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blount2000
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September 9th, 2014 at 8:40:16 AM permalink
Did I win $25,000? Doubtful, but I don't know yet since the prize has not been revealed.

I will occasionally pick up a scratch-off lottery ticket when going into the gas station, and I always scratch off the "results" areas of each line first to see if there are any winners. And if any line IS a winner, I'll then go back and scratch off the "prize" section to see what was won.

My infrequent ticket purchases have typically resulted in winning nothing, with an occasional ticket having a single line winner with maybe a $2 prize (or a free ticket).

However, the ticket I picked up last night actually has all 8 lines being winners (see pic below), which was a pleasant surprise and is a first for me. Ever the optimist, I'd like to think that surely a ticket with all winning lines would almost certainly have a correspondingly robust prize to go along with it!

I'm somewhat reluctant to go ahead and scratch off and reveal the "prize" sections, since I have a suspicion that I like the feeling of holding a ticket with a POTENTIAL value of $25,000 versus holding a ticket with an ACTUAL value of much less.


The minimum potential value of this ticket is $8, and the maximum potential value is $25,000. So I can average those two numbers and expect to win $12,504. That's how it works, right? ;)

I guess I'll ultimately find out.

You serious, Clark?
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September 9th, 2014 at 8:47:46 AM permalink
Good luck with the results! I've had something similar happen to me, with multiple winners on the same ticket, all relatively low amounts. I don't know what the different payout options are for this game, but I'd guess you get prizes ranging from $1 to $5 (maybe $10).
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September 9th, 2014 at 8:50:14 AM permalink
Attaboy!

So, each line has a prize and they can be different. Say, 6 @ $2, 1 @ $10 and 1 @ $25,000? Good luck.
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September 9th, 2014 at 8:57:57 AM permalink
Wow. Cool.

Tell ya what. If you haven't scratched it yet, I'll by it from you for $100. ;)


Quote: blount2000

The minimum potential value of this ticket is $8, and the maximum potential value is $25,000. So I can average those two numbers and expect to win $12,504. That's how is works, right? ;)

I think the minimum would be $16. At least in NJ the minimum prize per line is the purchase price. Anything less is kinda douchey. And I'm not sure if simple averaging is the correct EV.
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September 9th, 2014 at 9:00:09 AM permalink
I will offer you $50 for the ticket before you reveal the prizes.
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September 9th, 2014 at 9:01:39 AM permalink
I don't know much about lottery tickets but I'm wondering if this one would need some $ symbols for a top prize. I hope not for your sake.
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September 9th, 2014 at 9:09:13 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

I don't know much about lottery tickets but I'm wondering if this one would need some $ symbols for a top prize. I hope not for your sake.



this is what I was thinking as well
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September 9th, 2014 at 9:11:31 AM permalink
$50 bid.
I have a $50 bid from the gentleman in the corner.
Do I hear $75? 75, 75?
$100!
I have $100 bid from the teddy bear in the front row.
Do I hear $150? Who will give me $150.

Come on folks, we know this is a winning ticket.
Who's going to be the lucky owner of this ticket?
$150? Am I bid $150?
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September 9th, 2014 at 9:13:36 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

I don't know much about lottery tickets but I'm wondering if this one would need some $ symbols for a top prize. I hope not for your sake.



I think the $ sign would be under the parts that have not been uncovered yet.
So 3 or $3
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September 9th, 2014 at 9:17:16 AM permalink
Hey blount,
When you do decide to reveal the prizes, let us play along.
Scratch off one row, and post the pic.

Heck, this could even become a Deal or No Deal contest.
You could get new bids on the ticket after each prize row is revealed.

Surely your offers would change as each prize is revealed.
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September 9th, 2014 at 9:27:04 AM permalink
Good luck with this - hope you get the $25k!!!
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September 9th, 2014 at 9:29:43 AM permalink
Does back of the card list any prize amounts? tn lottery just lists top 3 unclaimed prizes.
PrizeAmount
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$500172
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September 9th, 2014 at 9:42:23 AM permalink
If I were you, I wouldn't get my hopes up on a $25k win.

"Count your chickens before your baskets" or something like that.
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September 9th, 2014 at 9:47:39 AM permalink
Easy on the chickens...
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September 9th, 2014 at 9:48:09 AM permalink
Quote: RS

If I were you, I wouldn't get my hopes up on a $25k win.

"Count your chickens before your baskets" or something like that.



I would guarantee that it is not 25k. The 25k would probably be on 1 line. Being that there are 8 winners they are most likely each $2, $5, or $10. I would guess $2 but would not be surprised if they are $5.

