EvenBob
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December 13th, 2014 at 2:39:47 PM permalink
Quote: Tanko


Senator Warren is spot on in this speech:



She has so much Native American blood,
why is she dressed like a white. She
should have a headdress on at least. What
a joke she is..

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petroglyph
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December 13th, 2014 at 2:51:47 PM permalink
Quote: Gandler

No to link Iraq with Al Queada.

Which was the main reason to go to Iraq, though it would be good to know.



So, with no link between Iraq and OSB, so no link with 911, so no reason to torture folks from Afghanistan because it was the Saudi's behind the attack? The PNAC neocon dream logic really breaks down if you don't understand the agenda. Look at the links I provided today upthread about focusing on the wrong torture report.

The neocon agenda was/is to produce reasons to divvy up MENA.
Gandler
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December 13th, 2014 at 3:00:45 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

So, with no link between Iraq and OSB, so no link with 911, so no reason to torture folks from Afghanistan because it was the Saudi's behind the attack? The PNAC neocon dream logic really breaks down if you don't understand the agenda. Look at the links I provided today upthread about focusing on the wrong torture report.

The neocon agenda was/is to produce reasons to divvy up MENA.



I never said Saudi Arabia was behind the attack. Some of the attackers happened to have Saudi Arabian origin but that is happenstance.

However what do you mean "divy up the Middle East" and what NeoCon plan is this?
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terapined
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December 13th, 2014 at 4:44:06 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

She has so much Native American blood,
why is she dressed like a white. She
should have a headdress on at least. What
a joke she is..


Wow, modern Indians wear headdress? Maybe at Washington football games. (refuse to print the slur name of that team)
Brad Carson doesn't wear a headdress
Markwayne Mullin doesn't wear a headdress
Both dress as "white" no headdress. Both American Indians in congress.
Small mistake versus giving Wall Street the ability to wreck the economy.
Lets create a mountain out of a small mistake and let the whole USA economy go down the toilet.
The priorities are amazing.
Is this a joke :-)
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petroglyph
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December 13th, 2014 at 4:51:57 PM permalink
Quote: Gandler

I never said Saudi Arabia was behind the attack. Some of the attackers happened to have Saudi Arabian origin but that is happenstance.

However what do you mean "divy up the Middle East" and what NeoCon plan is this?



No, you did not say Saudi anything as far as I know? I did, I didn't blame the Saudi government directly but I will say again that 15 of the 18 hijackers were Saudi nationals with some evidence stating collusion and financing coming from top sources within the gov. I tried following your logic trail about the reasons for going to war with Iraq. I think most are agreed it isn't because of 911, do it made no sense to attack Iraq as they had nothing to do with it. Also why torture captured Afhani's and try to force evidence linking Saddam who was enemies with Alqueda, which never existed in Iraq pre- war.

You have declared your position regards being neocon. The neocon agenda in MENA is synomous with PNAC.

https://web.archive.org/web/20130609155105/http://www.newamericancentury.org/aboutpnac.htm

Also link to article by PCR on Neocon:http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=1726

If you dislike the anti war source for article by PCR who is rarely questioned, try search engine for other source.

Please read:http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=12730
Face
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December 13th, 2014 at 5:12:59 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

Wow, modern Indians wear headdress?



Sure do. But they are part of ceremonial dress that must be earned. To don one without earning it is the height of offense, similar to Justin Beiber hoisting the Stanley Cup, or the guy who claims he "served in Vietnam" when all he did was drive a supply truck from Nantucket to Poughkeepsie on the weekends.
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aladyat42
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December 13th, 2014 at 5:24:47 PM permalink
I will mention that team,s name. redskins. What a great heritage is being that name. The first coach was an Indian and the team was named after him. as a native american he did not have to serve in ww2. But he did have to serve time in jail as a draft dodger as he was not an Indian after all. What a proud heritage


for that Washington team.
Gandler
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December 13th, 2014 at 5:26:36 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

No, you did not say Saudi anything as far as I know? I did, I didn't blame the Saudi government directly but I will say again that 15 of the 18 hijackers were Saudi nationals with some evidence stating collusion and financing coming from top sources within the gov. I tried following your logic trail about the reasons for going to war with Iraq. I think most are agreed it isn't because of 911, do it made no sense to attack Iraq as they had nothing to do with it. Also why torture captured Afhani's and try to force evidence linking Saddam who was enemies with Alqueda, which never existed in Iraq pre- war.

You have declared your position regards being neocon. The neocon agenda in MENA is synomous with PNAC.

https://web.archive.org/web/20130609155105/http://www.newamericancentury.org/aboutpnac.htm

Also link to article by PCR on Neocon:http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=1726

If you dislike the anti war source for article by PCR who is rarely questioned, try search engine for other source.

Please read:http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=12730



In the process of reading them now.

But I want to ask you, what is your definition of a NeoCon? Because I think you (not just you, most people in general) claim that a lot of people have this philosophy incorrectly. I can't think of a single American politician that is a true NeoCon by the strict philosophical definition. And very view public figure in general.
Douglas Murray (posted video of him earlier) who is British is one who comes to mind as a true NeoCon, but he is just a writer.

But who do you view as NeoCon? And what would you call Neoconservative?
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Tanko
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December 13th, 2014 at 6:42:40 PM permalink
Quote: Face

... or the guy who claims he "served in Vietnam" when all he did was drive a supply truck from Nantucket to Poughkeepsie on the weekends.



Stolen Valor:

Gandler
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December 13th, 2014 at 7:00:13 PM permalink
Quote: Tanko

Stolen Valor:



If anyone is in a uniform at a mall or store they are fake. (unless they are obviously a recruiter).

You can't wear that uniform offpost when you are not working.
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