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February 19th, 2014 at 1:31:08 PM permalink
1- at no limit holdem--dealer deals a flop of three 10s. Very next hand he pulls the new deck out of the autoshuffler....and deals a flop of 3 tens.(i cant say for sure the suits were the same)

2- once when down to my last 20 dollars after a losing craps session....I put 10 dollars on number 26 at roulette and it came out 3 times in a row.(no I didnt press it)
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February 19th, 2014 at 1:37:08 PM permalink
Back in my dumb days, I basically bet the first and third column in roulette , red, and the 1st 12 and 3rd 12 sections. Black 20 three times in a row!
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February 19th, 2014 at 1:42:10 PM permalink
I once lost a NLHE pot, all in pre-flop, pocket aces vs. a single king.

Guy got dealt one king and no other cards. I got dealt aces and raised. He looked and his hand, looked at 1 king, looked at the same card again, thought he had a pair of kings, and re-raised. I went all in, and he called.

Flop came down K-K-5 and he realized he only had one card. Turn and river were no help to my aces and it took the floor and shift manager about 10 minutes to determine that the single king was allowed to win the pot.
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February 19th, 2014 at 1:43:49 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

I once lost a NLHE pot, all in pre-flop, pocket aces vs. a single king.

Guy got dealt one king and no other cards. I got dealt aces and raised. He looked and his hand, looked at 1 king, looked at the same card again, thought he had a pair of kings, and re-raised. I went all in, and he called.

Flop came down K-K-5 and he realized he only had one card. Turn and river were no help to my aces and it took the floor and shift manager about 10 minutes to determine that the single king was allowed to win the pot.



That is a bad call. You need 2 cards to win.
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February 19th, 2014 at 1:48:38 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

That is a bad call. You need 2 cards to win.



This happened in the Borgata in the old downstairs room in 2005. According to the shift manager at the time, Borgata had a rule saying that 1 card could win at showdown if a player only received 1 card and there had been substantial action (so as the eliminate a misdeal).

I agree, it was a terrible rule, and I am not sure if it's still in effect. I might ask the new poker director if it's still the case.
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February 19th, 2014 at 1:50:54 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

This happened in the Borgata in the old downstairs room in 2005. According to the shift manager at the time, Borgata had a rule saying that 1 card could win at showdown if a player only received 1 card and there had been substantial action (so as the eliminate a misdeal).

I agree, it was a terrible rule, and I am not sure if it's still in effect. I might ask the new poker director if it's still the case.



The great thing about poker room rules is that they are never written down so the shift manager can claim that the rules are whatever they want them to be.

I would have complained to gaming.
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February 19th, 2014 at 1:51:59 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

The great thing about poker room rules is that they are never written down so the shift manager can claim that the rules are whatever they want them to be.

I would have complained to gaming.



You are right... I probably should have put up more of a fuss. If something like this happened today, I would have definitely not taken the shift manager's ruling as final.
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February 19th, 2014 at 1:53:20 PM permalink
I once hit royal flushes every day for 6 days in a row on quarter progressives. Never hit 2 the same day.
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February 19th, 2014 at 1:58:25 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

The great thing about poker room rules is that they are never written down so the shift manager can claim that the rules are whatever they want them to be.

I would have complained to gaming.



This is why you need to be extra nice to the floor people. Rules are up for interpretation, and they can just go against you if they want to.
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February 19th, 2014 at 2:01:28 PM permalink
Back in the days when i was not an AP, a very long time ago.
Playing Roulette for fun (single 0) on a vacation half drank, just playing even bets (black/red odd/even etc) with something around $25-$50.
A friend comes over and says bet that number. Instead I bet the colour of that number.
And the number comes. If I bet that number that would be a significant win at that time.
Funny thing how memory works.

