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January 16th, 2014 at 11:15:52 AM permalink
a few months ago Drew Brees was hammered in the media for only leaving 3 dollar tip for a take out order.

I ask this out of stupidity.

When I go to denneys, or an average chinese resteraunt, or Joes Diner.if I eat in and leave a 10 dollar tip ...does part of that go to the kitchen staff?

When I pick up chinese food, or a pizza...i generally dont leave a tip for take out. But now I am thinking if brees is being hammered....the only reason he would faulted is if the tip would have gone to the cooking staff. And on take out does all those tips go to the cooking staff? since there is no wait staff, or clean-up staff being used.
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January 16th, 2014 at 11:45:33 AM permalink
Historically take-out has a zero tip liability and not tipping is acceptable. Yes I think it's common for tipped employees to do what is called tipping out to nontipped staff. Your thinking the money goes directly to the cooks is incorrect. It goes to whoever has their hand out.
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January 16th, 2014 at 12:08:17 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Historically take-out has a zero tip liability and not tipping is acceptable. Yes I think it's common for tipped employees to do what is called tipping out to nontipped staff. Your thinking the money goes directly to the cooks is incorrect. It goes to whoever has their hand out.



Good, I feel better on not giving tips for take out. I mean if I go to the supermarket deli dept, I can get some hot food dishes. If the guy behind the counter at the deli, puts the hot food in a take out box and weighs it and hands it to me..I dont see anyone tipping him. Someone in the backgroud cooked it...and he is packaging it for me...yet no tip. So the same thing is done in a reseraunt.. Someone cooks it and packages it and I pay for it. No tip either.

But then again there seems to be many places asking for tips that I never thought of giving tips 20 years ago. Ice cream scoppers have a tip jar, sub sandwich makers have a tip jar, buy a slice of pizza and a coke...a tip jar at the register,, even leaving the person who prepares your coffee drink a dollar or more because they are "baristas". All that is "take out" as well
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January 16th, 2014 at 12:41:53 PM permalink
I think at titty bars the dancers tip the DJ, but I don't have any way to substantiate that-it's something I heard.
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January 16th, 2014 at 12:43:50 PM permalink
take out from there usually requires a tip after
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January 16th, 2014 at 12:46:16 PM permalink
Wait staff tip out to bus people. The kitchen staff are on straight salary.

In bars the wait staff tips out to the bartenders and to bus people.

The bartenders tip out to the bar-backs. In most bars this is before the wait staff tips out to the bartenders.

Security/bouncers often don't get tipped nor tipped out. I'm not sure about clubs where a table can get an assigned bouncer. I know they get tipped from the customer, but don't know about sharing it.

DJs / bands / etc can get direct tips, but they keep it and don't get any tip outs.


In my DJ days, if I got a total of $5 per night, it was a good night. After a while, I stopped accepting tips because the tippers generally became jerks with stupid requests, or demands for their song to be played next. So keep your stupid dollar.

Sometimes, a guy would ask for a song and say that if I play it, they'd get laid. So? What's in it for me?
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January 16th, 2014 at 12:56:21 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Wait staff tip out to bus people. The kitchen staff are on straight salary.

In bars the wait staff tips out to the bartenders and to bus people.

The bartenders tip out to the bar-backs. In most bars this is before the wait staff tips out to the bartenders.

Security/bouncers often don't get tipped nor tipped out. I'm not sure about clubs where a table can get an assigned bouncer. I know they get tipped from the customer, but don't know about sharing it.

DJs / bands / etc can get direct tips, but they keep it and don't get any tip outs.


In my DJ days, if I got a total of $5 per night, it was a good night. After a while, I stopped accepting tips because the tippers generally became jerks with stupid requests, or demands for their song to be played next. So keep your stupid dollar.

Sometimes, a guy would ask for a song and say that if I play it, they'd get laid. So? What's in it for me?




good info

so what youare saying is that if you give a tip for take out at a resteraunt.....the kitchen gets no money from that tip...so you are actually just giving money to someone who performed no service for you.
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January 16th, 2014 at 1:04:37 PM permalink
I'm a tip-everybody person. I don't tip for take-out. FWIW.
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January 16th, 2014 at 1:05:18 PM permalink
Quote: LarryS

good info

so what youare saying is that if you give a tip for take out at a resteraunt.....the kitchen gets no money from that tip...so you are actually just giving money to someone who performed no service for you.



