strictlyAP
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September 29th, 2014 at 6:02:21 PM permalink
I hate posting things that are non gambling related but really need some advice
does anyone on here have any experiance in negotiating or purchasing domain names from the current owner
I obviouly know the wizard now does but the issue is I am dealing with a domain I need and the owner of it has not answered a single email, nor is he using it
any suggestions?
if this is your field im willing to compensate someone for their work
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miplet
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September 29th, 2014 at 6:16:11 PM permalink
When does the domain name expire? I've used Go Daddy's back order service with success.
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September 29th, 2014 at 6:38:13 PM permalink
Dec 13th but it's been owned since 2001 according to Whois.com
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September 29th, 2014 at 6:48:04 PM permalink
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Dec 13th but it's been owned since 2001 according to Whois.com



I would wait until then to see if it is renewed first. Was it a site that was used and is now a defunct company or has it been unused for a long time? Maybe the emails are going to an unchecked email.
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September 29th, 2014 at 6:53:28 PM permalink
It hasn't ever been used and it's owned by a Chinese guy in the Netherlands
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miplet
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September 29th, 2014 at 7:05:12 PM permalink
networksolutions and Godaddy and others offer the services you might want.
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September 29th, 2014 at 9:43:59 PM permalink
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I hate posting things that are non gambling related but really need some advice
does anyone on here have any experiance in negotiating or purchasing domain names from the current owner
I obviouly know the wizard now does but the issue is I am dealing with a domain I need and the owner of it has not answered a single email, nor is he using it
any suggestions?
if this is your field im willing to compensate someone for their work

Contact the company that sold the domain they probably have the persons contact information and may inform them you're interested. Someone contacted me using that method and purchased one from me.

I'm not sure how domain registration works, however I think I got scammed by a "reputable" registration company. If my problem isn't resolved to my satisfaction, I will transfer all my other domain names, then out the company.

I searched a domain name, something like, gambling.com (not that strong but similar, Ill not say exact name yet because my personal information is attached, since I cant edit it to private). The name came up available on 2 different sites(including Go Daddy), I then reserved it and purchased a what they called a top level domain name from a different place. It appeared in my control panel (took screen shot) and is still there, however I can not use it, I get an error message.

I contacted support, they said, "the problem would be solved and management personally would approve and grant it"(WTF? It already was granted to me, so I thought). I asked why management needed to deal with it at all, it's always been instant? I just got some BS saying this "top level domain name"

She claimed Suddenly, it was no longer available. She kept changing stories, saying everything from, it was going to be granted ASAP don't worry to it was already pre-registered. She refused to transfer me to management or even a different agent. I'm waiting to find out more.

It's seems to me the system knows what names might be valuable. It seems they are finding a way to not make the sale official for x period of time while someone assess a value, then they grab them for themselves(probably some fake person) and auction them off to a higher bidder.

Another company claimed I didn't have auto reserve set for a good domain name that I had in 2007 and now it appears they themselves own it. under the name John Smith.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 29th, 2014 at 11:13:45 PM permalink
The times I've had to purchase domain names from people, they've been squatters - they deliberately buy the domain name, and then hope someone is more interested than they are, and try to sell it to them. They sent us emails offering it for about 40x typical 1 year registration rate, we counteroffered about 15x since it was our trademark (with a .net or something instead of a .com). They didn't fight further, so we probably should have tried negotiating harder. "Senior leadership" just wanted it done, and suggested a not-quite lowball offer to speed things along.

The reality is, if the owner isn't looking to sell, there's minimal cost to him to not sell... maybe $1 a month or so to keep renewing it.

I'd suggest not going by email - use a real snail mail letter. There should be 3 addresses listed in whois, likely contacts are admin & registrant- tech is, uhh, "optimistic" if you're looking to buy the domain name (although, if it's an individual, they're probably all the same). Say you're interested in the domain name (specify which one, owner may have several), state that it appears to be unused, and ask if it's available for purchase.

An oversized, important looking envelope might help. Maybe worth it to fedex the letter to add an air of importance (and give you some confirmation that someone got it).


If you have a trademark that matches the domain you may have a valid case for complaining to the registrar and asking that it be transferred to you. Your chances for this are better if the date on your trademark is earlier than the date the domain was originally registered. Your lawyer may be helpful with this process. (I would guess it's a straightforward demand letter.) Domain squatting is increasingly frowned upon.


It's rough out there, good luck.
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September 29th, 2014 at 11:25:21 PM permalink
I've been trying to get a particular domain for years. It's been used for a while and now being squatted on. I was offered it at one point. I told the seller after hearing his initial offer that I wouldn't waste his time by counter offering. It's not worth that much. He still has it, sucking away $10/year. Fine by me. Waited 20 years.
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October 1st, 2014 at 4:08:23 PM permalink
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...any suggestions?
if this is your field im willing to compensate someone for their work


My neighbor is in this business. I will send you more info by PM.

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