sc15
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October 25th, 2014 at 6:24:29 PM permalink
Just wondering how marketing/hosts handle a new player coming in for the first time.

I anticipate ~ 8 hours of 1-5K / hand action on table games for the trip and want to get a comped room for 4 - 5 nights. I have history of this play at several vegas casinos, and am planning a trip to a non-vegas casino.

If I get a credit line (let's say 20K) approved, would I be able to get an up front comp for the room? What if I can't get the credit line? I find it kind of doubtful that a host would just take someone's word for it that they're going to play X amount and extend them a room.
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October 25th, 2014 at 6:58:17 PM permalink
Ask. And/or show them a high level player card from another casino.


Years ago, when Borgata first opened, my wife and I went to check it out. We get on the back of the line to get player cards. There's a gal there directing traffic. Me, being a smart-ass, say to her, "She's a Diamond at Harrah's". Her response was to pull us out of the line, to the front of a separate line where the next clerk took our info, gave us our player cards, and told us that my wife qualified for their top level, got $X00 of free play, and two free nights to use anytime in the next X months.


Like I said, ask and/or show them a high-level card from a competitor.
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October 25th, 2014 at 7:04:13 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Ask. And/or show them a high level player card from another casino.


Years ago, when Borgata first opened, my wife and I went to check it out. We get on the back of the line to get player cards. There's a gal there directing traffic. Me, being a smart-ass, say to her, "She's a Diamond at Harrah's". Her response was to pull us out of the line, to the front of a separate line where the next clerk took our info, gave us our player cards, and told us that my wife qualified for their top level, got $X00 of free play, and two free nights to use anytime in the next X months.


Like I said, ask and/or show them a high-level card from a competitor.



This is a solid tip and has worked for me at every new property except the Revel. I'll never forget the first time I went to Revel, showed them my Black Borgata card, and the clerk told me "we're different, we don't care about that."
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October 25th, 2014 at 7:39:45 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

This is a solid tip and has worked for me at every new property except the Revel. I'll never forget the first time I went to Revel, showed them my Black Borgata card, and the clerk told me "we're different, we don't care about that."



And that's why revel's closed.

Anyway, I can't do this, because I'm flying there. So I need to have the room (and preferably an airport pickup) booked prior to my arrival. So I would need to get a host over the phone or something. And I somehow doubt that they're going to ask me to text photos of my players cards to see if they want to give me a room or not, lol.
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October 25th, 2014 at 8:04:44 PM permalink
Can you check to see if there are any affiliated casinos with the ones you already have high cards with?

I just went to the Sands in Bethlehem PA and was surprised to see in their literature that they are owned by the same people as the Palazzo/Venetian.

I'm certain, based on my level of play, I could book a comped room at the Venetian by supplying them with my Sands account.

I would check out affiliations first.
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October 25th, 2014 at 8:16:26 PM permalink
Quote: sc15

And that's why revel's closed.

Anyway, I can't do this, because I'm flying there. So I need to have the room (and preferably an airport pickup) booked prior to my arrival. So I would need to get a host over the phone or something. And I somehow doubt that they're going to ask me to text photos of my players cards to see if they want to give me a room or not, lol.



You are overthinking this.

Before your trip, either establish a large credit line or wire front money to the casino. Then call the operator and ask for a VIP host.

You'll get assigned a host. He may require you to pay for your room up front and then comp back your folio at the end of your stay based on your play. Or he might just comp you up front.
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October 25th, 2014 at 8:26:11 PM permalink
Quote: sc15

And that's why revel's closed.

Anyway, I can't do this, because I'm flying there. So I need to have the room (and preferably an airport pickup) booked prior to my arrival. So I would need to get a host over the phone or something. And I somehow doubt that they're going to ask me to text photos of my players cards to see if they want to give me a room or not, lol.



Seriously if you're betting that much why do you need rooms upfront? Unless you are counting and plan on getting tossed out.

A few casinos have promotions that specifically deal with what your looking for, for 5x less average bet and significantly less credit.

Also you can Contact a independent host, he will tell you if you're eligible for a line of credit, if so, he will set you up.

If you know someone who is established at a casino, and they will vouch for you, Usually a host will take a chance and front you rooms.

Anyway if you truly are betting 1k to 5k per hand at an average casino (probably most)that's more than enough. Simply Book your rooms. When you arrive get a host. Tell the host you plan on betting $500 to $1500 per hand for 12 hrs or bust(lower than you actually plan on betting and losing ). Ask him if that's enough to care of your room and food at the end of your trip.

You will probably get more than you expect.
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October 25th, 2014 at 8:30:18 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

You are overthinking this.

Before your trip, either establish a large credit line or wire front money to the casino. Then call the operator and ask for a VIP host.

You'll get assigned a host. He may require you to pay for your room up front and then comp back your folio at the end of your stay based on your play. Or he might just comp you up front.



This is probably the easiest path to take.

I would get your credit line to show them you are serious, then ask for a host. If you play at the levels you indicate, I am quite sure your new host will be more than happy to comp your room, and probably all room charges, when you check out. After than, you should be able to get rooms comp'd before you go.
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October 25th, 2014 at 8:40:20 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Seriously if you're betting that much why do you need rooms upfront? Unless you are counting and plan on getting tossed out.

A few casinos have promotions that specifically deal with what your looking for, for 5x less average bet and significantly less credit.

Also you can Contact a independent host, he will tell you if you're eligible for a line of credit, if so, he will set you up.

If you know someone who is established at a casino, and they will vouch for you, Usually a host will take a chance and front you rooms.

Anyway if you truly are betting 1k to 5k per hand at an average casino (probably most)that's more than enough. Simply Book your rooms. When you arrive get a host. Tell the host you plan on betting $500 to $1500 per hand for 12 hrs or bust(lower than you actually plan on betting and losing ). Ask him if that's enough to care of your room and food at the end of your trip.

You will probably get more than you expect.



I'm not counting cards but I am indeed going for an AP trip, so getting an upfront comp on the room makes it less likely I get stuck with a bill for the room.

There's also no guarantee I'll get in as much play as I anticipate. Length of play will depend on game quality/availability and heat. Average bet will depend on game quality and table max.

If need be I'm willing to go on a conditional comp (since the trip is worth far more than the cost of the rooms), it's obviously just preferable to get it fronted.
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October 26th, 2014 at 3:02:03 PM permalink
How do you bet 1k-5k avg on a 20k credit line?

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