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You're right, I did not state what I actually meant, I meant to vote for someone other than JJ and actually state that they did so.
ok that I agree with. There would be no reason to state that you voted for someone else unless you were trying to somehow hurt JJs feelings.
I doubt if you are really sorry. You obviously don't like her and what she represents. Your posts have made that crystal clear. But we will see about 'not bothering her' anymore.
And the answer to the first question is yes.
Well, you don't know me. I meant what I said - I'm sorry if I caused her distress or for any other hurtful feelings for that matter.
Quote: aceofspadesQuote: Mission146
The feminist should not pay for a date with a man because she is then guilty of the very thing she is trying to eliminate. The feminist seeks equality, not a 180-degree role-reversal. A true feminist would seek for each person to pay for themselves on the date, and I've certainly been out with females who have wanted to do same. They mostly suck at tipping, though, so technically I have covered more than my share.
Here comes another broad generalization:
When a woman insists on paying her half of a date, she is not that into the guy and does not want the guy to expect anything.
My now-wife paid for her half of our first date and I could tell that things weren't going that well. I said something to her after the payment that caught her attention, however, and now it's 12+ years later.
No offense taken, Transcend. The difference between me (and several other women who post less frequently) and both of these ladies is that the first group is on a gaming forum to talk about gaming, and the second group is all about playing girl-games with a captive audience of mostly men. My career, my goals, and my philosophy have been all about being a human being first, competing and demanding consideration on merit. I give up a lot of hard-won ground as a female, with the tricks, irrational demands, pouting tantrums, convenient tears, and bottom-wiggling all off my play list. That has cost me many times in developing male-female relationships with traditionalist men, and would get in the way with many of you, though there are more than a few on here (not naming names; you know who you are) who would enjoy and celebrate my kind of person.
I do not condone HB's rant above. I think it profane and a complete overreaction to what happened, and I agree she invited it, from her forum name to her various threads referencing her looks, to her crafting expensive prop bets about her looks, to her resurrecting old threads about her looks when JJ had folks drooling over her. If I've counted correctly, this is the 4th time she's left the forum in a huff.
I think JJ found whatever she came here for, or decided it was a dry hole, and wanted an exit strategy which gave her some satisfaction. She's been on for only 6 weeks, and this is the 2nd time she's left in a huff.
I do not think Buzz should have been banned. I do not think Roger should have been banned. I care very much about what I consider to be personal friendships with both the Wizard and Mission, but when I have spent my life standing up for a meritocracy, a double standard which allows women to be as rude as HB is above without repercussion, and JJ to post topless videos and graphic sexual descriptions in a PG-by-rule forum without repercussion, while punishing the men is not going to pass me unnoticed. As ace said above, can we be adults here? I would take it one further; can we be people together here, and not held hostage to girl-games?
Now that's a post. +1
HB seemed to be upset with the attention JJ has been getting from the beginning
Very UntrueQuote: AxelWolf
I think she even commented on something regarding the Wizard finding a new favorite/hottie or something like that.
That was the straw that broke the camel's back.Quote: AxelWolf
...and I have to think Rogers comment was not what lead to her wanting to leave.