I don't think your thinking of a 12k average works since the prizes are weighted. Your line of thinking would be the same that if you walk up to a 25k top prize slot machine that you should project a win of 12k.
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September 9th, 2014 at 9:59:12 AM permalink
Yeah, I don't have any illusions of what the chances are of it actually being a $25K winning ticket. It's fun to think about though!

Quote: RaleighCraps

Hey blount,
When you do decide to reveal the prizes, let us play along.
Scratch off one row, and post the pic.

Heck, this could even become a Deal or No Deal contest.
You could get new bids on the ticket after each prize row is revealed.

Surely your offers would change as each prize is revealed.


I'll definitely be happy to reveal the prizes one at a time and post the pics! Although I'm assuming folks are just joking about wanting to buy the ticket.


Miplet, the back of the card doesn't have a list or anything of what all prize amounts could be won.

You serious, Clark?
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September 9th, 2014 at 10:11:00 AM permalink
Quote: blount2000

Although I'm assuming folks are just joking about wanting to buy the ticket.



I was serious about buying the ticket for $50 although redeeming it could be quite an expense if I have to go to Tennessee to collect.

I would gladly offer you $25 to split the ticket 50/50 and you handle redeeming it.
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September 9th, 2014 at 11:00:17 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

Quote: blount2000

Although I'm assuming folks are just joking about wanting to buy the ticket.



I was serious about buying the ticket for $50 although redeeming it could be quite an expense if I have to go to Tennessee to collect.

I would gladly offer you $25 to split the ticket 50/50 and you handle redeeming it.



$25, $25 to be a co-owner.
Do I hear $50 ?
fiddy, fiddy, fiddy. Do I hear fiddy?

The first reveal could drive the cost up by 10x. Get in while you can.
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September 9th, 2014 at 11:01:25 AM permalink
Quote: blount2000

Did I win $25,000? Doubtful, but I don't know yet since the prize has not been revealed.

I will occasionally pick up a scratch-off lottery ticket when going into the gas station, and I always scratch off the "results" areas of each line first to see if there are any winners. And if any line IS a winner, I'll then go back and scratch off the "prize" section to see what was won.



Around here, there are self-service "check for winners" terminals... I scratch off the barcode area and scan it to see if it won.

One of my ex'es enjoyed the act of scratching off the obscuring layer far more than I do.
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September 9th, 2014 at 11:11:49 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

Around here, there are self-service "check for winners" terminals... I scratch off the barcode area and scan it to see if it won.

One of my ex'es enjoyed the act of scratching off the obscuring layer far more than I do.



I don't know if this is applicable everywhere, but the scratch-offs here have three letter codes on them that will "spell" out the winning amount. Like FIV (5), TWF (25), FTY (50). Losers usually contain some combination of P, D, B, and Z. They are scattered around but usually down near the bar code.
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September 9th, 2014 at 12:13:07 PM permalink
Most likely you won $8. At least in Ohio, all total prizes are listed on the back, so you're almost guaranteed to win something divisible by 8 and guaranteed to not win $25000.
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September 9th, 2014 at 12:23:56 PM permalink
I would guess it's worth $30 to $50. I'm waiting for the play by play. Good luck.
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September 9th, 2014 at 12:25:47 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Most likely you won $8. At least in Ohio, all total prizes are listed on the back, so you're almost guaranteed to win something divisible by 8 and guaranteed to not win $25000.



I doubt the lottery is going to waste eight $2 winners on one ticket. They would get more mileage out of eight scratch-offs winning $2 each.
My bet is there is at least one line worth >$100.
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September 9th, 2014 at 12:34:06 PM permalink
Bets on the total value? O/U $39.50?
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September 9th, 2014 at 12:42:33 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Bets on the total value? O/U $39.50?



I think that's a fair line. I like the under, but just barely, not enough to wager on it.
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September 9th, 2014 at 12:46:56 PM permalink
That's ok, I didn't tell you how much juice I charge
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September 9th, 2014 at 12:51:41 PM permalink
Someone with more knowledge about scratch tickets: are symbols assigned randomly, or is each ticket crafted? I imagine the latter to guarantee X-number of jackpot winners, etc. that would explain why "one-off-the-jackpot" tickets are so prevalent.

