kewlj
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March 9th, 2014 at 8:42:08 PM permalink
I don't visit LVA regularly and only read the blog when someone on one of the sites that I visit, links to it....usually EvenBob. (what happened EB, you dropped the ball on this one).

http://beyondnumbers.lvablog.com

A week before this blog, I posted on BJ21 about back to back, losing 5 figure days, the first back to back such days of my career. Apparently this somehow irritated James and was the 'inspiration' for this work as the first two quote are taken word for word from my post.

Now, let me just say that I certainly was not 'commiserating', just sharing my experiences as I have both good and bad, throughout my career on various sites that I participate on. I do this in the hopes that other members may learn something from my experiences, just as I have benefited so much from other member's sharing of experiences.

James is a great talent, with abilities and knowledge that I only wish I had a fraction of. But he seems to have this need to belittle others and does so often. Sadly this is a common element of the blackjack community which has played itself out on a number of sites during my time. It is sad, I really don't get it. Does belittling other players make one feel better about themselves, make their penis a little bigger? "Can someone explain it to me like I am a 4 year old?" (Denzel Washington courtroom quote from the movie Philadelphia)
EvenBob
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March 9th, 2014 at 9:00:08 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

I don't visit LVA regularly and only read the blog when someone on one of the sites that I visit, links to it....usually EvenBob. (what happened EB, you dropped the ball on this one).



This? http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/16332-james-grosjean-blog/3/

I started it months ago, you just posted in it recently.
Nothing wrong with dropping a ball, you on the other
hand seem totally lost.
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kewlj
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March 9th, 2014 at 9:09:43 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

This? http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/16332-james-grosjean-blog/3/

I started it months ago, you just posted in it recently.
Nothing wrong with dropping a ball, you on the other
hand seem totally lost.



Ok, I did recently post in that thread, you are correct. Although when I posted the topic seemed to have morph into the bathroom walls of LVH (via wizard), and that is what I responded to. By the way, those walls with the lady's pointing an laughing have been changed in the last week or so...no more ladies.

I was only funning that you dropped the ball Bob. I am quite capable of reading the blog without a link. It's just that usually one of the Grosjean cult members will link on one of the sites. lol

So, how is it that I am totally lost? I'm afraid, I AM lost on that one. I don't understand your meaning?
EvenBob
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March 9th, 2014 at 9:44:11 PM permalink
My meaning is, you say I dropped the ball by not discovering
the Grosjean blog and linking to it, when not only
HAD I linked to it months ago, you YOURSELF had
posted in it!! That looks fairly lost to me, wouldn't
you say? You can't remember a thread to the point
that you imply I'm the one that's out of it and not
you? And I'm the one that's too old to understand
the lame humor of a Jimmy Fallon. Gimme a break.
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djatc
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March 9th, 2014 at 10:05:51 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

Does belittling other players make one feel better about themselves, make their penis a little bigger? "Can someone explain it to me like I am a 4 year old?" (Denzel Washington courtroom quote from the movie Philadelphia)



So the lower part of daddy is like Pinochios nose. It grows bigger when he tells a lie. But instead of telling a lie it's when he sees hot women.

Anyway, the Grosjean blogs do seem to give off a bit of smugness, maybe he is just sick and tired of the BS he puts up with at casinos and just wants it to end. If this is the case I don't understand why he doesn't retire. I guess the money's too good to bow out, but advantage play kinda kills the compassionate side of you since you're out for blood everyday, as well as the naive excitement of winning money.
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tringlomane
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March 9th, 2014 at 11:41:59 PM permalink
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Anyway, the Grosjean blogs do seem to give off a bit of smugness



A significant blog in the VP world has this issue too, imo. A much more modest person quit being his radio partner for various reasons.

Unfortunately, this is what some intelligent people tend to do to make up for the times they were bullied in school, imo.
djatc
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March 10th, 2014 at 12:48:13 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

A significant blog in the VP world has this issue too, imo. A much more modest person quit being his radio partner for various reasons.

Unfortunately, this is what some intelligent people tend to do to make up for the times they were bullied in school, imo.



