Just Vegas/No More AC
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March 11th, 2014 at 7:41:00 PM
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Ok here is an idea I have been thinking about...I welcome all your thoughts:
I have been thinking of ceasing my tri-monthly visits to AC...in lieu thereof I would travel to Vegas once every 3 or 4 months
The money I will not spend on gas, tolls and car wear and tear will merely be exchanged for airfare...
What do you all think...?
I have been thinking of ceasing my tri-monthly visits to AC...in lieu thereof I would travel to Vegas once every 3 or 4 months
The money I will not spend on gas, tolls and car wear and tear will merely be exchanged for airfare...
What do you all think...?
March 11th, 2014 at 7:42:06 PM
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Forget AC. Vegas is much more fun.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
March 11th, 2014 at 7:48:04 PM
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Quote: WizardForget AC. Vegas is much more fun.
Very true plus we can always get pancakes!
March 11th, 2014 at 7:49:01 PM
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Not sure Bob can go that long between fixes !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
March 11th, 2014 at 7:50:03 PM
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Vegas > AC. Vegas will be much more fun anyway as long as you steer clear of the June-July-August heat.
Plus, the Lady in Red will be happy to see you...haha
Plus, the Lady in Red will be happy to see you...haha
Fighting BS one post at a time!
March 11th, 2014 at 8:04:12 PM
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It won't work. You're all jazzed because you had
a good trip to Vegas this time. When you have a
bad one, you'll want to go to AC the next weekend
to get your money back. Better off sticking to AC
every weekend, it makes more sense. If you have
back to back bad trips to Vegas, I should say
WHEN you do, you'll never want to return.
a good trip to Vegas this time. When you have a
bad one, you'll want to go to AC the next weekend
to get your money back. Better off sticking to AC
every weekend, it makes more sense. If you have
back to back bad trips to Vegas, I should say
WHEN you do, you'll never want to return.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
March 11th, 2014 at 8:07:31 PM
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Quote: BuzzardNot sure Bob can go that long between fixes !
See, I was right !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
March 11th, 2014 at 8:40:51 PM
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Here is the thing, If you are still enjoying your trips to AC, then why stop? It is a personal preference as perhaps the comps and travel arrangements work out to be a wash perhaps. Are there other things you enjoy doing in AC while there? Do you have alternative plans in Vegas when you go there?
Personally if I never go back to AC it would be too soon, but this isn't about me. What would make you get in your car and head south on the Garden State to AC for the weekend? Can you waylay that feeling for a month or two and rather let it all hang out in Vegas?
I know what I would do, but again, this isn't about me :)
Personally if I never go back to AC it would be too soon, but this isn't about me. What would make you get in your car and head south on the Garden State to AC for the weekend? Can you waylay that feeling for a month or two and rather let it all hang out in Vegas?
I know what I would do, but again, this isn't about me :)
“There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man.” - Winston Churchill
March 11th, 2014 at 8:42:36 PM
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I voted "yes," but it really depends on how much more you enjoy Vegas than AC, and how often and how bad you get the "itch" to play. I love Vegas but I enjoy gambling too much to restrict my gambling to Vegas trips. Plus it's good to practice, especially as a counter.
So, I guess what I'm really saying is...both!
So, I guess what I'm really saying is...both!
"So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust." -ontariodealer
March 11th, 2014 at 8:44:15 PM
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Come on, Ace. It's sooo much quicker and easier to get from NYC to AC than to Vegas. Flying is a pain in the ass.
You should try out Borgata. Borgata is as nice as any Vegas property. And they would appreciate your play.
You should try out Borgata. Borgata is as nice as any Vegas property. And they would appreciate your play.
March 11th, 2014 at 8:46:40 PM
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Yeah Ace Look how nice Borgata is treating it's tournament poker players !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
March 11th, 2014 at 8:49:36 PM
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Ditch the witch and make the switch. I find myself doing AC less and less nowadays.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
March 11th, 2014 at 8:51:23 PM
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Well, my usual AC casino has not sent me any free play in 5 months. Additionally, when they did, it would be for $30.
