etony33
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February 8th, 2014 at 6:02:30 AM permalink
Hi. I was wondering...

If someone had an eye patch with x-ray vision like Number 2 from Austin Powers, enabling them to see the next card to be dealt from the shoe in blackjack, what would that player's edge be, assuming 8D H17 DAS LS Split to four hands Draw one card only on split aces No resplitting aces?
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February 8th, 2014 at 6:07:32 AM permalink
I dunno but you've given me the idea of wearing a special eye patch that sees specially marked cards while looking like an ordinary eye patch.
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February 8th, 2014 at 6:21:39 AM permalink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkzMA1jrm00
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February 8th, 2014 at 10:02:33 AM permalink
Would the eye patch only make the next card in the shoe visible, or would all dealt cards, including the dealer's hole card be known?
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etony33
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February 8th, 2014 at 11:01:53 AM permalink
Hmm...it only shows him looking at the next card in the shoe in the movie, so I guess it would only allow him to see that.
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February 8th, 2014 at 11:08:38 AM permalink
Quote: etony33

Hi. I was wondering...

If someone had an eye patch with x-ray vision like Number 2 from Austin Powers, enabling them to see the next card to be dealt from the shoe in blackjack, what would that player's edge be, assuming 8D H17 DAS LS Split to four hands Draw one card only on split aces No resplitting aces?

how high were you when you thought about this?
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February 8th, 2014 at 11:50:58 AM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

how high were you when you thought about this?

+1

I love how some members here think that all of us should be taking questions like this seriously. lol! :D
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etony33
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February 8th, 2014 at 12:19:54 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

how high were you when you thought about this?



Not at all. Why?

And if I had been high, what's it to you?
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February 9th, 2014 at 3:44:01 PM permalink
Quote: etony33

Hmm...it only shows him looking at the next card in the shoe in the movie, so I guess it would only allow him to see that.

Since he wasn't sitting at third base, I think it would vary. Forcing the dealer to bust is a powerful tool. Also playing multiple spots would really be to your advantage as you could make the right hit every time.
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February 10th, 2014 at 12:09:10 PM permalink
It doesn't matter what your edge is. Time spent calculating the edge is time not spent betting, which is a waste. You will soon be max-betting and clearing out rack after rack of chips; do you really care if your edge is 30% or 40%? Or 50% or 60%?
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February 10th, 2014 at 12:33:45 PM permalink
I have no clue what the HE would be.

But this is actually not that far fetched. I recently saw an article lf somebody designing some sort of software for Google Glass that can detect face down cards.
Also, google glass can be used to automatically scan all cards on the table and automatically keep count.

When Google glass comes out and is readily available it will make cheating so easy. I wonder if Casinos will let people wear it at tables?
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February 10th, 2014 at 12:45:24 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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February 10th, 2014 at 12:47:00 PM permalink
It's already banned pretty much everywhere, in the US at least.
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February 10th, 2014 at 2:34:34 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

It will be prohibited in casino and already is in many.


Well that's disappointing. There is so much cool casino software. Everything from roulette motion trackers to predict where ball will land to card readers, to card trackers, to software that keeps track of all cards played and calculates exact count and tells you what to do and what to bet each hand.

If there is a way to wear it in Casinos it would be way better even than the Austin Powers eyepatch. Wearing it in a Casino seems like it would almost be Godmode in a video game, its a shame that they banned it because being able to wear it in casinos would actually make it a decent investment instead of just an expensive toy...
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February 10th, 2014 at 2:36:03 PM permalink
using a computer to alter the odds of any casino game has been illegal for decades.
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February 10th, 2014 at 3:06:23 PM permalink
Quote: Gandler

There is so much cool casino software.


That's why they want nothing to do with it. lol
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February 10th, 2014 at 3:24:05 PM permalink
There's no way any casino would allow you to use artificial means to reduce the house edge at all, never mind to give yourself a huge edge. They don't even let you count cards without any assistance, FFS. The only way you would ever be able to get away with it is if the casino had no idea what you were doing.

And even then, if you hit hard 17 enough times and get a 4, ESPECIALLY at a table with a $10,000 minimum like in the movie...it won't be long before you get backed off AT BEST.
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February 10th, 2014 at 3:26:38 PM permalink
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February 10th, 2014 at 10:35:36 PM permalink
Even the use of late surrender would be profitable in many cases. Surrendering ANY stiff v. 10 if you knew you would bust if you hit, for example.
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