I am pretty sure I have experienced a lot more improbable events at casino (like split 4 times and double 4 times and win in BJ) but they have not stayed in my memory bank.
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February 19th, 2014 at 2:07:39 PM permalink
Someone else winning a $50,000 jackpot on a table game side bet.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Barona-Player-Rings-in-the-iw-1812903454.html
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February 19th, 2014 at 2:16:07 PM permalink
I sat next to a guy 3 years ago in the Atlantis Reno. There were only 2 Wheel of Fortune 25 cent 3 coin progressive machines. I sat at the empty one on the left and he was playing the window machine next to me. I wanted to play the other one when he left but he kept hitting small amounts and outlasted my stay. I left after losing and went downstairs to play video poker and 20-30 minutes later he hit the Wheel Progressive for $962,000+. That was quite memorable and still is! This is a true story...
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:00:29 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater



Guy got dealt one king and no other cards. I got dealt aces and raised. He looked and his hand, looked at 1 king, looked at the same card again.



How can someone not realize they only have one card in their hand
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:02:34 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

How can someone not realize they only have one card in their hand



I've had enough to drink I thought the coaster I was using was my cards once. (It was just a picture of a suited Ace/King side by side on the cardboard) Now if only this was my worst Vegas moment...
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:02:42 PM permalink
I think my longest Craps session ever was three hours. I have no idea what the exact combination of roll results was in that three hours, but whatever it was, it was probably the most mathematically improbable event I have ever been involved with.

If we are speaking of isolated events (i.e. machines) hitting Eight Quick Hits on a Quick Hit machine, which I did personally. Actually, I did it DURING bonus games, so it was probably even more unlikely than doing it right off the top.
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:08:52 PM permalink
Quote: mikeabiomed

I sat next to a guy 3 years ago in the Atlantis Reno. There were only 2 Wheel of Fortune 25 cent 3 coin progressive machines. I sat at the empty one on the left and he was playing the window machine next to me. I wanted to play the other one when he left but he kept hitting small amounts and outlasted my stay. I left after losing and went downstairs to play video poker and 20-30 minutes later he hit the Wheel Progressive for $962,000+. That was quite memorable and still is! This is a true story...



I thought the atlantis reno had only main floor gambling. I though upstairs was the arcade and banquet halls and a couple resteraunts.
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:28:44 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

How can someone not realize they only have one card in their hand



Because he looked at the king, then he looked at it again, and thought he had a pair of kings.
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:30:03 PM permalink
There is a section (walkway) over the main drag (South Virginia Street) wher they serve sushi and seafood. It's near the escalator on the south side of the walkway.
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:30:13 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

Because he looked at the king, then he looked at it again, and thought he had a pair of kings.



Lol I hope they were both the same color.
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:31:07 PM permalink
Suited kings...what a hand. That's the problem with pocket pairs, not enough flush value.
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:34:00 PM permalink
Quote: endermike

Suited kings...what a hand. That's the problem with pocket pairs, not enough flush value.



I was also involved in a hand years ago in the Taj where two player showed down the same ace. They had to unwind all the betting in the hand and canceled it. There was one ace on the board, and two players showed down trip aces. So five aces at showdown. I was the third player in the pot with two pair. I was pretty happy to get a refund on that hand.
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:34:21 PM permalink
Quote: mikeabiomed

There is a section (walkway) over the main drag (South Virginia Street) wher they serve sushi and seafood. It's near the escalator on the south side of the walkway.


Say what?
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:41:11 PM permalink
What aren't you understanding?
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:43:54 PM permalink
I was in Vegas for the Buster Douglas KO of Mike Tyson, watching on tv in a casino. This was the most improbable event I can ever recall seeing.
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:48:41 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater


Flop came down K-K-5 and he realized he only had one card. Turn and river were no help to my aces and it took the floor and shift manager about 10 minutes to determine that the single king was allowed to win the pot.



Oh man I would be irate! Not having 2 cards is a fouled hand, I don't care what the floor says.
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:59:38 PM permalink
Quote: mikeabiomed

What aren't you understanding?


I missed the context about the Atlantis Reno, sorry. You might want to try using the 'quote' button.
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February 19th, 2014 at 4:19:53 PM permalink
I played roulette at Foxwoods back in 2007 and the board was completely black by the end, so 16-19 straight rolls of black.

I had a "system" of following the trend back then, and was happy I did, (otherwise I would probably have been broke and left the table way earlier if I was trying to guess the switch in color).