Typically, yes. While not anything extraordinary, the person does perform service by taking your order, usually has to go to several different kitchen stations to put the order together, gets utensils/condiments/etc, at some places brings it to your car, so on and so forth. Just taking a person's order can sometimes be nerve-grating - what size? no onions, add tomato, no ketchup or mustard but please add ketchup (what?) "hold on while i let my 4 year old try to explain what she wants to you" "let me pass the phone around the room and each person will tell you what they want" It's endless.

I'm not necessarily saying they deserve a tip, after all they are pretty much just doing their job, but I wouldn't say it's "throwing money away" to give them a tip.
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January 16th, 2014 at 1:13:41 PM permalink
That sounds exactly like what a fast food drive through employee does. I'm not saying don't tip them, but then don't forget about the Wendy's guy. Tipping or not tipping is socially akward in almost all situations other than waiter, waitress, bartender or cab. The whole system is messed up.beyond fixing, kinda like healthcare.....
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January 16th, 2014 at 1:19:19 PM permalink
so the cashierand or the seating person(sometimes the same person)....gets the tip that you add onto your credit card slip. I think thats the person who usually takes the order on the phone,

although more and more internet orders are allowed
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January 16th, 2014 at 1:24:12 PM permalink
I have seen a few guys tip the pharmacist. Then again, maybe it wasn't a tip !
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January 16th, 2014 at 1:35:39 PM permalink
Quote: LarryS

good info

so what youare saying is that if you give a tip for take out at a resteraunt.....the kitchen gets no money from that tip...so you are actually just giving money to someone who performed no service for you.

Yeah. Take out restaurant - no tips.

HOWEVER, a take out order at a regular restaurant generally DOES invoke a tip. After all, you're now dealing with a person who normally gets tips. But more than that, you're occupying their time resulting in somewhat less attention to their other tables. So the time taken for your order may cost them a tip, or a reduced tip, from someone else.
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January 16th, 2014 at 1:43:35 PM permalink
I sometimes get take-out from Rib City. I tip the cashier up front. My order is always first out of the kitchen !
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January 16th, 2014 at 2:21:07 PM permalink
I think take out should be tipped. There's potential difficulty finding the place, a dog to avoid, multiple orders at a business. Not to mention driving through traffic. That said I tip the pizza guy two or three bucks. That's way higher than most people, so why is Brees railed? Was he "supposed" to give twenty bucks just cause he's rich? BS
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January 16th, 2014 at 2:23:03 PM permalink
Quote: ewjones080

I think take out should be tipped. There's potential difficulty finding the place, a dog to avoid, multiple orders at a business. Not to mention driving through traffic. That said I tip the pizza guy two or three bucks. That's way higher than most people, so why is Brees railed? Was he "supposed" to give twenty bucks just cause he's rich? BS



Are you talking about delivery? Take-out generally refers to picking up the food yourself.
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January 16th, 2014 at 2:26:16 PM permalink
We may be discussing two different things, takeout that you pick and takeout that is delivered to you. Surely they're handled differently.
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January 16th, 2014 at 2:45:13 PM permalink
I am a full grown adult, and I always seem to need to ask someone else for help with tipping protocols... I'm invited to a private party at a club.. do I tip the person hanging up my coat? An 18% tip is added to my bill at a large dinner table... if I add 2% more am I looked upon as cheap?... Which hospital employees does my group 'tip' around the holidays (We have a formal group meeting to discuss this!).... I'm at an AYCE/AYCD all inclusive resort where you walk around with just your bathing suit most of the time... do you tip the bartenders? How? Massage?...I found a massage place here that strictly prohibits tipping... the 'tip' is included in the hourly fee... I get great gambling advice from a Wizard on the internet... tip him? NOT!!! (But I give him free medical advice)... There is a burger place near Mizzou that I took my son to that prohibited tipping, of course the prices were higher... but I loved it.... I'm about to go for drinks with a large group of people... I leave my credit card to run the tab... at the end of the evening people ask what they should give me... I just tell them whatever they think.... this never works out well for me.... few people include tax/tip....
Well... I'll be in Vegas next week not knowing who or how much to tip....
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January 16th, 2014 at 2:47:47 PM permalink
Quote: ewjones080