I can't speak on anyone else but myself, but being in casinos every day makes me lose a bit of my human side, which is helpful and cordial to others. I'm surrounded by 100% of people who are there for money and nothing but, myself included. Because of casinos cramming in slots and video poker everywhere to maximize revenue, there is literally no room to walk around people to get to where I want to. The people there are tourists ogling slot machines, and I don't blame them, but they move at a snail's pace and block access to my destination. Also I hate drunks because they can't control their liquor, and do stupid things like bump into me or make loud stupid noises right by my ear. Also the degenerate gamblers who ask me for money or pregnant women who do the same. The homeless guys/girls on the streetlight who beg for money with signs, and I know for damn well they aren't going to buy a sandwich, instead they are sticking quarters in a machine as soon as they get enough money.

Also the business is pretty cutthroat because anytime money's involved people turn cold blooded. I haven't seen anything too crazy such as people fighting each other for a must hit by but people will be breathing down your neck if you see one and sit down. I've had people hawking me on an Ultimate X because they must have thought I was a tourist. This was in a high-end casino so the denoms were pretty huge by UX standards.

Add the pit bosses and floormen who want to see you lose, even though they put on a smile and say to you that they want you to win. Winning players are bad for a table games supervisor. They prefer to see you lose your buy-in + your rent money, and come back in 2 weeks when you get your paycheck. I remember kewlj talking about paycheck bonuses at many casinos, and to me I believe in free markets so casinos should be able to do whatever they want to get your money, but it just looks uncomfortable and in bad taste to offer a "free" drink for cashing a paycheck when most of the patrons who do so probably don't make that much to begin with.

Take a look at a slot machine and the seat is usually filled by people who are looking downward and dejected when they thought they would win a fortune. Usually these people busted out with their bankroll and probably the bankroll was going to pay rent/food/bills. The nice guy who sat down at a video poker machine starts to get agitated by the dwindling credits and starts to curse louder and louder until he blows up and runs out of the casinos as fast as possible so people don't know he lost all his money. Even worse if their spouse comes by and finds they lost a ton (relative to their income) and the walk of shame afterwards.

I've come across a lot of employees buying in with their tips and losing it all in a flash, then they look extremely angry, like they were supposed to win because they are in the "know" working for a casino. The zombified look on some dealer's faces if they are allowed to gamble at their own casino as they deplete their tokes (not much since they are low roller joints if employees are allowed to gamble) and going back to work do it all over again. The cocktail waitress who loses her tokes on the bartops on keno, who stays the entire night until her shift starts again.

You see this over and over everyday and start to see humanity at it's worst, boiled down to capitalism at work, with people wanting more and more. They will gamble their own money for more, oblivious to the house edge or know just enough to say it won't affect me in any way.

On the flip side, I've seen high rollers in high limit rooms go on temper tantrums akin to a 5 year old, and the dealers and pit bosses can't do anything about it since the idiot is betting $1000 a hand. The high roller treats everyone like crap and gets away with it because the casino wants his money. Both are to blame, since the high roller should be reprimanded about his behavior, and the casino employees should stand up for themselves without punishment.

Sorry for the long winded post but casinos breed a horrible environment for people to thrive in. If you're a regular or work there all these factors set into you everyday, and I can see how it turns people ugly.
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tringlomane
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March 10th, 2014 at 1:04:32 AM permalink
I appreciate the story, but this story doesn't fully explain why these guys are smug. Your story more reminds me why I need to find a job with my degree.
djatc
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March 10th, 2014 at 1:10:39 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

I appreciate the story, but this story doesn't fully explain why these guys are smug. Your story more reminds me why I need to find a job with my degree.



lol I need to go to school to get a degree. Anyway I don't wanna go too off-topic, but the reason why I wrote that was to show what the pros probably see everyday, which makes them feel either compassion for people, or to go off the other end and start to devalue empathy for the sake of the "job" or "play". You can't start to feel sorry for every ploppy that loses his butt in the casino or you'll run yourself crazy.
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tringlomane
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March 10th, 2014 at 1:16:06 AM permalink
Quote: djatc

lol I need to go to school to get a degree. Anyway I don't wanna go too off-topic, but the reason why I wrote that was to show what the pros probably see everyday, which makes them feel either compassion for people, or to go off the other end and start to devalue empathy for the sake of the "job" or "play". You can't start to feel sorry for every ploppy that loses his butt in the casino or you'll run yourself crazy.



Fair enough. The happy medium is probably the most difficult attitude to pull off. I can see that being the case. And I think kewlj is a fine example of this.

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