I once went 0-20-3 in a shoe of blackjack. Don't know the stats of the next shoe, but it was almost as good as the previous was bad.

While playing Wheel of Fortune, a guy a couple down from my machine hit the "spin" feature on back-2-back-2-back spins and needs a hand pay for each win. It was a $25 machine, but still cool to see.
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February 19th, 2014 at 4:30:43 PM permalink
I once lost 24 straight hands playing blackjack, hey hey.
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February 19th, 2014 at 4:41:58 PM permalink
You gotta stop hitting those hard 20's
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February 19th, 2014 at 5:19:28 PM permalink
While working I once saw a lady get 2 3 of a kinds and a straight flush IN A ROW on 3CP.

I have no math skills so would that be 0.002353*0.002353*0.002172?

It seemed pretty incredible at the time and after I changed the cards ffrom the table and inspected them I took them outside and watched those babies BURN :)
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February 19th, 2014 at 5:25:26 PM permalink
I doubled down on a hard eleven once and broke. The dealer pulled 2 cards out of the shoe, both tens.
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February 19th, 2014 at 5:25:33 PM permalink
I'm not sure how rare it was, but either 8 or 9 card dealer bust loaded with small cards and high at the right times.
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February 19th, 2014 at 5:33:30 PM permalink
This goes back to 2006, when my 10 yr anniversary cruise (paid for 8 months in advance) turned into a solo divorcee cruise in the mean time. I was in the mood to go on a tear. So I was betting big on 3CP (the best game available at the time) and just killing them. I had a streak like that, almost, where I had 2 3OAK and 1 SF in 5 hands for 2K in 5 minutes @ 20/hand. I know you didn't work the cruise line I was on, so not suggesting I was that same lady. I killed that casino's profits 6 days out of 7 all by myself, and was the subject of great discussion in the mgmt meetings. I know that because when I wasn't playing, I was down spending my winnings on cruise art at the auctions, and seeing the guy selling it on the side, who was in those meetings. It was hysterical by the end of the week. It sounded like they would've backed me off except that I was turning the money right back to the boat (which gets a large percentage of the art prices). I tipped so well that the dealers pooled their money and bought me a HUGE swarovski crystal heart as a thank-you gift my last day. Queen of the boat: once and done.
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February 19th, 2014 at 5:37:16 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

This goes back to 2006, when my 10 yr anniversary cruise (paid for 8 months in advance) turned into a solo divorcee cruise in the mean time. I was in the mood to go on a tear. So I was betting big on 3CP (the best game available at the time) and just killing them. I had a streak like that, almost, where I had 2 3OAK and 1 SF in 5 hands for 2K in 5 minutes @ 20/hand. I know you didn't work the cruise line I was on, so not suggesting I was that same lady. I killed that casino's profits 6 days out of 7 all by myself, and was the subject of great discussion in the mgmt meetings. I know that because when I wasn't playing, I was down spending my winnings on cruise art at the auctions, and seeing the guy selling it on the side, who was in those meetings. It was hysterical by the end of the week. It sounded like they would've backed me off except that I was turning the money right back to the boat (which gets a large percentage of the art prices). I tipped so well that the dealers pooled their money and bought me a HUGE swarovski crystal heart as a thank-you gift my last day. Queen of the boat: once and done.



LOL... that's awesome.

I don't understand why they would back someone off just for being lucky. Are they really that superstitious? Or did they think that maybe something was up?
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February 19th, 2014 at 5:44:25 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

LOL... that's awesome.

I don't understand why they would back someone off just for being lucky. Are they really that superstitious? Or did they think that maybe something was up?



Cruise casinos don't understand a back off if it hit them in the face. I think perhaps they were only discussing it because of the amounts of money involved and that the cruise was not goingt o make target from the casino because of poor table games results. There is no way someone gets backed off for being lucky unless the person doing the backing off is a complete simpleton.

Great run babs, that is an awesome streak of luck.

So now we have two WoV'ers who have seen some real streaky variance on 3CP.

Is there a reason that this game is so streaky or is it simply blind luck?

