How much exaggeration is done on this forum?
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I find it amazing that people write on here that they have $2000 across and $9000 in their rack. I know a few people personally that do bet this large but these people NEVER talk about how much money they have at stake. They also just talk about the rolls or a "big bet" that lost.
Almost everyday I read threads where posters are saying they have a TON of money at stake. I am calling BS on almost all of these people. I know there are quite a few people on here that bet large but most of those people, just like the people I know never talk about the dollar amount. Even ACE, in his trip reports never really says an amount. All that we know is that he sits at a $100 table.
Quote: GWAEfirst off, I HATE when people put the bigot section in a poll but I have come to the dark side.
I find it amazing that people write on here that they have $2000 across and $9000 in their rack. I know a few people personally that do bet this large but these people NEVER talk about how much money they have at stake. They also just talk about the rolls or a "big bet" that lost.
Almost everyday I read threads where posters are saying they have a TON of money at stake. I am calling BS on almost all of these people. I know there are quite a few people on here that bet large but most of those people, just like the people I know never talk about the dollar amount. Even ACE, in his trip reports never really says an amount. All that we know is that he sits at a $100 table.
I can only speak for myself but I have never exaggerated, I don't really see the point. I am not trying to impress people I don't know and like they would really care about how much I am betting.
Quote: BeardgoatAlso I have this thought that EvenBob has a little black book of details on each member that he'll bring up if needed.
EvenBob is ready to pounce 24/7.
Quote: Mission146If I'm exaggerating in my most recent trip report about $5 PL with single Odds, I feel really sorry for myself...lol
Don't lie it was $1 PL with no odds.
Quote: TranscendDon't lie it was $1 PL with no odds.
I thought I saw a $1 doey-don't with no odds. He just had to get his hands on those dice! :)
Quote: GWAEfirst off, I HATE when people put the bigot section in a poll but I have come to the dark side.
No poll is complete without the bigot option. We have lots of bigots here, and it's always good for 5-7 votes.
Quote: TranscendDon't lie it was $1 PL with no odds.
I wish! If that was the minimum, then that is what I would bet, except I'd probably take full Odds then.
Quote: Beethoven9thNo poll is complete without the bigot option. We have lots of bigots here, and it's always good for 5-7 votes.
I guess on polls like this where the results don't mean anything I guess its ok. There are some polls like the wizards meet up poll where the results actually mean something that I think it should be eliminated.
Quote: GWAEfirst off, I HATE when people put the bigot section in a poll but I have come to the dark side.
I find it amazing that people write on here that they have $2000 across and $9000 in their rack. I know a few people personally that do bet this large but these people NEVER talk about how much money they have at stake. They also just talk about the rolls or a "big bet" that lost.
Almost everyday I read threads where posters are saying they have a TON of money at stake. I am calling BS on almost all of these people. I know there are quite a few people on here that bet large but most of those people, just like the people I know never talk about the dollar amount. Even ACE, in his trip reports never really says an amount. All that we know is that he sits at a $100 table.
In my visits to the casino playing $25.00 Craps table, I notice an average buy-in around 1-2k and in many occasions see an average rack of 5-6k shortly after a hot roller. I must say at a $5.00 table seeing someone with this type of cash in the rack is just plain stupid yet I never see more than $1000 in a rack at a $5.00 table. Believe it though, it's normal at a $25.00 table.
Many start with $160 across and don't be too surprised when the bets reach 1k on the table in a short time. I don't play the $100 table but can easily say 10k-15k is a good average. Don't be fooled by these big numbers because in most cases it's just pressed winnings that many will not care for much because they are winning in most cases just shortly after 4-5 numbers are rolled. my average buy in is $500-$600 per visit and I lose quite often, but many winning days I leave with 4k-5k and some days as high as 10k.
Stay away from dark side betting, those guys make if lucky a few hundred but highly unlikely I ever see any dark shooters leave with money in their pockets.
Quote: CrapsGeniousStay away from dark side betting, those guys make if lucky a few hundred but highly unlikely I ever see any dark shooters leave with money in their pockets.