That shows a lack of respect for me. When I was playing the same levels back at Bally's I would sometimes get $500 a month in direct bets.
I am just not seeing the value in AC anymore.
In Vegas, I feel great, the weather is nice, the restaurants are 5 star - I can walk the strip and sight see - check out shows, etc.
That shows a lack of respect for me. When I was playing the same levels back at Bally's I would sometimes get $500 a month in direct bets.
I am just not seeing the value in AC anymore.
In Vegas, I feel great, the weather is nice, the restaurants are 5 star - I can walk the strip and sight see - check out shows, etc.
March 11th, 2014 at 8:53:30 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesWell, my usual AC casino has not sent me any free play in 5 months. Additionally, when they did, it would be for $30.
That shows a lack of respect for me. When I was playing the same levels back at Bally's I would sometimes get $500 a month in direct bets.
I am just not seeing the value in AC anymore.
In Vegas, I feel great, the weather is nice, the restaurants are 5 star - I can walk the strip and sight see - check out shows, etc.
I think you may have just answered your own question!
“There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man.” - Winston Churchill
March 11th, 2014 at 8:54:24 PM
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At your level of play, I would estimate you would get $2000+ in match play per month in Borgata. My friend just got $1600 match play for the month of April and he does not bet nearly as much as you.
March 11th, 2014 at 8:55:48 PM
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Quote: sodawaterAt your level of play, I would estimate you would get $2000+ in match play per month in Borgata. My friend just got $1600 match play for the month of April and he does not bet nearly as much as you.
But starting over at a new casino means not having a host there and having to go there and play until someone notices my play (if they do at all)
March 11th, 2014 at 8:57:20 PM
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If you are the type of person that doesnt partake of the sites and activities in vegas, and spend almost all y our time at the tables or machines....then I see no advantage.
why screw around at airports, having to arrive early, delays, when you can drive at your leasure to AC.
but if you have fun in vegas with other activities...then go right ahead....gamble and do the fun things. You cant get that in AC....lifes too short....do the vegas fun thing...and gamble.
why screw around at airports, having to arrive early, delays, when you can drive at your leasure to AC.
but if you have fun in vegas with other activities...then go right ahead....gamble and do the fun things. You cant get that in AC....lifes too short....do the vegas fun thing...and gamble.
March 11th, 2014 at 9:19:07 PM
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Quote: aceofspades
In Vegas, I feel great, the weather is nice,
You mean last trip you did and it was. In June-Sept
you won't go outside because it's so hot. And when
you're losing everyplace sucks. Stick with AC and
go to Vegas a couple times a year. Or try your
approach, you'll be back in AC in no time trying
to recoup your losses. Think about it. You lose
8 grand in Vegas, and you know you will, you're
just going to sit on that loss for 3 months and
take the chance you'll win next trip? Does that
sound like you?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
March 11th, 2014 at 9:30:43 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesWell, my usual AC casino has not sent me any free play in 5 months. Additionally, when they did, it would be for $30.
That shows a lack of respect for me. When I was playing the same levels back at Bally's I would sometimes get $500 a month in direct bets.
I am just not seeing the value in AC anymore.
In Vegas, I feel great, the weather is nice, the restaurants are 5 star - I can walk the strip and sight see - check out shows, etc.
Go where ever they treat you the best and give you the most Ace.
March 11th, 2014 at 9:34:26 PM
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Quote: rainmanGo where ever they treat you the best and give you the most Ace.
Well I do not get free play in Vegas but...I get Vegas!
Bob has a point about wanting to recoyp losses and that is something I will have to think about...whether I have the patience to wait 3 months after a losing trip...
March 11th, 2014 at 9:39:31 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesWell I do not get free play in Vegas but...I get Vegas!
Bob has a point about wanting to recoyp losses and that is something I will have to think about...whether I have the patience to wait 3 months after a losing trip...
So do you think you play because you like the excitement of the game or do you play to pay your bills? (I know the answer, just making a point).
You don't seem like a compulsive person, are you ace? If you have lost during a trip, see it as part of the cost of the vacation, some are more expensive than others.
Point being this......
