mickeycrimm
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December 6th, 2014 at 6:13:41 AM permalink
Quote: RS

And some people do fit a profile..



When I was working the small towns of northern Nevada I got profiled myself
But not like you think. Sitting in a bar having a drink some asshole would ask me the inevitable "are u a narc?" My standard reply was "damn right i am. But tell u what I'm gonna do. I"m gonna let u go this time."
The frickin' idiots. If i was a narc i would't be clean cut, shaved and wearing nice clothes. I'd have long hair, beard, tats, grungy clothes. WhT idiots
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NJchief
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December 6th, 2014 at 6:53:40 AM permalink
Here is an article from a New Jersey paper today.


Last year, the county made $440,832.53 from the sale of seized property, giving $234,604.57 to local municipalities, according to the annual reports.

“The point of using forfeiture is that it’s a law enforcement tool for deterrence," Sean D. McMurtry, head of the Prosecutor’s Office Forfeiture Unit, said in an interview last week. “We’re not out to make money on this.’’
SFB
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December 6th, 2014 at 8:02:34 AM permalink
Quote: NJchief

Here is an article from a New Jersey paper today.

http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2014/12/civil_forfeiture_on_the_rise_in_mercer_county_drawing_criticism.html#incart_river

Last year, the county made $440,832.53 from the sale of seized property, giving $234,604.57 to local municipalities, according to the annual reports.

“The point of using forfeiture is that it’s a law enforcement tool for deterrence," Sean D. McMurtry, head of the Prosecutor’s Office Forfeiture Unit, said in an interview last week. “We’re not out to make money on this.’’



And that is the problem.

The "locals" make money off of this. Mercer County got $440k, and used $234k to buy toys for the local police.

If they take it, they get to use it. If they have to give some back? Oh, Well. They are still ahead of the game.

Many of the forfeiture cases are folks who are involved in illegal trade.

Still, I think it is a slippery slope when the guy on the street making the stop gets to be the judge and jury about YOUR assets. I do not fit the profile, whatever it is, but when I get stopped, (I have a lead foot), and they ask to search, my answer, is "No". I have nothing to hide, and no matter what, I am not in a hurry at that point. Yes, you can get a warrant. But that is PITA for them and takes time. That is OK. I have the time.

You will find nothing.

And I will call my appointment and reschedule.

The erosion of the fourth amendment in these particular cases in astounding.

Here is the Supreme Court decision that started of all this: Bennis Vs Michigan Mr. Bennis decides to get a BJ in Detroit, and the Wayne County Prosecutor takes his car that is owned jointly with his wife. (77 Pontiac, the crime was in 1988, How much is that car worth?) She files a lawsuit to return the car, as an innocent party, and the SCOTUS sides with the Prosecutor. And after that the CF laws started to expand quickly.

This isn't just about driving with cash. The local authorities take your assets, and then YOU have to fight to get them back. But it is the world we live in now...

SFB
EvenBob
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December 6th, 2014 at 9:05:44 PM permalink
Quote: NJchief

r
Last year, the county made $440,832.53 from the sale of seized property, ’



Most of is not from traffic stops. A lot of
it is unclaimed seized stolen property,
or from drug busts. All counties have
auctions every year to get rid of it,
been doing it for decades. There are
always tons of bicycles and electronics
and even cars.
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bobsims
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December 7th, 2014 at 4:29:52 PM permalink
Quote: SFB

And that is the problem.

The "locals" make money off of this. Mercer County got $440k, and used $234k to buy toys for the local police.

If they take it, they get to use it. If they have to give some back? Oh, Well. They are still ahead of the game.

Many of the forfeiture cases are folks who are involved in illegal trade.

Still, I think it is a slippery slope when the guy on the street making the stop gets to be the judge and jury about YOUR assets. I do not fit the profile, whatever it is, but when I get stopped, (I have a lead foot), and they ask to search, my answer, is "No". I have nothing to hide, and no matter what, I am not in a hurry at that point. Yes, you can get a warrant. But that is PITA for them and takes time. That is OK. I have the time.

You will find nothing.

And I will call my appointment and reschedule.

The erosion of the fourth amendment in these particular cases in astounding.

Here is the Supreme Court decision that started of all this: Bennis Vs Michigan Mr. Bennis decides to get a BJ in Detroit, and the Wayne County Prosecutor takes his car that is owned jointly with his wife. (77 Pontiac, the crime was in 1988, How much is that car worth?) She files a lawsuit to return the car, as an innocent party, and the SCOTUS sides with the Prosecutor. And after that the CF laws started to expand quickly.

This isn't just about driving with cash. The local authorities take your assets, and then YOU have to fight to get them back. But it is the world we live in now...

SFB



The more government we have the more government abuses we will have. Something the blacks and the Occupy crowd are too dense to realize.
onenickelmiracle
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December 7th, 2014 at 5:39:51 PM permalink
Quote: bobsims

Quote: SFB

And that is the problem.

The "locals" make money off of this. Mercer County got $440k, and used $234k to buy toys for the local police.

If they take it, they get to use it. If they have to give some back? Oh, Well. They are still ahead of the game.

Many of the forfeiture cases are folks who are involved in illegal trade.

Still, I think it is a slippery slope when the guy on the street making the stop gets to be the judge and jury about YOUR assets. I do not fit the profile, whatever it is, but when I get stopped, (I have a lead foot), and they ask to search, my answer, is "No". I have nothing to hide, and no matter what, I am not in a hurry at that point. Yes, you can get a warrant. But that is PITA for them and takes time. That is OK. I have the time.

You will find nothing.

And I will call my appointment and reschedule.

The erosion of the fourth amendment in these particular cases in astounding.

Here is the Supreme Court decision that started of all this: Bennis Vs Michigan Mr. Bennis decides to get a BJ in Detroit, and the Wayne County Prosecutor takes his car that is owned jointly with his wife. (77 Pontiac, the crime was in 1988, How much is that car worth?) She files a lawsuit to return the car, as an innocent party, and the SCOTUS sides with the Prosecutor. And after that the CF laws started to expand quickly.

This isn't just about driving with cash. The local authorities take your assets, and then YOU have to fight to get them back. But it is the world we live in now...

SFB



The more government we have the more government abuses we will have. Something the blacks and the Occupy crowd are too dense to realize.

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rxwine
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February 12th, 2015 at 8:09:27 PM permalink
Not sure if this is useful in stops where asset seizures may occur, but thought it was interesting. You may notice he is staying behind a closed car window.



You can read the details here.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/02/11/florida-dui-warren-redlich/23236797/
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Toes14
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February 12th, 2015 at 8:40:38 PM permalink
What about putting in in a box and gift wrapping it with birthday wrapping paper? That seems like a good way to hide it in plain view. What cop is going to question someone having a birthday present in their car, no matter what the destination?
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Baccaratfrom79
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February 12th, 2015 at 8:50:25 PM permalink
Quote: Dieter

I am not a lawyer. (Talk to your lawyer.) I am not a banker. (Talk to your banker.)



Alternately, a high-daily limit ATM card (or 6) may work better. q]

There is a debit card you can withdraw $3000 from ATM's every day 24 hour period and as well you can do up to $9,999.99 bank cash advances for $35.00. And you can do multiple cash advances. I posted the card, it is great.

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rxwine
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February 12th, 2015 at 8:57:46 PM permalink
Convert your money to a gold bar(s).
Dip it in black paint (or some color). Toss it in the back seat.
When you get to your destination, clean it and then sell it.

I suppose, on average even with fluctuating gold prices it will all work out even no matter how many times you do it.

(too much trouble, but I mean, if you really need alternatives_)
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