If that's the case, I'm predicting a value of $22. Six $2 prizes, and two $5 prizes for good measure. I hope for the OP that it's more though, because that's a very remarkable ticket. If it was less than $30, I'd almost rather keep the ticket.
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September 9th, 2014 at 12:59:42 PM permalink
I'd almost guareenteed it's worthless as a big winner all the prizes are going to be the same or close in other words it will never ever be 1000 10000 5 50 50. A common winner would be 25 each line for 200 maybe 2 lines at 50 each for 250 check the website there are never odd prize amounts it is 100 percent not 25k or even 10k any big win would have to be divisible by 8 and 8k is not a prize amount nor is 15k it cannot even be 800 at 100 per line because that is not a prize amount either I almost guarantee it's under 500 and even further assure it's under 300 and probably under 40
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September 9th, 2014 at 1:00:52 PM permalink
My guess is that it's worth at least $100.
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September 9th, 2014 at 1:01:37 PM permalink
http://i.imgur.com/uPx7LKD.jpg
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September 9th, 2014 at 2:54:12 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I was serious about buying the ticket for $50 although redeeming it could be quite an expense if I have to go to Tennessee to collect.

I would gladly offer you $25 to split the ticket 50/50 and you handle redeeming it.



I like the idea of $25 to split the ticket 50/50, so that sounds good to me.

Please make a confirmation post if you are still willing to do that. If you've changed your mind and don't want to, no problem!

Also, I assume you are ok with the plan for me to reveal the prizes on here one at a time? If not, be sure to let me know.
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September 9th, 2014 at 2:58:33 PM permalink
Scratch one line per day and coordinate it with the Wizards up coming announcement next week.
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September 9th, 2014 at 3:06:23 PM permalink
Quote: blount2000

I like the idea of $25 to split the ticket 50/50, so that sounds good to me.

Please make a confirmation post if you are still willing to do that. If you've changed your mind and don't want to, no problem!

Also, I assume you are ok with the plan for me to reveal the prizes on here one at a time? If not, be sure to let me know.




I confirm that I will give you $25 to split the ticket 50/50. Just PM me your Paypal info or another method to pay you.

Feel free to unveil any way you would like.
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September 9th, 2014 at 3:18:23 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Bets on the total value? O/U $39.50?

Under!!!!
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September 9th, 2014 at 3:32:35 PM permalink
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Under!!!!

I'll bet $30 on the under. Maybe we settle with an unscratched $30 lotto ticket.
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September 9th, 2014 at 3:39:17 PM permalink
ill book any amount up to 500 that its under 30 dollars
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September 9th, 2014 at 3:40:33 PM permalink
Quote: strictlyAP

ill book any amount up to 500 that its under 30 dollars



Are you taking the under or offering the under?
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September 9th, 2014 at 3:45:12 PM permalink
im taking under
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September 9th, 2014 at 3:46:53 PM permalink
I may even book more, im pretty certain of these- see my pic
its a 30 dollar ticket

the 100 amounts and 500 are within one prize group of awards
meaning there are no 150 200 or amounts

you would never see a 100 win with a 2500 award as well
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September 9th, 2014 at 3:52:11 PM permalink
my best guess is an absolute max of 100 at 4 20s and 4 5's but ive never even seen that
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September 9th, 2014 at 3:56:58 PM permalink
Wait, you buy lottery tickets too?

Is there a play there?
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September 9th, 2014 at 4:00:01 PM permalink
Quote: strictlyAP

my best guess is an absolute max of 100 at 4 20s and 4 5's but ive never even seen that



I have probably bought only two or three scratch off tickets in my life. Is it relatively common to have a ticket where each row is a winner?
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September 9th, 2014 at 4:04:06 PM permalink
Quote: strictlyAP

ill book any amount up to 500 that its under 30 dollars


I will take $30 or over for $30. Confirmed?
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September 9th, 2014 at 4:04:24 PM permalink
there is a play but its nothing in the wolrd that anyone would think of so I would rather not discuss it in here
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September 9th, 2014 at 4:05:16 PM permalink
yes I 100% will book that pm me if you need to

do you want to settle via paypal or amazon gift cards?
id prefer amazon but up to you
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September 9th, 2014 at 4:10:56 PM permalink
im still going to book this, althought upon further examination you may have an edge- the most likely win is going to be 8 wins of 5 for forty dollars

less likely is 6 wins of a dollar and 2 of 2 dollars for 10 dollars
or 6 win of 2 dollar and 2 for 4 dollars

but im still booked
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September 9th, 2014 at 4:11:49 PM permalink
Quote: strictlyAP

yes I 100% will book that pm me if you need to

do you want to settle via paypal or amazon gift cards?
id prefer amazon but up to you



Does the Wizard get credit for Amazon Gift Cards purchased through his link?
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September 9th, 2014 at 5:34:03 PM permalink
DRich and I have PM'd and made our arrangements, so at the moment my plan is to scratch off (and post) the first prize box tomorrow morning before work.

Here's to hoping the first one is a biggie!
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September 9th, 2014 at 5:43:07 PM permalink
last chance for any takers- i have some action but willing to take some more from known members
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September 9th, 2014 at 5:54:15 PM permalink
voiding my bet offer, no takers anyways.
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