I think take out should be tipped. There's potential difficulty finding the place, a dog to avoid, multiple orders at a business. Not to mention driving through traffic. That said I tip the pizza guy two or three bucks. That's way higher than most people, so why is Brees railed? Was he "supposed" to give twenty bucks just cause he's rich? BS



Tipping a pizza driver $2 or $3 is standard and it should be. My rule of thumb on pizza would be 10-15% with a $2 minimum.
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January 16th, 2014 at 2:51:53 PM permalink
Quote: ewjones080

I think take out should be tipped. There's potential difficulty finding the place, a dog to avoid, multiple orders at a business. Not to mention driving through traffic. That said I tip the pizza guy two or three bucks. That's way higher than most people, so why is Brees railed? Was he "supposed" to give twenty bucks just cause he's rich? BS



delivery meals are not "take out".....you are not taking anything out.....someone els eis taking it out for you and bringing it to your doorstep.

If you see a big sign on a chinese resteraunt that flashes "take out"......does not mean they deliver
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January 16th, 2014 at 3:07:49 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Yeah. Take out restaurant - no tips.

HOWEVER, a take out order at a regular restaurant generally DOES invoke a tip. After all, you're now dealing with a person who normally gets tips. But more than that, you're occupying their time resulting in somewhat less attention to their other tables. So the time taken for your order may cost them a tip, or a reduced tip, from someone else.



How do we know that the person involved normally gets tips. In the chinese resteraunt I go to, there is a person who rings the register, and seats people. He takes the order on the phone, and he goes in the back and comes out with a bag. I dont see the wait staff being involved in the process.

I agree that if I go to a diner, and ask up front to place an order to go...and they send me to the counter where people are eating for a waitperson to take my order, and bag .;...I feel that needs a tip.

When I was at dennys. the seating person took my order, rang me up, and then brought the order out to me in the waiting area.

when I pick up chinese, pizza, wingstop wings, ....anything that has a regular take out business....I dont leave a tip.....including when someone scoops icecream for me, or makes a sub sandwich in front of me.

But if its a place that isnt in existance for take out, and wait staff have to do double duty to take care of stray take out orders....then a tip is needed.

Just my opinion
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January 16th, 2014 at 3:17:45 PM permalink
I see no reason to tip for a take out order at all. As to does some go to the kitchen staff I think it depends on the local store. At the main casino here the cocktail waitresses must share with the bartenders. When I did some banquet server work I once helped a bartender by getting some glassware for him and at the end he is counting his tips and says, "hey, bro, hold on" and peeled me off like $5. The message there was clear.
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January 16th, 2014 at 4:28:03 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Are you talking about delivery? Take-out generally refers to picking up the food yourself.



Ah yes.. Delivery.. Take out I wouldn't.. I've only done it once and thought for a moment "Should I tip? .. naah"

I feel a little weird tipping a buck for a BOTTLE of beer.. You grabbed it and popped the top off, THAT deserves a buck? But I still do it out of social pressure.. Mixed drinks are different..
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January 16th, 2014 at 5:46:36 PM permalink
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Tipping a pizza driver $2 or $3 is standard and it should be. My rule of thumb on pizza would be 10-15% with a $2 minimum.



I delivered 10 years ago and kept a spreadsheet of my tips every day. I averaged $2.50 per delivery back then. I made minimum wage, plus $0.50 per delivery and tips. Unfortunately, the "delivery fee" usually goes straight to the shop. It was $1.50 at the time - so the store was raking in $1.00 per order for absolutely nothing! Vehicle, gas, insurance, etc. was all my own responsibility on that measly wage.

On top of everything ewjones080 mentioned, add: getting ziploc baggies full of change, people not answering the door, multiple tenants at one location and not knowing who actually ordered, having to deal with teenagers thinking they are funny by coming to the door naked (was only ever dudes :[ ,) threats of being robbed, and last but definitely not least, being propositioned for sex from old creepy dudes (ugh!)

I typically just pick up my own food now since it's cheaper, faster, and the food is hotter/not soggy, but when I do get delivery I make sure I give at least $5, maybe more if it's a holiday, raining/snowing, exceptionally cold, etc.
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January 16th, 2014 at 8:43:36 PM permalink
SOOPOO,

I'm going out on a limb here and giving you a tipping guide based on what I do. Your mileage may vary. You're a doctor, so you have the bankroll to share it, and the inclination to do it. This all assumes you're happy with the service.

