
You tell me, I haven't bought a card so have no idea of its value. Im sure I could google you a $10 discount for free.
Quote: ohiovegasguyNot to beat a dead horse but can Barry (Baz) explain about his extortion attempt? This is a very serious matter and should be noted by everyone. A small business is being extorted for money. I reached out to him one final time before filing a report with the FBI to give him an opportunity to cease. He made it very clear again his intentions.
Extortion Message by Barry French
http://i59.tinypic.com/2rdj15g.jpg
Brad, you only posted a very small part of the PM where I jokingly ask for 3K. You failed to post the bit where I ask you to give it me in 2 separate "vegas rover pillowcases" from your store as well as a t shirt so I can change and escape the police.
I have the FULL conversation saved.
Oh I see you edited your post to include a link to my FB profile.
No doubt in the hope someone will harass me. Nice one.
And you say I am the TROLL
WTF then? If you cant tell us anything helpful because you haven't used it, why are you here again?Quote: BazaYou tell me, I haven't bought a card so have no idea of its value. Im sure I could google you a $10 discount for free.
Quote: AxelWolfWTF then? If you cant tell us anything helpful because you haven't used it, why are you here again?
Ask Brad, he is about :)
You have seen the way Brad and John reply to anyone that disagrees with them.
Quote: BazaYou tell me, I haven't bought a card so have no idea of its value. Im sure I could google you a $10 discount for free.
Wow, I took you as a disgruntled customer.
how about some background to put this dispute into perspective.
What was the original incident with your personal involvement in your eyes that got you here on this board attacking?
Quote: AxelWolfOnce you buy a particular level of card can you upgrade? If so do you have to pay full price for upgraded level ?
Yes we allow members to upgrade and apply the amount paid to new level. Since you will be a complimentary Gold member we will apply the value of that level towards the purchase of a higher level. ($59.95) The expiration date of the card remains the same.
Quote: ohiovegasguyYes we allow members to upgrade and apply the amount paid to new level. Since you will be a complimentary Gold member we will apply the value of that level towards the purchase of a higher level. ($59.95) The expiration date of the card remains the same.
Can you guarantee the deals will still be available before the card expires tho Brad?
A lot of your deals expire in the new year, how can people be sure they wont end up with deals that are of no value or use
NOBODY CAN.Quote: BazaCan you guarantee the deals will still be available before the card expires tho Brad?
A lot of your deals expire in the new year, how can people be sure they wont end up with deals that are of no value or use
All the major rewards places have had casinos prematurely cancel various offers.
Quote: BazaIf I were to post all the nitty gritty here it would solve nothing. Im happy to PM you the background if you want
Brief readers digest version of only original incident would be sufficient for now.
Just curious.
Its usually those that have lost money to someone or ripped off in their view that are relentless.
Maybe that is the case, maybe not.
I Rather not get a PM, per rules here, cant discuss it and others are probably curious.
Just real brief, original incident regarding yourself?
I've asked for a PM with permission to discuss.Quote: terapinedBrief readers digest version of only original incident would be sufficient for now.
Just curious.
Its usually those that have lost money to someone or ripped off in their view that are relentless.
Maybe that is the case, maybe not.
I Rather not get a PM, per rules here, cant discuss it and others are probably curious.
Just real brief, original incident regarding yourself?
Quote: terapinedBrief readers digest version of only original incident would be sufficient for now.
Just curious.
Its usually those that have lost money to someone or ripped off in their view that are relentless.
Maybe that is the case, maybe not.
I Rather not get a PM, per rules here, cant discuss it and others are probably curious.
Just real brief, original incident regarding yourself?
Brief history recap. I joined his myVegas friends group in August of 2012. BAZ (Barry) made me an administrator of the group. I did not agree with the other 2 admins and decided to part ways one month later creating my own myVegas topic group. After that it was like a war of the Facebook groups. In 2013 we decided to part ways with anything having to do with myVegas and created a group called Vegas Rover. Barry continued to follow our group and when the Vegas Rover Deals card launched he was ready with the attacks. The other 2 admins of his group created their own group which is now the only official myVegas Approved group called myVegas Friends Rocks.
Quote: ohiovegasguyBrief history recap. I joined his myVegas friends group in August of 2012. BAZ (Barry) made me an administrator of the group. I did not agree with the other 2 admins and decided to part ways one month later creating my own myVegas topic group. After that it was like a war of the Facebook groups. In 2013 we decided to part ways with anything having to do with myVegas and created a group called Vegas Rover. Barry continued to follow our group and when the Vegas Rover Deals card launched he was ready with the attacks. The other 2 admins of his group created their own group which is now the only official myVegas Approved group called myVegas Friends Rocks.
Brad you created Vegas Rover because you were forced to for trying to profit from a companies copyright. All the other myvegas groups are still around. Please tell the truth
Quote: ohiovegasguyI have been asked by a couple forum members to not respond to the trolls and will honor this. Any questions about the Vegas Rover Card program I am more than happy to answer. Answering questions from heretobustfraud or BAZ seems pretty pointless.
