AxelWolf
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July 2nd, 2014 at 12:44:39 AM permalink
So whats the deal with this? Laws etc etc. I'm not talking about fine print. How can one take advantage of this. Sure they may get a fine. I have to admit I don't want the money to go to some agency in the form of fines, or just have them correct the situation and take down the advertisement (it would be costly for them to do so, it seems permanent) I want them to do as they advertise or I want to benefit from the months of faults advertising.

Here is the situation: A small place used to have 99% payback machines, they have not had them for at least 1 year now. I told them 2 times the information is incorrect. They still BOLDLY advertise 99% PAYBACK. Its not just on some simple sign or sheet of paper, thousands of people see this per day. I think they best machines they now have is like 96%.

How long do they have to correct a situation like this once informed?

Any suggestions on how one can profit from this?

Why am I pissed and want to take advantage of them? This is the 3rd time this place has faults advertised different things. They made a bunch of promises and to me and I have yet to receive exactly what they claim I would get. They pass the buck and that gets passed back to them.

This is mostly due to someone who is incompetent regarding math. They even claimed 10% cash back one time both in writing verbally and on the website Very clearly.

Right now its the 99% payback they claim that I think is BS. Obviously they cant be held to a math mistake. The 99% they know full well is not true yet they don't change the advertising.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Tomspur
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July 2nd, 2014 at 12:55:38 AM permalink
There is a Gold's Gym close to my home on the 215 and Stephanie and outside, facing the highway they have a sign that says $9.99 per month, no contract needed.
There isn't a star or asterisk next to the sign, just a plain red and gold sign.

When I went in to query on my last holiday, they told me the $9.99 is only if you pay a penalty fee upfront (which is about $280) after which you will be charged $9.99 a month, no membership fees. Alternatively you could choose to become a member at $25 per month as well as a joining fee of $90 once off.....

There has to be a way of stopping these reckless signs as they are clearly misleading and can cause me to get real angry :)

Perhaps DRich could comment on some legal possibilities?
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AxelWolf
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July 2nd, 2014 at 1:36:30 AM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

There is a Gold's Gym close to my home on the 215 and Stephanie and outside, facing the highway they have a sign that says $9.99 per month, no contract needed.
There isn't a star or asterisk next to the sign, just a plain red and gold sign.

When I went in to query on my last holiday, they told me the $9.99 is only if you pay a penalty fee upfront (which is about $280) after which you will be charged $9.99 a month, no membership fees. Alternatively you could choose to become a member at $25 per month as well as a joining fee of $90 once off.....

There has to be a way of stopping these reckless signs as they are clearly misleading and can cause me to get real angry :)

Perhaps DRich could comment on some legal possibilities?

Well in your case they seem to have this once you ask for details. I think my situation is different, no other details or anything is covering them. They simply claim to have up to 99% machines and this is untrue period.

Its like a fast food place having a big permanent sign saying, we have a 99 cent menu but they don't nor do they have any items .99 or less. They just refuse to take down the sign because its attracting people. It's a blatant lie.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Tomspur
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July 2nd, 2014 at 1:42:21 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Well in your case they seem to have this once you ask for details. I think my situation is different, no other details or anything is covering them. They simply claim to have up to 99% machines and this is untrue period.

Its like a fast food place having a big permanent sign saying, we have a 99 cent menu but they don't nor do they have any items .99 or less. They just refuse to take down the sign because its attracting people. It's a blatant lie.



I completely understand but my example is a bald faced lie too. They don't offer the service as they describe it on their poster, not even close. In fact, if they had just put an asterisk next to the amount or put in the smallest of small prints at the bottom that there are conditions, then I can understand but there is nothing of the sort.

They don't offer the service they advertise, they are lying.

I think we should come up with a sweet little play on these mongrels to take all their cash :)
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Tomspur
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July 2nd, 2014 at 1:55:23 AM permalink
Just had a quick read around and it seems that the worst that a judge can do to a first offender is to force them to change their advertising habits. Initially they are apparently not breaking any laws, only if they ignore a judge's order to fix soemthing, will they be in contravention of any laws.

I would guess that not unless the suit includes some kind of "other" claim of damages or some kind of restitution claims that any type of legal action, at least right off the bat, would probably not work.
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AxelWolf
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July 2nd, 2014 at 2:18:14 AM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

Just had a quick read around and it seems that the worst that a judge can do to a first offender is to force them to change their advertising habits. Initially they are apparently not breaking any laws, only if they ignore a judge's order to fix soemthing, will they be in contravention of any laws.

I would guess that not unless the suit includes some kind of "other" claim of damages or some kind of restitution claims that any type of legal action, at least right off the bat, would probably not work.

I thought gambling advertisement was a bit different. This is not a promotion or special offer. Its like a BJ table felt saying dealer stands on soft 17 but they just keep hitting even after complaints.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
FleaStiff
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July 2nd, 2014 at 4:29:57 AM permalink
Since one of the high mucky mucks at Golds Gym is a member of this forum, you might get some corrective action.

As to Gaming Advertising, the Board does look at it and the licensee is indeed responsible for proper basic mathematics.
andyg99
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July 2nd, 2014 at 2:49:32 PM permalink
I agree about the signs that are misleading or just outright lies... I remember (I think it was around 2008) I saw all these signs saying 'Change We Can Believe In!' - how do we get a refund on that?
Nareed
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July 2nd, 2014 at 2:52:44 PM permalink
Quote: andyg99

I agree about the signs that are misleading or just outright lies... I remember (I think it was around 2008) I saw all these signs saying 'Change We Can Believe In!' - how do we get a refund on that?



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July 2nd, 2014 at 4:52:37 PM permalink
Can you tell me who doing this? I'd prefer in public, but a PM will be fine.
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