Sit-down restaurant: 15-20% of the bill, after tax. When you're putting a credit card on tab for a bunch of other people, keep a menu after they collect them, and when someone in your party asks, check the price ; add 20% quick and give them that. Good friends will appreciate your fairness (better friends will know what they owe and give you too much, not make you tell them; you should refund if you know they overpaid); moochers you can do without anyway. The best way is to pass around the folder when it comes to the table, and have everyone put in what they owe off the bill, without having to discuss it. Hard for even a moocher to pass the folder without putting money in with everyone watching.

Bar, gambling cocktails you pay for, open bar at an event, serve-yourself buffet: $1/drink. Gambling where drinks are free: 1-2$ (I do $2 unless the drinks are small and watery).

Delivery food guy: 10%, minimum $2.

Valet: $2-5 depending on the place. Less to none if they charge ridiculous parking, like 20 or more.

Hotel maid: $5 day if it's a good hotel, maybe less at a basic hotel, none if the room is dirty. Washroom attendant: $1-2.

Masseuse: $10-20. Hairdresser: $10-20. Bellhop: $5-10 depending on how many bags. Airport skycaps: $2 per checked bag. If you're overweight on a bag, put a $5 up there and you usually don't have to pay the fee.

Christmas: Doorman minimum 20 up to 100. Mailman 10. If you have a maid, 1 day's pay. Regular garage attendant (like in an apartment): 20-50.

Gambling: Host: find out what they like. Money is crass. Good wine or great scotch, gift card to a hot store for $100, rare coin or cool painting; all stuff I've given most gratefully enjoyed.

Dealers: I give 10% of any big bonus pay, tip for service at end of that dealer's time at the table, tip at the end of a good run.

Slots: Hand-pay 2-5% of win.

More important than tips: SEE the people who are making your life easier, smile at them, thank them, don't assume anything, don't start out mad if something's not to your liking. They want you to be happy with the service; give them a chance to serve you well and appreciate what they did.
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January 16th, 2014 at 10:01:19 PM permalink
that all sounds reasonable....I recognize my values jivewith your tipping values.

Except when I get my 15 dollar haircut...I only give a 5 dollar tip

Do you tip on takeout?..pizza, chinese, subs,
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January 16th, 2014 at 11:18:26 PM permalink
Quote: LarryS

that all sounds reasonable....I recognize my values jivewith your tipping values.

Except when I get my 15 dollar haircut...I only give a 5 dollar tip

Do you tip on takeout?..pizza, chinese, subs,



Haircuts - I do the same thing. It doesn't make sense to tip so much for me since I bounce around many Wal-mart barbers, but regardless.

Usually I don't tip on takeout. That's the reason why I am eating away from the store, I am either busy or prefer not to tip since I'm cheap.

Handpays - 1-2% unless it's an absurdly low amount, such as $250 or so.... which has happened, or an amount that based on the denomination isn't a jackpot but is a decent take, usually up to my discretion.

Housekeeping - I never get maid service between stays, but I leave $2 at checkout.

Bars - $1 per drink, maybe more for alcohol but I don't drink. I have pulled tips back if the bartender was being a hardass about my gambling, or refused to pay me a bonus on a special (happened at a small bar, this lady refused my 4OAK bonus because I already used a new member bonus and she didn't even tell me that till after I hit)

I tipped a security guard for giving a cashout ticket back to me when I dropped it since he was honest and helped keep it away from a vulture's hands behind me. I assumed I couldn't tip them by law but I asked and was told it was okay so I slipped him a $5.
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January 17th, 2014 at 12:27:24 AM permalink
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Slots: Hand-pay 2-5% of win.
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This is the only part of what you wrote I
disagree with. I wouldn't give a slot person
jack, I consider it to be the biggest ripoff
in the casino. If my wife tipped them I
would be super pissed, screw slots.
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January 17th, 2014 at 1:41:15 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

SOOPOO,

I'm going out on a limb here and giving you a tipping guide based on what I do. Your mileage may vary. You're a doctor, so you have the bankroll to share it, and the inclination to do it. This all assumes you're happy with the service.