Any mathematicians?
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February 19th, 2014 at 6:09:23 PM permalink
I remember a thread here about somebody not really seeing something because it was so improbable. Well, stuff happens. I remember back when AP was the main source of new about a woman during the Korean war who had a baby on the same exact day he husband was killed in Korea. But that's just the start. She remarried, another military man, she had another baby and on that day her 2nd husband was killed in Vietnam.

But this is my most improbable story. A lumberjack ( really ) in the Northwest bought a $1 ticket and won $100,000 in a Canadaian lottery. A bit of money in the 1970's. He bought a farm and decided to buy a race horse. Put aside $15,000 and then had to go partners to buy a horse for $17,500. Didn't get much of a race horse for that price, even then.

But the horse had a front leg that bent slightly outwards. Could not afford a fancy trainer, so he got a guy who was training steeple chase horses mostly. Damn horse was so clumsy the trainer nicknamed him Baby Huey. Now just getting a horse to the race track is a long shot, let alone winning a race. This horse won first time out. I will skip ahead to the Kentucky Derby.

Very few horses get to that race. Well, Baby Huey, lived up to his name. Banged his head against the starting gate hard enough to start bleeding from the mouth. Still bleeding when he crossed the finish line 1st. Of course he goes on to win the Triple Crown. Something only 11 horses have ever done.

But add a few more zero's to the odds of this happening as he is the only horse to have done it undefeated.

Yes, it's SEATTLE SLEW

But not all fairy tales have a happy ending. His son SWALE won the Belmont and died before the year was out.

He had a daughter named Landaluce. She was voted American Champion Filly in 1982 POSTHUMOUSLY.
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February 19th, 2014 at 6:25:08 PM permalink
If we are to stick to racing lore, here is one from my home country (South Africa).

A couple who were into horse ownership in a small way went to one of the smaller weanling sales. The husband didn't see anything he liked but the wife fell in love with a real gangly looking son of Rakeen. She told her husband that she had to have him, she just loves him. They enquired from the breeder if the horse had a reserve (now remember weanlings are not normally sold) and the breeder told them that if they could give him $1,000 they could have him.

The horse went into training and had a very storied racing career. He was one of the best sprint milers in the country. He also went "in the wind" 4 times during this career. He had almost no breathing ability and still managed to win his races. He stood more than 17 hh and won 17 races including 8 grade 1's.

His racing career was nothing though, compared to what he produced in the barns. He commanded a stud fee of $25,000 (which doesn't seem like a lot but consider his purchase price and the fact that this is in South Africa). He was one of the most successful sires ever to be produced in South Africa. He sired a total of 24 GR 1 performers including a horse that won two of the biggest races in South Africa 4 times each (in a row). He also sired a horse called JJ the Jet Plane who won a few heats overseas including a big hong Kong sprint.

The owners received many huge offers to purchase him from the UK, Australia, Japan and the US. Due to the lady's love of him she could never sell him, no matter how much money he was offered for.

He passed away at the end of 2011. He was 16 years old at the time. His name was Jet Master.

In fact I have to thank two horses in this world for getting me hooked on racing....he was one and the other was a lightning quick gelding by the name of "Tommy Hotspur" hence my abbreviated handle.
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February 19th, 2014 at 6:39:48 PM permalink
Quote: mikeabiomed

There is a section (walkway) over the main drag (South Virginia Street) wher they serve sushi and seafood. It's near the escalator on the south side of the walkway.



absolutely right....totally forgot about that other parking lot where it feeds to.
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February 19th, 2014 at 7:36:05 PM permalink
I played bingo this past weekend at Foxwoods, and my personal "record" for witnessing the fewest calls needed for a full card was broken not once, but twice. Prior to going, the best I had ever seen was 47 calls to fill a card. At Saturday morning's session, a full card was achieved in 45 calls, and the following morning a full card was achieved in 43 calls.

Before any numbers are called:

1) The probability of filling a single card in exactly 45 calls is 1 in 12.8 million (in 45 calls or less, 1 in 6.8 million)
2) The probability of filling a single card in exactly 43 calls is 1 in 57.7 million (in 43 calls or less, 1 in 32.2 million)
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February 19th, 2014 at 7:46:09 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

The great thing about poker room rules is that they are never written down so the shift manager can claim that the rules are whatever they want them to be.