When I joined this forum I was 250 pounds. I chose the handle "HotBlonde" for my handle because it is a handle I had used on another site previous to joining here. I joined this site cause I had been following the Wizard for YEARS before. I have always looked up his gaming advice, strategies, hotel surveys, etc., etc.. I actually play with a somewhat substantial bankroll when I go to Vegas and I love math and calculating house edges, holds, comps, stuff like that. After years of following him on WoO I saw that he had a spinoff site and joined WoV. For the first year, and possibly even a bit longer, I posted here a lot and had a lot of fun. I actually was surprised to find that this was a mostly male forum as I thought this was just a site for people who love gambling and Vegas and that that would just include EVERYONE. Then, after being on here for probably just over a year or so I had the opportunity to turn my weight loss goals into a challenge. Even still at 250 pounds I claimed that I was not only going to lose the weight but that I would do my final weigh in in a bikini in front of everyone. Half way or so through the challenge SOOPOO and I were having issues and I told him I did not want him attending my weigh-in party. This was due to his insulting nature towards me and trying to hurt me. He told several lies about me in the thread including saying that I was asking to call off the challenge when I first got my foot drop. Even the Wizard told me he saw how he treated me in a condescending way when the 3 of us were together in April of that year! So I told SOOPOO I didn't want him around me during my weigh in trip and he did his best to play innocent on here and EVERYONE (except Nareed, who had my back) immediately took SOOPOO's side and decided to turn against me and said hurtful things about me and towards me. SOOPOO continued to play like he was Mr. Wonderful which just added fuel to the flames. I not only won the challenge with a 99.6 pound weight loss, but took and posted pics on here of my 100 pound loss of myself in a bikini. I did get a lot of congratulations, but some shmuck, who I don't remember offhand, posted the comment "thunder thighs". That was very, very hurtful. I had just lost a ton of weight and was not expecting to look perfect, and someone had to say something as cruel as that after I had exposed my body to you guys.
I honestly, truly think that men are insensitive and have no clue how hurtful you can be towards making comments about women's appearances. Our bodies weren't made SOLELY to be pleasurably satisfying to you. We're not objects. We're human beings with a heart and soul and feelings. Guess what? My body didn't look perfect after I lost all that weight but I sure looked DAMN good from all the effort I put in. And when I pay JJ a compliment saying that her picture probably looked sexier than mine, that's not an open invitation to say something hurtful to me. You guys will honestly never understand how stuff like that really hurts to the core. Women are always getting messages that we're not good enough in some way, not pretty enough, too fat, not a nice enough ass, big enough tits, etc. Again, we're not here on this planet to be molded to your sexual preferences. We're mothers, lovers, caretakers, pioneers, compassionate, loving and can do almost anything a man can do, and where we lack we make up for in things men can't do.
My broker had a "0 tolerance" policy when it came to sexual harrassment in our office, and when I came to him with concerns I had about another agent who I had become uncomfortable with, one of those concerns was this agent telling me I wasn't "slutty enough", my broker, very insensitively responded with, "But Anne, you're never here!" I couldn't believe his response! And it wasn't true that I was never there, I wasn't there every week but I came in when I needed to.
And I had a neighbor who just had it out for me and intimidated me and basically threatened me at our local Starbucks when I first moved in, spread lies about me, intimidated and harrassed a male friend of my roommate's who he thought was coming to see me, solicited a female friend of ours for an act of prostitution and tried to gain access to our apartment, went into my car and took the keys out of my car and kept them when I had left my engine running one day, opened up an email in my name and sent me intimidating emails with a picture of me he snuck of me from his camera phone and letting me know that he knew I was out of town and where I was, and after calling the police on him twice and reporting him to management they all said to get a restraining order against him. I did, and it cost me $600 and got a temporary restraining order which required him to turn in his two registered firearms, which he did not do and I had a detective and gun detail unit go to his apartment to retrieve them, and I went before a male judge to stay this restraining order and the judge dismissed the case. I was in total shock. I absolutely couldn't believe it.
Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is that women's feelings are OFTEN dismissed by men and not realizing how sensitive our feelings are. That's probably why we're such loving mothers, we're very intuitive and sensitive to other's feelings. Men seem to often lack this sensitivity. When my feelings are hurt or I'm uncomfortable by some man's comments or I'm scared that someone could be hiding in the back of my car or stalking me men tend to think we're overreacting or are making a big deal out of nothing. Our feelings are often dismissed or belittled and this is very, very sad.
I love my friend Michael but he has a very open free speech policy and allows anybody on here, even if they are not nice to other people. I'm tired of opening up myself on here and allowing myself to get shot down.
Nevermind, this thread is the most entertaining one... Holy cow people...
Who are you calling a cow? :-)
Who are you calling a cow? :-)
LMAO, I will not fall for it and be drawn into the drama!!!