Sit-down restaurant: 15-20% of the bill, after tax. When you're putting a credit card on tab for a bunch of other people, keep a menu after they collect them, and when someone in your party asks, check the price ; add 20% quick and give them that. Good friends will appreciate your fairness (better friends will know what they owe and give you too much, not make you tell them; you should refund if you know they overpaid); moochers you can do without anyway. The best way is to pass around the folder when it comes to the table, and have everyone put in what they owe off the bill, without having to discuss it. Hard for even a moocher to pass the folder without putting money in with everyone watching.

Bar, gambling cocktails you pay for, open bar at an event, serve-yourself buffet: $1/drink. Gambling where drinks are free: 1-2$ (I do $2 unless the drinks are small and watery).

Delivery food guy: 10%, minimum $2.

Valet: $2-5 depending on the place. Less to none if they charge ridiculous parking, like 20 or more.

Hotel maid: $5 day if it's a good hotel, maybe less at a basic hotel, none if the room is dirty. Washroom attendant: $1-2.

Masseuse: $10-20. Hairdresser: $10-20. Bellhop: $5-10 depending on how many bags. Airport skycaps: $2 per checked bag. If you're overweight on a bag, put a $5 up there and you usually don't have to pay the fee.

Christmas: Doorman minimum 20 up to 100. Mailman 10. If you have a maid, 1 day's pay. Regular garage attendant (like in an apartment): 20-50.

Gambling: Host: find out what they like. Money is crass. Good wine or great scotch, gift card to a hot store for $100, rare coin or cool painting; all stuff I've given most gratefully enjoyed.

Dealers: I give 10% of any big bonus pay, tip for service at end of that dealer's time at the table, tip at the end of a good run.

Slots: Hand-pay 2-5% of win.

More important than tips: SEE the people who are making your life easier, smile at them, thank them, don't assume anything, don't start out mad if something's not to your liking. They want you to be happy with the service; give them a chance to serve you well and appreciate what they did.



You certainly are good at throwing your money away. Tip hotel maids? Why? The MAILMAN? Are you serious? Bigger tips at Christmas? WTF?? And worst of all, tipping HOSTS? They should be tipping their PLAYERS! Man alive..
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January 17th, 2014 at 3:41:56 AM permalink
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You certainly are good at throwing your money away. Tip hotel maids? Why? The MAILMAN? Are you serious? Bigger tips at Christmas? WTF?? And worst of all, tipping HOSTS? They should be tipping their PLAYERS! Man alive..



Sounds like you have never worked in any service industry...
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January 17th, 2014 at 4:09:25 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

SOOPOO,

I'm going out on a limb here and giving you a tipping guide based on what I do. Your mileage may vary. You're a doctor, so you have the bankroll to share it, and the inclination to do it. This all assumes you're happy with the service.

Sit-down restaurant: 15-20% of the bill, after tax. When you're putting a credit card on tab for a bunch of other people, keep a menu after they collect them, and when someone in your party asks, check the price ; add 20% quick and give them that. Good friends will appreciate your fairness (better friends will know what they owe and give you too much, not make you tell them; you should refund if you know they overpaid); moochers you can do without anyway. The best way is to pass around the folder when it comes to the table, and have everyone put in what they owe off the bill, without having to discuss it. Hard for even a moocher to pass the folder without putting money in with everyone watching.

Bar, gambling cocktails you pay for, open bar at an event, serve-yourself buffet: $1/drink. Gambling where drinks are free: 1-2$ (I do $2 unless the drinks are small and watery).

Delivery food guy: 10%, minimum $2.

Valet: $2-5 depending on the place. Less to none if they charge ridiculous parking, like 20 or more.

Hotel maid: $5 day if it's a good hotel, maybe less at a basic hotel, none if the room is dirty. Washroom attendant: $1-2.

Masseuse: $10-20. Hairdresser: $10-20. Bellhop: $5-10 depending on how many bags. Airport skycaps: $2 per checked bag. If you're overweight on a bag, put a $5 up there and you usually don't have to pay the fee.

Christmas: Doorman minimum 20 up to 100. Mailman 10. If you have a maid, 1 day's pay. Regular garage attendant (like in an apartment): 20-50.

Gambling: Host: find out what they like. Money is crass. Good wine or great scotch, gift card to a hot store for $100, rare coin or cool painting; all stuff I've given most gratefully enjoyed.

