Kickass
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October 24th, 2014 at 2:07:51 PM permalink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEpZWGgJks

We are not guilty of anything but our cash are. About couple years ago, my brother had a road trip driving from California to New York.
And he got pull over in Philly when he was driving within the freeway speed limit. The cops asked about the cash and he luckily did not carry much.
Then the cop asked for permission to search the car. My brother was thinking that he had nothing to hide. So that, he allowed it. It is very easy to get robbed on the highway. The cops are working very hard to protect us from the criminals (Our own cash).
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FleaStiff
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October 24th, 2014 at 2:17:33 PM permalink
Turning the police into Bounty Hunters is always a mistake. Those training sessions and new toys come from seized money and its our money they are seizing.

Some people avoid certain states but its happening all over the place. Some people now try to avoid freeways entirely. Most of the cases that make "the news" are from people who can afford a lawyer or whose story in some how entertaining enough to merit some local coverage. Thousands of people can't afford lawyers or have waived the right to appeal the forfeiture to stay out of jail or to keep their kids from being seized until the parent's "criminal charges" are settled.
Canyonero
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October 24th, 2014 at 3:16:05 PM permalink
I saw that bit. Knowing that midterms are upon you guys in the U.S. and that most legislators are gonna be re-elected, I have another stupid foreigner question:

Are Americans cool with the police being able to just take their stuff?

If yes, wtf? I woud generally expect the police to pull me over and take my money in China or Vietnam or North Korea, but not the US.
Maybe you guys are saying "It *mostly* affects actual criminals so I am down with maybe losing a few thousand for a good cause."

If no, why aren't people using the democratic process (e.g. mid-terms) to get rid of it?
AZDuffman
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October 24th, 2014 at 3:29:36 PM permalink
Quote: Canyonero



Are Americans cool with the police being able to just take their stuff?



People are cool with the cops taking *someone else's* stuff. It all started in the 1980s and having the cops supposedly take the toys the high-level dope dealers had. With not enough of that group to go around, more and more people get robbed.

You will still get many people agree that "if you get pulled over for DUI you should lose your car on the spot!"

It is no longer the USA is now just considered "mostly free" and behind Estonia in freedom rankings.
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Buzzard
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October 24th, 2014 at 3:39:15 PM permalink
As for police in this country being different, depends on your point of reference. Josie was in a CNA class with several Russian girls. Two of them were under 21 and had been drinking in the mountains and driving home intoxicated. Josie said they would have been in real trouble if a policeman stopped them. But the girls said it would not have been a problem because they had lots of money on them. And both girls believed that !

Only thing I have never been pulled over for is DWB. But old habits die hard. Cop car coming from behind me, right turn ASAP.. Never a left, can get hung up too long.

Wait till states get a real green light on scanning plates into a data base ! Let's check where Buzzard's car had driven the last 2 weeks.
Any burglaries in that neighborhood ?
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FleaStiff
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October 24th, 2014 at 4:32:23 PM permalink
Quote: Canyonero

If no, why aren't people using the democratic process (e.g. mid-terms) to get rid of it?

Because when you come right down to it, Americans pretty much don't care about anything anymore and few bother to vote anyway.
Keyser
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October 24th, 2014 at 4:39:48 PM permalink
As long as voters act on feelings, rather than logic, we will continue losing civil rights under presidents like Obama.
petroglyph
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October 24th, 2014 at 6:48:14 PM permalink
Quote: Canyonero

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I have another stupid foreigner question:


Where do you live that the cops don't take your stuff? That sounds pretty cool, cops not taking your stuff hehe,hehehe [Beavis]. I can't imagine how much loot has gone missing from evidence lockers in just coke and cash alone. They have been taking our stuff since at least the roaring twenties, many just consider it the "vig".It's just that they are becoming greedier and more blatant about it.
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Are Americans cool with the police being able to just take their stuff?

No, but busy watching "Honey BooBoo" re-runs and eating government cheese.
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If no, why aren't people using the democratic process

Over 50% are too heavily invested in the status quo to complain loud enough for anyone to hear. That is democracy.
kenarman
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October 24th, 2014 at 7:55:07 PM permalink
When I was an underaged drinker in a small town the cops new all the cars and who would be in them and if they likely had any booze. Close to the end of their shift on a Saturday night we would get pulled over and the booze confiscated. Once they had enough for their own party they would stop. We all knew the system, we wouldn't face any charges they got free booze for their party.

A few years later when I was of age I got to join their parties and got most of my lost booze back a drink or two at a time. The town was small and remote enough that it was a first posting for the RCMP so the majority of the cops were quite young.
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petroglyph
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October 24th, 2014 at 9:34:52 PM permalink
Legal tax paying mmj shops are an easy hit for the cops who need some extra cash and smoke. They don't even have to draw their guns, they just like to. Busting state documented mmj dispensaries don't put up much of a threat to the swat, dea, dod, ddd, or bfd, they didn't even know they were breaking the law of having money that needed confiscating.

Fourty thousand laws enacted in 2012, we are each bound to be breaking at least one of them. We can't even find out what some of the laws are with the freedom of information act requests.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/24/dea-raid-medical-marijuana-los-angeles_n_6038926.html

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