Favorite drink while gambling?

I'm mostly a beer guy in general so I'd say 9 out of 10 times I'll order a Coors Light while I'm gambling. 1. I know how much alcohol I'm getting. 2. Drinking light beer prevents me from getting way too drunk.

Has anyone ever made or seen an interesting drink request? I'm not the type of person who will fully exploit the beverage service while gambling but I've always wondered how far you can take it.

Also, does anyone seem to notice there being a large amount of white Russians being ordered in Vegas? Maybe it's just me but it seems to be one of the most popular mixed drinks I've seen delivered while gambling.

Quote: befamous7

I'm mostly a beer guy in general so I'd say 9 out of 10 times I'll order a Coors Light while I'm gambling. 1. I know how much alcohol I'm getting. 2. Drinking light beer prevents me from getting way too drunk.

I drink coffee in the casinos. I never touch booze when I'm working.

I usually order Jagerbombs in the form of a mixed drink while gambling. I tell them I want half Jaeger and half Red Bull in a cup, with ice as a drink. I usually tip $10 on the first one. That keeps them coming without much pushback.

When I drink in the casino and not driving I want to get drunk without all the liquid, so I'll go with a long island or rum and coke.

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Quote: mwalz9

I usually order Jagerbombs in the form of a mixed drink while gambling. I tell them I want half Jaeger and half Red Bull in a cup, with ice as a drink. I usually tip $10 on the first one. That keeps them coming without much pushback.

What's the follow up strategy?

I've never ordered a white Russian anywhere but Vegas. I decided to try it one night since it was free and all. I had a few but it really filled me up. Usually I stick to light beer

At my batchelors party in Vegas in 2008 we drank Jaegermeister and Red Bull at the Paris. After that we moved to Casino Royale and drank whatever beer they gave us.......NEVER, EVER, AGAIN!!! :)

Now I drink water

I usually don't drink when I gamble because I will be driving home, but in those cases I do drink, I typically just have one Godfather, Bradford, or perhaps a straight gin.

When I was in Vegas, I either drank Heineken or Guinness, depending on what they'd give you (Guinness at Golden Gate!) and I would drink an occasional SoCo and coke to switch things up. When we stayed at Wheeling Island last week, I drank mainly SoCo and coke, but had a couple cups of Yuengling Draft Lager.

If ever I wanted to accomodate the casino and give them an extra advantage to win my money....I would order beer, or vodka, or wine, or rum. or Gin. or vermouth or any form of whiskey, but I would stay far far away from diet coke, orange juice, bottled water, ginger ale, sprite.

A fifth of Chivas.

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Diet Coke with maraschino cherries

Corona. The lime wedge fights off scurvy.

If I am seriously gambling, black tea. If just want entertainment from the gambling geniuses at the $5 BJ table, well bring on The Glenlivit. Neat, just 3 or 4 ice cubes.

Quote: BleedingChipsSlowly

If I am seriously gambling, black tea. If just want entertainment from the gambling geniuses at the $5 BJ table, well bring on The Glenlivit. Neat, just 3 or 4 ice cubes.

Most often: Jack and coke, nursed so as not to get buzzed
Alternate : Corona with Lime
Rare : Bloody Mary with Grey Goose

I have never been denied the Grey Goose.

Quote: RaleighCraps

Most often: Jack and coke, nursed so as not to get buzzed

Avoid the Single Barrel. Seriously.

If available, snooty pale ales or ipa's. My fave in Vegas this past year was dogfish head 90 minute IPA comped at the quad. Yes the quad. And I typically short-coined 7/5 TB+ for the comp. +EV with beer cost.

If no good selection, I go with budweiser.

Bottled water. People who drink when they gamble
have issues.

Quote: EvenBob

Bottled water. People who drink when they gamble
have issues.

People who drink bottled water have issues too......According to another thread LOL

Quote: Tomspur

People who drink bottled water have issues too......According to another thread LOL

I drink vodka but never when I'm playing. I never
play after dinner anyway, so it's not a problem. I
do all my playing in the afternoon. You lose your
sharpness in the evening when all your blood is
digesting your food, that's why people get drowsy.
Throw a couple drinks in there and just give the
casino your money at the cage and go up to your
room.

Just have to be responsible.

If you're playing Craps, don't start making center bets just because you're a little tipsy, or betting more money than you usually would. If you're playing Video Poker, just slow down, you don't suddenly forget how to play because you have a few drinks.

Actually, if you are playing a -ER VP game, then drinking could help if it makes you slow down, your expected loss will be less because your total action is less, assuming you play for the same length of time!

