doubleluck
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September 1st, 2014 at 10:38:03 AM permalink
Quote: newshooter

To my knowledge, all OK casinos (unless during a particular promotion, etc.) charge an ante per hand.

Oklahoma state law requires that the ante be "paid" in order to have the right to play. I've never known Winstar or the other Choctaw casino in the Southwestern portion of the state to waive or pay the ante for the player. However, the Osage tribe and the Creek Tribes in the Northeastern portion of the state, specifically in Tulsa. routinely pay the ante for the player Sundays - Wednesdays. Additionally, the Quapaw tribe, who owns the Downstream Casino on the Oklahoma - Missouri border, pays the ante every day of the week. As an avid blackjack player, I'd never play at Windstar because of the ante and because each table has CSMs. However, I like playing double-deck in the Tulsa area at both the Creek & the Osage casinos on days with no ante.
midwestgb
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September 1st, 2014 at 11:15:26 AM permalink
I love Downstream casino, right along I-44 in the very NE corner of Oklahoma just a few miles from Joplin, MO. The place is a palace. Aside from the lack of an ante, pretty decent VP there as well.
Puckerbutt
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September 1st, 2014 at 11:26:52 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

I hear Oklahoma has such raw deals that its better to just keep going and save your money for Vegas where you get more bang for your buck.


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Dicenor33
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September 1st, 2014 at 12:23:32 PM permalink
Craps uses cards instead of dice. It suppose to reduce addiction. Well, government knows best.
doubleluck
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September 1st, 2014 at 12:53:49 PM permalink
Quote: Dicenor33

Craps uses cards instead of dice. It suppose to reduce addiction. Well, government knows best.

That's not the reason. The true reason is that the state already knows that dice and roulette wheels are much more "sinful" than cards.
rdw4potus
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September 1st, 2014 at 1:39:13 PM permalink
OK has some very fancy casinos and some very plain ones. There are some casinos with an ante and bad games, there are some with no ante and great games. As the rest of the country has eroded paytables, OK generally hasn't followed suit. It's one of the only places left where a person could find 3CP and UTH with the best possible paytables. BJ rules aren't bad either, in houses with no ante.

Winstar is pretty awesome. It's huge (like, Foxwoods big) and has multiple themes. But, it requires an ante everytime all the time. The poker room is crazy-busy, especially on weekends. Last time I was there, my friend spent the first 2 hours of our 3 hour visit just sitting on the list for a seat.

Casinos by Durant and by Wichita Falls (TX) are barely farther from Dallas and have better rules (like no ante...).

If poker is your only game, it's very easy to find action in Texas. Just find any fraternal lodge or firehouse and talk your way into their game.
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Wanderer
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September 1st, 2014 at 5:25:43 PM permalink
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Winstar is pretty awesome. It's huge (like, Foxwoods big) and has multiple themes.



I have heard a lot about Foxwoods. How does it compare to the high-end Vegas casinos?
mickeycrimm
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September 1st, 2014 at 7:29:48 PM permalink
Quote: Wanderer

Seriously? A 50 cent ante for Blackjack? That's ridiculous. I've never even heard of that. .



I'm not a blackjack expert but I was under the assumption that this type of blackjack was Class II. The house makes it's money off the 50 cent commission, but is not allowed to keep any of the winnings in the game itself. The money is returned to the players usually through promotions.

The first time I seen the 50 cent ante game was at Sandia in Albuquerque in 1995. It was an 8 deck game and anyone who made 4 blackjacks in a row won a $40,000 car.
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newshooter
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September 1st, 2014 at 7:31:03 PM permalink
Quote: doubleluck

Oklahoma state law requires that the ante be "paid" in order to have the right to play. I've never known Winstar or the other Choctaw casino in the Southwestern portion of the state to waive or pay the ante for the player. However, the Osage tribe and the Creek Tribes in the Northeastern portion of the state, specifically in Tulsa. routinely pay the ante for the player Sundays - Wednesdays. Additionally, the Quapaw tribe, who owns the Downstream Casino on the Oklahoma - Missouri border, pays the ante every day of the week. As an avid blackjack player, I'd never play at Windstar because of the ante and because each table has CSMs. However, I like playing double-deck in the Tulsa area at both the Creek & the Osage casinos on days with no ante.



You're right (of course, you knew that) about the Downstream. I forgot that they do not charge the player an ante. It's just so far from where I live (furthest part of the state), that I wouldn't consider driving there just to play blackjack. However, I still believe that (paying an ante per hand) to be the case at the Winstar. A phone call to someone in table games can confirm that easily.
newshooter
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September 1st, 2014 at 7:36:16 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Casinos by Durant and by Wichita Falls (TX) are barely farther from Dallas and have better rules (like no ante...).



I believe the closest OK casino to Wichita Falls, Texas, is the Kiowa casino, located north on I-44, just off of exit 1 in OK. Last time I was there 2 - 3 years ago, they charged the 50 cent ante per hand at blackjack and 3CP, and I assume all table games.

If they've changed that, I'd like to know, as I travel by there occasionally and would consider playing, so long as no ante was required.

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