Another "Genious Gem"! Maybe you don't see it because after a few 7-outs you are done and leave the table while the dark siders are still adding to their racks, and of course, if you're winning you see don't bettors throw in the towel and walk away. You should try it some time.
Quote: Sabretom2I've often thought many posters exaggerate about their VP proficiency. 1000 hands an hour without error might be a bit of a stretch but it seems to be the standard around here. I play on my practice software (bought from the wizard) at a rate of about 650 an hour with 99% accuracy and feel pretty good about it.
When I played VP with the Wizard last year I was clocking in at about 1700 hands/hour on a medium-speed machine.
The reason I can play a VP machine "fast" compared to playing on a phone or a computer, is because the VP machine has five separate Hold buttons which can be pressed simultaneously, whereas on a phone or computer you have to hold cards one at a time. Anyone holding cards one at a time at the casino is going to have a low number of hands per hour compared to someone who holds cards simultaneously.
Not all machines are capable of honoring multiple simultaneous Hold button presses, and some machines are very slow. The conditions have to be just right.
Quote: seattlediceAnother "Genious Gem"! Maybe you don't see it because after a few 7-outs you are done and leave the table while the dark siders are still adding to their racks, and of course, if you're winning you see don't bettors throw in the towel and walk away. You should try it some time.
I had my share in darkside betting and do see the odd few fill their racks, but very few. Maybe you're right because I do leave shortly after when losing my bank roll.
Quote: JBWhen I played VP with the Wizard last year I was clocking in at about 1700 hands/hour on a medium-speed machine.
The reason I can play a VP machine "fast" compared to playing on a phone or a computer, is because the VP machine has five separate Hold buttons which can be pressed simultaneously, whereas on a phone or computer you have to hold cards one at a time. Anyone holding cards one at a time at the casino is going to have a low number of hands per hour compared to someone who holds cards simultaneously.
Not all machines are capable of honoring multiple simultaneous Hold button presses, and some machines are very slow. The conditions have to be just right.
1700 hands, Holy crap! that's like a hand every .5 seconds. I can see maybe 3 seconds per hand = 1200 hands.
Quote: CrapsGenious1700 hands, Holy crap! that's like a hand every .5 seconds. I can see maybe 3 seconds per hand = 1200 hands.
I think it was like 1671 or something like that. It was a rough calculation based on one minute of timing, during which I didn't have any questionable hands. I did have several hands before and after the timed period that I had to pause and think about. I'm certainly not able to maintain that pace all the time.
Quote: GWAEfirst off, I HATE when people put the bigot section in a poll but I have come to the dark side.
I find it amazing that people write on here that they have $2000 across and $9000 in their rack. I know a few people personally that do bet this large but these people NEVER talk about how much money they have at stake. They also just talk about the rolls or a "big bet" that lost.
Almost everyday I read threads where posters are saying they have a TON of money at stake. I am calling BS on almost all of these people. I know there are quite a few people on here that bet large but most of those people, just like the people I know never talk about the dollar amount. Even ACE, in his trip reports never really says an amount. All that we know is that he sits at a $100 table.
I don't exaggerate, but if someone else does, I don't care. I don't remember anyhow. You can add three zeroes to the end of whatever numbers you post, you can change dollars to quatloos, whatever, it doesn't matter. The parts that matter, or are interesting, have nothing to do with the amounts. The good parts are about how to deal with gambling, winning and losing, and hospitality or lack of it. The money isn't worth reading about.
Quote: JBWhen I played VP with the Wizard last year I was clocking in at about 1700 hands/hour on a medium-speed machine.
The reason I can play a VP machine "fast" compared to playing on a phone or a computer, is because the VP machine has five separate Hold buttons which can be pressed simultaneously, whereas on a phone or computer you have to hold cards one at a time. Anyone holding cards one at a time at the casino is going to have a low number of hands per hour compared to someone who holds cards simultaneously.
