What happens if you refuse to sign a marker?
September 28th, 2014 at 1:02:14 PM
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Since in vegas, they give you the chips prior to signing the marker (which is a huge convenience since it takes time to get the paperwork ready), I'm just curious what would happen if someone refuses to sign it. I'm sure it's something that happens.
Presumably they would call the police and have you arrested for theft.
Presumably they would call the police and have you arrested for theft.
September 28th, 2014 at 1:22:12 PM
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Why would anyone do that (not signing the paper)?
Once the ticket is printed out, you own the casino that amount of money regardless you sign the paper or not.
I don't think they will arrest you for theft, instead they will ask you to go to the marker office or cashier cage to pay the marker back (with your own cash or with
the chips you have).
And likely they will close your account after you pay off the account.
Once the ticket is printed out, you own the casino that amount of money regardless you sign the paper or not.
I don't think they will arrest you for theft, instead they will ask you to go to the marker office or cashier cage to pay the marker back (with your own cash or with
the chips you have).
And likely they will close your account after you pay off the account.
winning streaks come and go, losing streak never ends.
September 28th, 2014 at 1:28:18 PM
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Not sure, but people do a lot of stupid things in casinos when they lose.
And the marker is not valid without a signature. Which is why in most places outside las vegas, you sign the marker first before they give you chips.
And the marker is not valid without a signature. Which is why in most places outside las vegas, you sign the marker first before they give you chips.
September 28th, 2014 at 1:31:01 PM
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More comments:
1. Remember when you opened you marker account, you already signed an agreement to pay back all your debts.
2. The ticket (with money amount) doesn't really need your signature in order to do an electronic transaction (I think it called ACH or something).
1. Remember when you opened you marker account, you already signed an agreement to pay back all your debts.
2. The ticket (with money amount) doesn't really need your signature in order to do an electronic transaction (I think it called ACH or something).
winning streaks come and go, losing streak never ends.
September 28th, 2014 at 1:31:42 PM
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Quote: sc15
And the marker is not valid without a signature. Which is why in most places outside las vegas, you sign the marker first before they give you chips.
That is not true. see my second comment above
winning streaks come and go, losing streak never ends.
September 28th, 2014 at 1:53:52 PM
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Well according to this:
http://www.shouselaw.com/nevada/casino-marker.html
Under the "Invalid Marker" category, it states:
Nevada D.A.s cannot prosecute cases involving the following types of markers:
markers that do not show the payee (the casino), the date, the amount of money, or your signature
And banks will not accept an unsigned check, so they won't accept an unsigned marker either.
http://www.shouselaw.com/nevada/casino-marker.html
Under the "Invalid Marker" category, it states:
Nevada D.A.s cannot prosecute cases involving the following types of markers:
markers that do not show the payee (the casino), the date, the amount of money, or your signature
And banks will not accept an unsigned check, so they won't accept an unsigned marker either.
September 28th, 2014 at 2:04:40 PM
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I am not a lawyer and not going to discuss this much further.
That is for the criminal case.
It also says: "If your attorney can show that your markers fall outside of Nevada's bad check statute, then the D.A. should dismiss the case. The casino may try to sue you civilly at that point".
That is for the criminal case.
It also says: "If your attorney can show that your markers fall outside of Nevada's bad check statute, then the D.A. should dismiss the case. The casino may try to sue you civilly at that point".
winning streaks come and go, losing streak never ends.
September 28th, 2014 at 2:55:59 PM
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They're going to have video evidence of you accepting the chips with no money coming into the drop, eyewitness accounts of your request for a marker, and the set-up documents to prove your intent to defraud and receipt of the money. Sounds like a one-way ticket to a guilty verdict to me; technicalities are not going to save you.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
September 28th, 2014 at 3:27:55 PM
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Quote: beachbumbabsThey're going to have video evidence of you accepting the chips with no money coming into the drop, eyewitness accounts of your request for a marker, and the set-up documents to prove your intent to defraud and receipt of the money. Sounds like a one-way ticket to a guilty verdict to me; technicalities are not going to save you.
Oh, there's no doubt you'd be guilty for some kind of fraud or theft, just curious as to how the casino would handle it