Maybe I was just drunk at the time but didn't we have a thread on this very subject a year ago?

Quote: s2dbaker

Maybe I was just drunk at the time but didn't we have a thread on this very subject a year ago?

After 4 years, aren't many of the topics repeats ?

Quote: RaleighCraps

After 4 years, aren't many of the topics repeats ?

I just did a search, not only was there another thread on this subject but there's yet another one that skipped my attention completely (and that was just the first page of results). There are plenty of other forum police without my help, carry on.

Quote: EvenBob

Bottled water. People who drink when they gamble
have issues.

Are you saying people who don't drink when they gamble don't have issues? If so, what's your point? People have issue?

Quote: BleedingChipsSlowly

Are you saying people who don't drink when they gamble don't have issues? If so, what's your point?

Point is, if you drink and gamble you don't
take gambling seriously. How could you
if you willingly tamper with your ability
to make sound decisions.

Quote: EvenBob

Point is, if you drink and gamble you don't
take gambling seriously. How could you
if you willingly tamper with your ability
to make sound decisions.

I'm not for one second putting my following statement forward for use or suggest it is a good idea BUT:

Perhaps card counters who are very well versed in the ways of counting will sometimes drink and appear rowdy in order to disguise their play? I know you can "act" drunk and disorderly" even when you are stone cold sober but it leans to some convincing when you aren't "into it" 100%

Quote: EvenBob

I drink vodka but never when I'm playing. I never
play after dinner anyway, so it's not a problem. I
do all my playing in the afternoon. You lose your
sharpness in the evening when all your blood is
digesting your food, that's why people get drowsy.
Throw a couple drinks in there and just give the
casino your money at the cage and go up to your
room.

you don't have to have full use of "your blood" to play roulette, bob. a chimp could play it as well as stephen hawking. you just pick a number and hope to get lucky.

Quote: sodawater

you don't have to have full use of "your blood" to play roulette, bob. a chimp could play it as well as stephen hawking. you just pick a number and hope to get lucky.

Right. Many drunk VP, blackjack, craps, etc. players are going to outdo the sober guy playing the double zero wheel.

Quote: EvenBob

Point is, if you drink and gamble you don't
take gambling seriously. How could you
if you willingly tamper with your ability
to make sound decisions.

I would agree that if you are gambling serious money you should do so seriously, i.e. alcohol free. However, I have room in my life for non-serious gambling which I enjoy as an entirely separate activity when socializing with friends. If I am having a martini planing 25-cent JoB slots while keeping my wife company I am unconcerned about a few mistakes of play. My point is I disagree with your categorical statement drinking while gambling means you have issues. Perhaps you would not qualify that activity as actual gambling. Fair enough. There is a time and place for everything.

Quote: sodawater

you don't have to have full use of "your blood" to play roulette, bob. a chimp could play it.

Then if you're drinking give the chimp your
money and go up to your room.

Quote: BleedingChipsSlowly

I would agree that if you are gambling serious money you should do so seriously, i.e. alcohol free. However, I have room in my life for non-serious gambling .

See, I don't understand what that means. If
you're shopping for something and you have
$300 to spend, you soberly research it, find
the best deal, and buy it. You don't decide
you want a TV, throw back a few shots of
tequila and a 6 pack, and have your wife
drive you to Best Buy.

Yet you'll take $300 to the casino, gamble
with friends while throwing back shots
and drinking half a dozen beers. Then
shrug your shoulders 2 hours later when
all the money is gone. There's a disconnect
there somewhere.

The stores don't seem to sell the six-packs any cheaper in Vegas. It seems if I want to drink, and can do so at an expected loss less than it would cost to buy the same amount of the beverage, my ER is better to drink and play than to buy alcohol from a store and take it to my room!

Crown & Coke
Or if I'm at MSS, then some of their homebrews.

Quote: EvenBob

See, I don't understand what that means. If
you're shopping for something and you have
$300 to spend, you soberly research it, find
the best deal, and buy it. You don't decide
you want a TV, throw back a few shots of
tequila and a 6 pack, and have your wife
drive you to Best Buy.

Yet you'll take $300 to the casino, gamble
with friends while throwing back shots
and drinking half a dozen beers. Then
shrug your shoulders 2 hours later when
all the money is gone. There's a disconnect
there somewhere.