Not all machines are capable of honoring multiple simultaneous Hold button presses, and some machines are very slow. The conditions have to be just right.
Yeah, that's impressive. How confident are you in your accuracy at that rate? I'd rather play 500 HPR at 100% than 1200 at 98%. With my limited experience, I'm normally shocked when a make a mistake and they're always the stupidest (miss a second pair, hold pair instead of set). If anyone other than software told me I had done this, I wouldn't believe it.
There are exaggerations, half truths and outright lies on this forum just as there are everywhere in life. The truth is in the details and that's where most people trip up. I have seen through some posts here but it's not my place to call them out without a very good reason. If someone can't or won't be truthful on an internet forum, that's fine with me. Some of it can be quite comical and entertaining.
Wow 1700 per hour is amazing! I play pretty slow maybe 800 per hour.Playing on the computer is much slower than playing a real machine.I only play one handed, I. Just can't get used to using my left hand.Quote: JBWhen I played VP with the Wizard last year I was clocking in at about 1700 hands/hour on a medium-speed machine.
The reason I can play a VP machine "fast" compared to playing on a phone or a computer, is because the VP machine has five separate Hold buttons which can be pressed simultaneously, whereas on a phone or computer you have to hold cards one at a time. Anyone holding cards one at a time at the casino is going to have a low number of hands per hour compared to someone who holds cards simultaneously.
Not all machines are capable of honoring multiple simultaneous Hold button presses, and some machines are very slow. The conditions have to be just right.
is concerned, that's why I never mention dollar
amounts. I assume everybody exaggerates in one
direction or the other and I bet I'm not wrong.
Quote: GWAEI guess on polls like this where the results don't mean anything I guess its ok. There are some polls like the wizards meet up poll where the results actually mean something that I think it should be eliminated.
As long as you check the box "Allow people to vote for more than one item" when creating a poll, then everything should be fine.
If someone insists something, such as I never lose at a casino, it seems highly unlikely; but statically there must be people out there who have been a reasonable number of times and never lost. Of course if you take a specific person and ask them not to lose for their next N visits (assuming they can't use odds-on methods, bet $1m to win $5), it 's unlikely.
In the same way one knows that given five horse races, each with six equally likely runners, one person in 7776 people will have found every winner. Those who know Derren Brown know what I'm talking about, therefore he was truthful in finding a person who had "selected" the winners of the last five races. Similarly Derren showed how to toss a fair coin and have it come up ten heads in a row - no trickery, no camera tricks, just mathematics.
I don't think we should discriminate against the bigots, they have equal rights to the rest of us even though they are wrong!!! :)
People will very seldom tell the truth about money and who can blame them. If they state they just won $100k playing the $100 craps table then he will have to fend off his families and friends with their hands out......
Anyway, people can say and do whatever they want as long as it is within the contraints of the rules of this website and forum!
Quote: GWAEfirst off, I HATE when people put the bigot section in a poll but I have come to the dark side.
I find it amazing that people write on here that they have $2000 across and $9000 in their rack. I know a few people personally that do bet this large but these people NEVER talk about how much money they have at stake. They also just talk about the rolls or a "big bet" that lost.
Almost everyday I read threads where posters are saying they have a TON of money at stake. I am calling BS on almost all of these people. I know there are quite a few people on here that bet large but most of those people, just like the people I know never talk about the dollar amount. Even ACE, in his trip reports never really says an amount. All that we know is that he sits at a $100 table.
i'm so rich, a $25K chip is a penny to me and not worth picking up if dropped from my daily full rack of 100k chips at macau playing 1% high limits bacarat
Quote: beachbumbabsthe generalizations that accompany opinions, either by claiming to speak for groups or demographics, or by claims of "always", "never", "every", "none" something.
Only robots don't use generalizations, and they're
such fun to talk with.
Quote: kewljYou can usually figure out pretty quickly, who is credible and who is BSing.
If somebody has been posting for years,
you pretty much know what to expect
from them, just like real life. I'll need
another 10K posts before I'm figured
out, however.