I just want you to get your story straight thats all.
I can see why someone might be upset. If I had an Idea and made someone part of that idea (I'm not sure if they gave you significant information)and that person went out on their own, I would probably be upset.Quote: ohiovegasguyBrief history recap. I joined his myVegas friends group in August of 2012. BAZ (Barry) made me an administrator of the group. I did not agree with the other 2 admins and decided to part ways one month later creating my own myVegas topic group. After that it was like a war of the Facebook groups. In 2013 we decided to part ways with anything having to do with myVegas and created a group called Vegas Rover. Barry continued to follow our group and when the Vegas Rover Deals card launched he was ready with the attacks. The other 2 admins of his group created their own group which is now the only official myVegas Approved group called myVegas Friends Rocks.
Is there money in Myvegas FB groups or something?
Obviously you found a way to capitalize on this. As long as your customers are safe and get what the bargain for. I don't think there mudslinging will make a big difference. The members on this forum will weed though all the BS and that will hold more water than anything.
It will come down to if both the casinos and customers can benefit somehow.
Looks like you had a past, and you might be still paying for it when having business dealings with casinos, perhaps thats some deserved consequences.
If you truly put all of that in the past, you'll eventually build up a good reputation and that will fade.
Results will be the major issue.
People are probably concerned about a few things. will personal information be safe? Will most offers be available to them? Will you go out of business next month?
Quote: AxelWolfI can see why someone might be upset. If I had an Idea and made someone part of that idea (I'm not sure if they gave you significant information)and that person went out on their own, I would probably be upset.
Is there money in Myvegas FB groups or something?
Obviously you found a way to capitalize on this. As long as your customers are safe and get what the bargain for. I don't think there mudslinging will make a big difference. The members on this forum will weed though all the BS and that will hold more water than anything.
It will come down to if both the casinos and customers can benefit somehow.
Looks like you had a past, and you might be still paying for it when having business dealings with casinos, perhaps thats some deserved consequences.
If you truly put all of that in the past, you'll eventually build up a good reputation and that will fade.
Results will be the major issue.
People are probably concerned about a few things. will personal information be safe? Will most offers be available to them? Will you go out of business next month?
There is no money in Facebook groups unless you are posting affiliate links and people purchase through that. Facebook basically restricts what posts people see so it's pointless to think anyone could make money in that fashion. We had 1 affiliate code for Slot Play Coupons where we made $2.50 when we had the myVegas group. 20 max were purchased for $50. Pretty pointless again...
Quote: heretobustfraudSeriously Brad just answer me this and I will leave it alone. Why do you delete and ban members with legitment questions about something they paid for? I am sure people that may be on the fence are curious as well. You keep avoiding the question. Please stop playing the victim card and just answer the question or maybe someone that is not me or baz can ask it so you are not "feeding the trolls"
I do have a challenge for a forum member following this. If you have a Vegas trip planned in the next 60 days and would like your offered matched at Tropicana Las Vegas (Comp Hotel/Slot Play/Food) let me know. All we ask is you post your experience with the booking process and redemption. We would need an simple image of your offer first and will be glad to send you a code for a Gold membership. You will be able to request your match immediately online.
Also I agree with not bashing the coupon books. They have been doing it a long time and it is always best to build your business own your own merits, not by bashing others.
All of that said, I am interested in the card just for the match play at Trop. I would be willing to buy the Gold level with the guarantee on your end that if they dont match my offer of 4 nights, $200 in food credit and $820 in free play at the Trop 100%, you will refund double my money. Naturally I will ask that both monies be held by a mutually agreed upon member of this forum. My next trip will be early 2015. Let me know.
Quote: BozCan you explain the value in spending an extra $240 on the top card? All I see is an extra free mid week room and VIP parking along with a extra 5% discount at a few restaurants.
Also I agree with not bashing the coupon books. They have been doing it a long time and it is always best to build your business own your own merits, not by bashing others.
All of that said, I am interested in the card just for the match play at Trop. I would be willing to buy the Gold level with the guarantee on your end that if they dont match my offer of 4 nights, $200 in food credit and $820 in free play at the Trop 100%, you will refund double my money. Naturally I will ask that both monies be held by a mutually agreed upon member of this forum. My next trip will be early 2015. Let me know.
How about you test our Vegas Rover Deals card program? If you can provide me with a copy of your offer I will gladly send you a code for a 1 year Gold Vegas Rover membership. All I would ask is you submit your online request for your match offer for a future date and report on the process for other members to see. Let me know.
Quote: AxelWolfPromotion ending in .......5,4,3,2,1, 0
AxelWolf,
I will offer the same challenge to you.
Brad
Quote: ohiovegasguyAxelWolf,
I will offer the same challenge to you.
Brad
I wonder if someone could just contact Tropicana directly and ask them to match your offer from another property and eliminate the middle man