When drinking at the $5 BJ table at night I am there for the entertainment. Whether I win or lose is inconsequential. I never buy in for more than I am willing to part with for that entertainment. I do know an play BS as religiously as possible, given that drink will diminish your ability to reason. Other players take even money on their BJ. Players get their knickers in a twist because they believe someone's misplay has caused the deck to get out of whack and everyone to lose. Two weeks ago I talked a bourbon-soaked youngster out doubling down on a hard 20. True story. I watch the anguish of others when the dealer draws to 21 on the fifth card and they claim the game is rigged. Clueless newbies make outrageous decisions - and win. I just smile at it all through a scotchy-scotch glow. I do not lose any more than I would have to pony for the tab at a local bar if I watched a football game.

In the morning I play higher limit tables and so so seriously. I have black tea and watch the cards. Absolutely no booze. I buy in for enough to make the results meaningful, but never so much that I can't afford to lose what's on the table. It is a different, disciplined enjoyment.

Call my behavior disconnected if you wish. I'm fine with that. By the way, I have never left a casino with no money. Not even close. I guess you could say I just play at gambling. Perhaps that is the part you don't understand.

Quote: tringlomane

If available, snooty pale ales or ipa's. My fave in Vegas this past year was dogfish head 90 minute IPA comped at the quad. Yes the quad. And I typically short-coined 7/5 TB+ for the comp. +EV with beer cost.

If no good selection, I go with budweiser.

+1 for the pale ales, but I'd rather have water than a Budweiser.

Water, Green Tea or Jasmine Tea if available.

Since I don't drink at all.

Quote: CrystalMath

I'd rather have water than a Budweiser.

There's a difference?

Quote: Mission146

The stores don't seem to sell the six-packs any cheaper in Vegas. It seems if I want to drink, and can do so at an expected loss less than it would cost to buy the same amount of the beverage, my ER is better to drink and play than to buy alcohol from a store and take it to my room!

Bingo! Three martinis over two hours at the 25-cent JoB slots for about $5, tip included. Same three drinks in the restaurant for close to $40. Might get the cost down to $10 buying a fifth at the liquor store and drinking in the room, but that's no fun at all!

Quote: Mission146

Just have to be responsible.

If you're playing Craps, don't start making center bets just because you're a little tipsy, or betting more money than you usually would. If you're playing Video Poker, just slow down, you don't suddenly forget how to play because you have a few drinks.

Actually, if you are playing a -ER VP game, then drinking could help if it makes you slow down, your expected loss will be less because your total action is less, assuming you play for the same length of time!

Actually alcohol is a depressant. So it may depress your quickness as you stated, but it also depresses your decision making ability, and discipline.

So you are going slower at a negative expectation game, but also making poorer decisions as per strategy and more reckless undisciplined decisions as per money management

After the first drink....you are "under the influence"....maybe not legally drunk as per blood alcohol levels......but still your brain is "influenced".....rather quickly.

thats why i love to play poker against people who drink alcohol...they dont have to get drunk for me to gain an advantage...just a drink or 2 is enough

>>>>>you don't have to have full use of "your blood" to play roulette, bob. a chimp could play it.>>>>

I have played roulette many times in my life.....and witnessed the dealer miscalculate the payout....usually to the detriment of the gambler

I always have a clear head and calculate it in my mind....while he/she is clearing the board of losing chips

But ask a person with alcohol in their system to correct a dealers payout.....its rare

Ask a person with alcohol in their system to notice that the dealer swept away their corner bet.....its rare....they are too busy smiling, laugghing,. celebrating their straight up win that they didnt even notice they were screwed.

Of course I have seen sober people take whatever the dealer counts out for them assuming it has to be right.....but thats just laziness.....not drug induced.

alcohol is not free.....there is a cost

and the casino collects that cost from the gambling public in their drug assisted losses.

Fact is, I'm very sure I'm better with alcohol in my system. It gives me a better sense of pattern recognition in others' betting, and thus a better read. The temperance nuts put their fingers in their ears and hiss at any suggestion that alcohol might be anything but destructive, but the fact is we built this society with a slight buzz on because it was better than cholera, and the evidence backs me up.

Then again, I'll never forget that night I gave Bovada $4000 from a bottle of Wild Turkey. Then again, I'd got it all from them (and card players), and not so long after this happened.

Quote: LarryS

So you are going slower at a negative expectation game, but also making poorer decisions as per strategy and more reckless undisciplined decisions as per money management

After the first drink....you are "under the influence"....maybe not legally drunk as per blood alcohol levels......but still your brain is "influenced".....rather quickly.

thats why i love to play poker against people who drink alcohol...they dont have to get drunk for me to gain an advantage...just a drink or 2 is enough

I suppose the first thing I should point out is that poker is not a game I would play while anything close to inebriated. I also don't know where you are geographically, but depending on the stakes (if you were close or ever wanted to meet me in Vegas when I go) and you wanted to play me in a little Texas Hold 'Em, heads-up, with one of the conditions being I drink two beers of my choosing beforehand, I accept the challenge if you feel that gives you an advantage over me.