Dealers: I give 10% of any big bonus pay, tip for service at end of that dealer's time at the table, tip at the end of a good run.

Slots: Hand-pay 2-5% of win.

More important than tips: SEE the people who are making your life easier, smile at them, thank them, don't assume anything, don't start out mad if something's not to your liking. They want you to be happy with the service; give them a chance to serve you well and appreciate what they did.



Why do you tip again? Your hotel maid guideline is jumping out at me. You will tip less at a basic hotel because? The maid doesn't need the money? It's her fault the hotel is basic?
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January 17th, 2014 at 5:15:23 AM permalink
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Hotel maid: $5 day if it's a good hotel, maybe less at a basic hotel, none if the room is dirty. Washroom attendant: $1-2.

Masseuse: $10-20. .



Thanks, BBB. The rest I pretty much agreed with, but I have to admit I've been WAY under for the hotel maid. I have been between $1 and $2 per day, and only upped to the $2 a few years ago. If I actually see her or him, and ask for something, I tip $ immediately in addition to the daily 'fee'.

The place in town where I get my massage is prohibited from accepting tips as they take health insurance, and my stupid health insurance pays for one 'free' massage a month. I truly believe that the $10 -$20 tip you mention might be the tipping point as to why I don't get more massages! At $60 (which thus become $70 or $80) per hour it just seems to high.... And I know in Vegas that's probably $120 per hour...
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January 17th, 2014 at 10:29:18 AM permalink
Hotel maid because I did that job at age 14 for a summer and you have NO idea how hard work it is, almost everywhere for minimum pay. The only job I ever did that was harder was flying the corrugator at my Dad's plant for a summer. (That means, at one end of a football field sized machine (300 foot long), rolls of paper so large they can only travel by rail are fed into the machine. At the other end, after the paper has been waffled, glued and pressed into layers, scored for folding and cut to size, and rough die-cut via conveyer belt at very high speed, two humans very precisely grab and stack the finished flat product, which can be 8 feet on a side, up to 8 feet high on a rolling dolly, precisely vertical so it won't tilt and spill on moving, and the machine cannot be stopped except in emergency or to change the run plates. I was lifting 1-2 TONS per hour for 8 hours a day. Think Lucy and the chocolate factory with REALLY big and awkward objects.) Again, YMMV.

Better hotels give 2x/day service with turndowns and double cleans, change linens every day rather than just making the bed, go for a fresh bucket of ice every day, scrub toilets and showers every day, refresh paper products every day, bus room service or takeout food cartons immediately when called, and the rest. I also get extra soaps, extra coffee, extra towels, and anything else I ask for 24/7 because, for both the maids and I, I'm paying for that service. Basic hotels do not provide that level of service, but the maids do what they can, so if the room is clean and they are providing good service within their limitations, I acknowledge that with a $2-3/day tip. The trick is to tip them at the BEGINNING of the stay, along with a note saying thank you and whatever special service you want (like extra coffee), not the end, so you get the good service from minute one. The note is also necessary to delineate that it's their money and not some bills or chips you left in the room, which protects them; some hotels provide an envelope for this purpose.

BTW, I do not tip fast food or take-out places where I'm picking up the food except in special cases, as a couple people mentioned above. I do tip delivery people. I also tip movers and workmen who make a special effort fixing something at my house - "buy them a beer" or "buy them lunch" - $5-10.
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January 17th, 2014 at 11:54:09 AM permalink
I agree about the hoterl maids but I guess they get screwed out of tips alot because they are not right there in front of you as you are leaving..its so so easy to just forget..or in a casino hotel, justify that you lost so you cant afford the tip. I do tip diffewrently in a large hotel room vs a motel-6 hotel room because there is just more to clean.

I dont drink coffee but always wondered about tipping at a place like starbucks. Its "take out" for most people although some stay and drink.

If you are "taking out" you are paying top dollar for their product, and expect that the ingredients will be put together correctly. I know the person that puts those ingredients together is now called a "barrista"......but do they automatically deserve a tip, unless you ask them for extra service, like can u give me extra whipped cream, or extra chocolate syrup. But if they put the ingredients together like you should expect for a high priced starbucks product....do they get treated like any other "take out" preparer? If you stay and eat/drink I can see leaving a tip in the jar or on the crredit card receipt for the person cleaning up after you.