I would have complained to gaming.



They are written down in Missouri, otherwise the game is not allowed to be played in the casino. Maybe I should request to look at them sometime. I would assume that not having all your cards would be considered a "dead hand" and hopefully that is in writing.
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February 19th, 2014 at 8:24:42 PM permalink
In Atlantic City at Bally's Park Place I think 1987 on a day trip I was playing Blackjack. With a $15 bet out I was dealt the A-10 of Clubs, the Dealer also showed a 10-Clubs, and flipped over the Ace-Clubs... two identical Blackjacks (6 deck game I believe).

About 10 years later in the same day but at different tables at Mohegan Sun; 1st was A-Q Hearts identical Blackjack (Dealer Ace-up), and later that evening A-10 Diamonds identical Blackjacks (Dealer 10-up). These two were 6-deckers $25 and $75 respectively might have been no more than 100 hands played between them. Never had an ID BJ since.

Pai-gow poker 9-high and Royal Flush at one sitting, probably 50-60 hands apart. Once I was dealt 5 Aces (not paired) with a Benjamin bet IIRC that was at Foxwoods 1993.

Online Omaha H/L-8 PL $5 tourney (2003) Wheel Str-Flush twice kocking out a total of four opponents. I made the final table from a field of about 400. FWIW never had the big wheel again before UIGEA.
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February 19th, 2014 at 8:25:02 PM permalink
1) I was at the table when another player hit a royal at Let it Ride.

2) I was at the table when a guy hit a royal at UTH.

3) I got back-to-back trips at Three Card Poker, with the dealer also getting trips on one of them: 3 sets of trips out of 4 three card hands.
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February 19th, 2014 at 9:44:04 PM permalink
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February 19th, 2014 at 9:48:33 PM permalink
I got a back to back 4oak on video poker, but this probably happens a lot.
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February 19th, 2014 at 10:04:53 PM permalink
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February 19th, 2014 at 10:07:50 PM permalink
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Was dealt three of a kind seven times today in a stretch of eight hands. None improved.



I have only gotten one VP royal in my life, and it was dealt.
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February 19th, 2014 at 10:09:54 PM permalink
I got a dealt straight flush, 4oaK, and 2 full houses, all within about 10 hands today. :)

Actually I got a better one:

A player was playing proper basic strategy, to the Tee, on BJ a few days ago. Flat betting a DD game.
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February 20th, 2014 at 2:47:51 AM permalink
Quote: sodawater

Because he looked at the king, then he looked at it again, and thought he had a pair of kings.

When did this happen? Didn't AC used to have on site gaming control? this is Obviously a different kind of miss deal that would not qualify for the action behind ruling. You do need to cards to win. and I think gaming would agree. the post should have been split. that is the worst poker ruling I have ever heard of, and I have seen them fish cards out of the much and reward the mucked hand the pot.
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Venthus
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February 20th, 2014 at 6:26:37 AM permalink
Two incidents: BJ switch, AA, 88 against a 5 split to three soft middle numbers and a 20, and four 16s, two of which were 88s after the 4-hand limit. Dealer makes 20.

Royal + Joker/Ace pair in pai gow poker. Of course, not betting bonus, so odds of this probably were approaching 1. At least I won 15$ minus commission?
ChampagneFireball
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February 20th, 2014 at 9:28:21 AM permalink
Playing 3-card at Harrah's and almost out of money. Bet remainder and have an extra $5 (if I play) so I put it on on the 6-card $1 million shot. Look at first two cards: four and another four. I play and don't bother looking at next card. Pair is good enough. This is the only time I've bet the 6-card or and only time I've looked at less than my whole hand. I have no chips left.

Dealer has a straight with a 4 in it. I'm bummed, but I win with trips on the 6-card. Dealer turns over my cards, knowing I don't know the last card, and slowly spreads it out. The remaining card is the case 4. I win! 6-card wins!

While getting 3 fours isn't that unlikely, doing it when you need it to beat a straight is, and even more unlikely that you bet the 6-card that hand and get the four fours.
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