I can't speak to strategy or money management with what I am saying for three reasons:

1.) If I'm referring to Video Poker, I don't play it better or worse, just more slowly. Secondly, if we are talking about negative expectation Video Poker and playing at about half of my normal speed, the strategy errors would have to be extremely egregious...like throwing a pair of Jacks away in favor of holding nothing in JoB (maybe not that, but you get my point)...to have the same expected $$$ loss as playing the negative expectation game at my normal speed.

The other thing is, I'm probably playing for the drinks if I am drinking while playing Video Poker, so I might only be playing at 1/4th of my normal speed if I'm just feeling nice and relaxed and trying to have a good time.

2.) Craps, Pass Line Minimum, single or double Odds, nothing else. If you find yourself making worse bets than usual at Craps as a result of drinking, or suddenly find yourself willing to lose more money than you budgeted to potentially lose at the Craps Table, then I concur you should not drink and gamble.

If, however, you play the game the same way and have the same Expected $$$ Loss as you otherwise would, I don't see the problem. The dice are just the dice, as long as I am not making stupid bets, the dice don't care if I have been drinking or not.

3.) Video Keno is another game I like. Sit there and hit the button. I tend to hit that button much less frequently when playing for drinks, so my expected loss per time played is less, and again, the RNG doesn't care whether I am drinking or not.

I believe there are three kinds of people when they drink:

1.) People who drink, but remain in control of themselves. These people can drink but have the alcohol have relatively little influence on their overall decision-making. These people can probably drink and gamble, except they may not want to attempt to count cards at BJ if that is what they normally do, though I imagine there are probably still some who could.

2.) People who drink and use the fact that they are drunk as a reprieve from responsibility, or to alleviate their perceived responsibility for what they do. In other words, the decision-making ability of these people is relatively unimpaired, "I know this is a bad idea," but they use the drinking as an excuse to do what they would want to do anyway, but would otherwise not want to be responsible for. These people should probably not drink and gamble. It's already difficult for them to repress betting tendencies that I would describe as, "Crazy."

3.) People who are legitimately out of control, or drink to such point, and exercise horrible decision-making when drinking. These people are not using the fact that they are drinking as a reprieve from the consequences of poor decisions, they legitimately believe that they are still making good decisions. These people tend to be somewhat stupid, to begin with, (not always, many smart people have the tendency, too) should definitely not gamble when intoxicated and would probably be well-advised to neither drink nor gamble, at all.

In any event, I place myself in the first category and have little to no reason to believe otherwise. Again, I play VP/VK/Slots so slowly when I drink that my expected loss is actually less than it would cost me just to buy the alcohol AND I have a lot more fun, same with Craps. I only drink when playing Craps if I would be at least playing Craps anyway, though, I wouldn't bet $5.00 PL Minimums just for the comped drinks! A $0.25 Max Bet on a $0.05/denom VP machine, though, absolutely!

I used to drink while playing Craps, figuring that was one game it didn't matter; and I enjoyed it.

I've moved away from that, though. I've gotten to where I like to watch the dealers [and myself and my chips] looking for errors. Anytime money is involved, I've decided, might as well keep your wits.

I might have one drink.

I could be pretty well thrashed and I would notice if my Odds were not paid right, I also don't make Come Bets, literally just PL and 1x or 2x Odds, so I'd still notice an incorrect pay.

I always keep the Colorado Kool Aids flowing when I'm playing craps and especially when I'm at the roulette table. I usually start with PL and 2x odds with either place on 6/8 or a come bet with odds. I'll increase odds as I'm winning regardless if I'm drunk or sober. I will admit to throwing a $1 chip every once in a while on a hardway bet when I'm drinking. I don't think I could drink while playing BJ though.

I will drink whatever the best scotch they will bring me for free is. And I will drink a lot of it.

I can easily count and play blackjack while buzzed, so it's not really a problem.

Quote: odiousgambit

Anytime money is involved, I've decided, might as well keep your wits.

Gee, a revelation. That's why I said people who
drink and gamble have issues. Benny Binion also
had a revelation when he noticed that drinking
people lost a hell of a lot more than sober people,
and changed Vegas forever.

If you saw grocery stores giving free hits of killer
weed on a bong to everybody who came in, so they
would get massive munchies and spend their asses
off, you would cry foul. But when a casino offers a
free drug to do the same thing, you say 'Hey, thanks'.

Issues..

But rumor has it that Walmart in Grand Junction will be doing exactly that. As soon as they get a large inventory of marijuana.