One or twice a year Imight buy a hot chocolate from a shopp like starbucks, but dont think that it involves a tip unless I ask for extra or different ingredients than i would normally get.
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January 17th, 2014 at 12:10:38 PM permalink
Quote: LarryS

I agree about the hoterl maids but I guess they get screwed out of tips alot because they are not right there in front of you as you are leaving..its so so easy to just forget..or in a casino hotel, justify that you lost so you cant afford the tip. I do tip diffewrently in a large hotel room vs a motel-6 hotel room because there is just more to clean.

I dont drink coffee but always wondered about tipping at a place like starbucks. Its "take out" for most people although some stay and drink.

If you are "taking out" you are paying top dollar for their product, and expect that the ingredients will be put together correctly. I know the person that puts those ingredients together is now called a "barrista"......but do they automatically deserve a tip, unless you ask them for extra service, like can u give me extra whipped cream, or extra chocolate syrup. But if they put the ingredients together like you should expect for a high priced starbucks product....do they get treated like any other "take out" preparer? If you stay and eat/drink I can see leaving a tip in the jar or on the crredit card receipt for the person cleaning up after you.

One or twice a year Imight buy a hot chocolate from a shopp like starbucks, but dont think that it involves a tip unless I ask for extra or different ingredients than i would normally get.



My general rule is that I'll tip for food being brought to me, but not if I have to pick it up from the counter myself. The tip is for service. If I have to serve myself, then no tip. The cost of the food and the preparation are included in the price.

The exception to this is bartenders; I tip even though I have to stand in line and get the drink myself. I don't extend this logic to starucks or other coffee shops. I don't really have a logical explanation for this. I don't think I'm stiffing the baristas though; I think I'm tipping bartenders when I shouldn't be. (If a waitress brings a coffee or drink to my table, that's different -- that is service which definitely deserves a tip)
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January 17th, 2014 at 12:21:45 PM permalink
Quote: tournamentking

You certainly are good at throwing your money away. Tip hotel maids? Why? The MAILMAN? .



Who do you tip, your mom when she
makes you a hot cocoa and tucks you
in bed at night? From you're obvious
naivete on how the real world works,
I'm assuming you haven't left home yet.
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January 17th, 2014 at 1:34:10 PM permalink
Watch the movie "Waiting" it will make you want to tip, especially the people that handle your food.
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January 17th, 2014 at 3:31:31 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Who do you tip, your mom when she
makes you a hot cocoa and tucks you
in bed at night? From you're obvious
naivete on how the real world works,
I'm assuming you haven't left home yet.



Typical provocative post from he who appears most bored here.

I tip those who serve that do what I ask them to do, not anyone who thinks just because they did their job deserves more than their paychecks. If you feel like handing a government worker some Christmas cash who'll then go home and tell his wife who al the saps were, great.
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January 17th, 2014 at 3:33:06 PM permalink
Quote: Transcend

Watch the movie "Waiting" it will make you want to tip, especially the people that handle your food.



I always tip barkeeps and food servers for that very reason.
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January 17th, 2014 at 3:43:31 PM permalink
Quote: tournamentking

Typical provocative post .



You seem amazed and stupified that anybody
would tip the maids who make up their room.
Who is that naive except somebody who still
lives at home and has never been in the real
world.
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January 17th, 2014 at 4:00:34 PM permalink
I try to tip everyone who works for tips and even some that don't. I have been known to stiff as well if they are jerks. I tend to over tip bartenders, cocktail waitresses and small restaurant employees, not every time. If i walk up to the bar and order a drink and walk off they get 1 or 2 bucks.

If I go to a place often and I get to know and like the employees, I tip more. I cant stand tipping 20% on high end meals. $400 comp and they want $80 bucks? No f-ing way I will do that when its just me and my GF going out. If i'm in a group I will tip what everyone else is. Gaming employees, I tip on a case by case basis, I have no standard that I follow. The cashier may get a few bucks or she may get nothing.

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January 18th, 2014 at 5:24:16 PM permalink
I tipped for help replacing the battery of my car in the parking lot of the auto parts store.
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January 18th, 2014 at 6:29:05 PM permalink
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I think at titty bars the dancers tip the DJ, but I don't have any way to substantiate that-it's something I heard.



Funny you should mention that. One of my best friend's uncles, he heard that too.
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