AC = dump with 3rd grade beaches and nothing else. Also sour employees with stingy comping....HORRIBLE strip clubs :)
Vegas = 4 star city, with 5 star restaurants, 4 star entertainment, golf courses up the wazoo, good employees who are friendly and appreciate your business, also stingy comping.....also great strip clubs.
3-hour drive depending on when/where you leave out of the city compared to a 5 hour flight (lets make it 7.5 hours all in)
Still, AC is just not worth it. You can always drive to Foxwoods or Mohegan if you need a quick fix can't you?
“There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man.” - Winston Churchill
March 11th, 2014 at 10:25:56 PM
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I say do both, just make AC less of a priority, skip it a few times. Your airfare should be taken care of. I have a feeling AC would also fade some of your toll and gas costs as well. Vegas is way more fun then AC.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
March 12th, 2014 at 8:58:56 AM
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Quote: aceofspadesVery true plus we can always get pancakes!
but does Vegas have funnel cakes
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
I AM NOT PART OF GWAE RADIO SHOW
March 12th, 2014 at 9:00:22 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfI say do both, just make AC less of a priority, skip it a few times. Your airfare should be taken care of. I have a feeling AC would also fade some of your toll and gas costs as well. Vegas is way more fun then AC.
I wish a casino offered airfare or gas/tolls
March 12th, 2014 at 9:21:30 AM
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Borgata will offer you airfare from either Republic or Westchester airports.
I don't use them because I do not like flying and those airports are 45 min (about a third of the entire AC trip) away from my house.
I don't use them because I do not like flying and those airports are 45 min (about a third of the entire AC trip) away from my house.
March 12th, 2014 at 9:30:45 AM
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Quote: GWAEbut does Vegas have funnel cakes
Deep fried Twinkies!
Quote: aceofspadesI wish a casino offered airfare or gas/tolls
If you ask your host you might get something. I am a pretty low player and have received gas cards from CET properties. They are usually big events where tons of players get them, but they do offer them.
March 12th, 2014 at 9:57:26 AM
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No, its what do you think about a plane trip rather than a drive. No one in AC will comp you the auto expense or driving ordeal. In Vegas, you might just get comped air fare. There is not anything in AC that you won't find in Vegas and in Vegas you find more of it and better. So put your efforts where the return is greatest and look into junket flights or simple airfare comps. On an airplane you can chat with an attractive seatmate in traffic you get to stare at the exhaust pipe in front of you.Quote: aceofspadesThe money I will not spend on gas, tolls and car wear and tear will merely be exchanged for airfare...
What do you all think...?
March 12th, 2014 at 11:10:55 AM
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As for as HIM I don't know, because, I don't know how they view his play. If your saying they just don't do it. You would be very wrong. If you would like to make a side wager, I would be happy to. If they offer you air fair, and they(if not find a new place) often do, you just tell them you don't like flying, but would gladly drive. They ask for you to save gas receipts.Quote: FleaStiffNo one in AC will comp you the auto expense or driving ordeal.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
March 12th, 2014 at 11:13:04 AM
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I know Seven Stars get offered limos to and from the casino from home but, I have even heard this is offered less and less.
March 12th, 2014 at 11:17:45 AM
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Yes, they've cut back on their limo comps, because now they mostly have to vendor it out, and that requires a "cash comp"....much harder to obtain. They simply don't have the limo fleets they used to have because of a.) lacking business, and b.) rising insurance costs, so they vendor it out, and that becomes a "comp of a different color".
March 12th, 2014 at 11:21:44 AM
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What amazing is at Revel (sodawater and chauncey can likely corroborate), unless you are in the UltraLounge, in order to get a Voss water or other top shelf liquor, you must get a cash comp written out by either a host or pit boss. Meaning, a black chip player playing on the main floor must go through an extra procedure in order to get certain drinks.
March 12th, 2014 at 11:25:20 AM
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You do not have to be 7 Stars to get Air Fair for. As for your play I don't know. I'm talking in general.Quote: aceofspadesI know Seven Stars get offered limos to and from the casino from home but, I have even heard this is offered less and less.
The less and less offering's seem to be targeting people who play always play the good stuff. Remember casino employees read this forum and have dark siders telling them how to asses someone they think is a good player VS smart one that has little value to them.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
March 12th, 2014 at 11:29:18 AM
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Quote: aceofspadesWhat amazing is at Revel (sodawater and chauncey can likely corroborate), unless you are in the UltraLounge, in order to get a Voss water or other top shelf liquor, you must get a cash comp written out by either a host or pit boss. Meaning, a black chip player playing on the main floor must go through an extra procedure in order to get certain drinks.
I remember the good old days before they enacted this policy... I'd have a Voss sodawater in every pocket...even betting table minimums.
March 12th, 2014 at 11:30:16 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfAir Fair
Sounds like the most righteous and just airline in the world.
March 12th, 2014 at 12:39:02 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesWell, my usual AC casino has not sent me any free play in 5 months. Additionally, when they did, it would be for $30.
That shows a lack of respect for me. When I was playing the same levels back at Bally's I would sometimes get $500 a month in direct bets.
I am just not seeing the value in AC anymore.
In Vegas, I feel great, the weather is nice, the restaurants are 5 star - I can walk the strip and sight see - check out shows, etc.
You must use a player's card to receive comps and offers. That same card tracks your play. When you have a couple of years of wins, as you do, you are no longer of any use to the casino. They want losers, not winners or break even players. If you consistently win or break even, most places will pull the plug on comps and that's not all they can do. If you start over at a new casino, the process will most likely be repeated. If you continue to play rated and win or break even, you won't be able to hide or run away from the problem.
I like the Borgata suggestion. Call the B and ask for a host. Tell him your Revel status and what kind of play you are willing bring to them. Who knows how long you can milk them? Above all, don't take it personally. The computer never does. It's just business.
Go where you will enjoy yourself. I have always liked AC and visit several times a year even though I refuse to play their lousy blackjack unless there are special opportunities.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
March 12th, 2014 at 12:46:08 PM
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Start ratholing chips
"Man Babes" #AxelFabulous
March 12th, 2014 at 12:48:46 PM
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A most timely thread considering the billions in losses by AC's goliath:
"LAS VEGAS (AP) — Caesars Entertainment Corp. on Tuesday posted a large quarterly loss after taking a hefty impairment charge. The casino corporation said it took goodwill and asset-impairment charges because of the continuing slump in Atlantic City and expectations that some of its property holdings may not last as long as expected. The company took nearly $2 billion in impairment charges for the quarter. . . . For the full year, revenue remained steady at about $8.6 billion, while losses grew to $2.9 billion from $1.5 billion. Caesars runs more than 50 casinos, most of them in the U.S. and Britain, making it one of the largest casino companies by properties owned. AP
"LAS VEGAS (AP) — Caesars Entertainment Corp. on Tuesday posted a large quarterly loss after taking a hefty impairment charge. The casino corporation said it took goodwill and asset-impairment charges because of the continuing slump in Atlantic City and expectations that some of its property holdings may not last as long as expected. The company took nearly $2 billion in impairment charges for the quarter. . . . For the full year, revenue remained steady at about $8.6 billion, while losses grew to $2.9 billion from $1.5 billion. Caesars runs more than 50 casinos, most of them in the U.S. and Britain, making it one of the largest casino companies by properties owned. AP
March 12th, 2014 at 12:51:01 PM
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I like Vegas because there are so many casinos
in one area. I'll take a nice sized Indian casino
any day over a Vegas casino, though. The
clientele is better, you hardly ever see the
drunks like you see in Vegas. It makes a big
difference in the ambiance when half the people
there aren't plastered.
in one area. I'll take a nice sized Indian casino
any day over a Vegas casino, though. The
clientele is better, you hardly ever see the
drunks like you see in Vegas. It makes a big
difference in the ambiance when half the people
there aren't plastered.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
March 12th, 2014 at 3:47:04 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesI know Seven Stars get offered limos to and from the casino from home but, I have even heard this is offered less and less.
With Mlife, a limo ride from the airport is a standard noir benefit (it's listed on their web page and in their brochures). I am just a lowly platinum player, but my standard "Buzz" offer includes free limo rides to and from the airport:
March 12th, 2014 at 3:55:24 PM
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Yes, they "vendor it out" but at a flat hourly rate they've negotiated with the company, not at the hourly rate a customer would pay.
March 12th, 2014 at 3:57:35 PM
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Some people do both... they go Vegas but also do a turn down in Geritol-Town at the only Indian casino.
March 12th, 2014 at 3:58:28 PM
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Since I've returned from this last Vegas excursion, I have not had the same itch to head to AC
March 12th, 2014 at 4:30:26 PM
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Vegas. No question.
Fly first class. Use limos. Stay in a great hotel. Make an event out of it. I'm not rich, but we turn it into an event, not just a trip to gamble. Shows. Meals. Pools.
The local place? It isn't close to anything and they treat us right; they are still not Vegas.
AC? Been there. Done that. Never need to go back.
Vegas. By a landslide.
Fly first class. Use limos. Stay in a great hotel. Make an event out of it. I'm not rich, but we turn it into an event, not just a trip to gamble. Shows. Meals. Pools.
The local place? It isn't close to anything and they treat us right; they are still not Vegas.
AC? Been there. Done that. Never need to go back.
Vegas. By a landslide.
March 12th, 2014 at 4:37:05 PM
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Vegas is a lot more fun than AC as you have already known it. Ac has the edge of being close. But Vegas is the real deal.
March 12th, 2014 at 5:13:59 PM
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If you live on the East Coast, Vegas is ok for once in a while. I go in early July for my MMA/Wrestling fan convention. But if you want to grind out a living you go steadily to the places near you.
10 eyes for an eye. 10 teeth for a tooth. 10 bucks for a buck?! Hit the bad guys where it hurts the most: the face and the wallet.
March 12th, 2014 at 5:15:42 PM
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Quote: Lemieux66If you live on the East Coast, Vegas is ok for once in a while. I go in early July for my MMA/Wrestling fan convention. But if you want to grind out a living you go steadily to the places near you.
Not trying to grind out a living - just going for enjoyment
March 12th, 2014 at 8:38:53 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesNot trying to grind out a living - just going for enjoyment
VEGAS!
10 eyes for an eye. 10 teeth for a tooth. 10 bucks for a buck?! Hit the bad guys where it hurts the most: the face and the wallet.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:43:52 PM
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Quote: GWAEbut does Vegas have funnel cakes
Beware because those funnel cakes come complete with their own "rats with wings" :)
Reminds me of Finding Nemo......mine, mine, mine, mine :)
“There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man.” - Winston Churchill
March 12th, 2014 at 8:51:33 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesNot trying to grind out a living - just going for enjoyment
besides gambling, what enjoyment do you get in vegas that you cant get in AC.
i mean if you have friends and relatives there....I agree...nothing replaces that in AC.
if you go to shows....then I agree....nothing compares in AC.
if you like the cultural offerings like museums....then AC has no equivalent
Fine resteraunt offering.......AC doesnt compare
sporting events. concerts....ac doesnt compare
I go for all of the above in vegas once a year, even though I am in reno every weekend.....in my opinion reno is like the atlantic city of nevada(minus the ocean)...so I go to vegas once a year to get the things that reno cant offer.
But I hear of people that go to vegas from the east coast and give trip reports void of the above, just talking about gambling and cheap steak dinners and alot of alcohol. what a waste of travel expense.
March 12th, 2014 at 9:16:34 PM
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Quote: LarryS
But I hear of people that go to vegas from the east coast and give trip reports void of the above, just talking about gambling and cheap steak dinners and alot of alcohol. what a waste of travel expense.
In my last three trips to Vegas, one just 6 weeks ago,
something has changed there. It's kind of depressing
now, and it never used to be. The unfinished construction
on the Strip, the homeless people on Fremont St now,
with their signs. I'm a tourist, I don't need to see that
crap. It's gives Vegas a seedy feel to me, like it's
going downhill or something.
Even the few Strip casinos I was in had a odd feeling
about them. Like their best days were behind them.
It's like something is missing there now, an excitement.
It used to be, It's Vegas, Baby! Now, It's Vegas Baby. Yawn..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
