Paigowdan
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December 15th, 2013 at 3:18:50 PM permalink
I gave a little help to a guy on LinkedIn, who has a bartending business; he asked about tips in casinos, we discussed a few things, all related to his preparation in developing a bartender's handbook. There's probably a quite a bit more for bartenders than for dealers in tip garnering (because there's more to do and less done in vain for a good bartender, IMO).

We probably have a few combo dealers/bartenders here in any case. Take a look, fellows.

Another food-for-thought topic.....
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EvenBob
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December 15th, 2013 at 3:37:53 PM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

There's probably a quite a bit more for bartenders than for dealers in tip garnering ..



The only way to get really good tips as a
bartender is to be a girl under 30 with a
boob job. She'll get tips just for showing
up for work. Men will flirt with her and they
always tip. We had a girl that filled in part
time in the bar, and she could make a hundred
bucks a night in my dive bar in 1980. Just
because she was young and cute. A guy who
worked the same night would make $15.
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FleaStiff
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December 15th, 2013 at 4:13:26 PM permalink
There are different types of bars and therefore different types of bartenders.

I wonder if the young, cute and artificially enhanced female would make that much money in a bar that catered to gay males?

Some bars emphasize bartender showmanship such as flipping of bottles and multiple drink orders being simultaneously and speedily filled.

As bars become more creative and exotic in inventing cocktails, particularly expensive cocktails, one wonders if "drinks" have the same meaning as they did a few years ago. With DUI's so common, having a few drinks means something different now than before.

Some bar owners feel there is no such thing as a free drink as all drinks are ultimately supposed to be paid for and customers money is supposed to go to the owner. Overly generous pours, overly flirty behavior can be viewed as being the equivalent of sticky fingers at the till. Its a fine line to tread.
EvenBob
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December 15th, 2013 at 4:20:32 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

overly flirty behavior can be viewed as being the equivalent of sticky fingers at the till..



By who? Women flirt naturally, I don't know what
overly flirty means or why it means she's stealing
from the bar. Generous pours are forbidden in
any bar, no matter who it is. And from my experience,
Gay men love good women bartenders, they flirt
their asses off with them. All in good fun.
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AxiomOfChoice
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December 15th, 2013 at 4:35:09 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Generous pours are forbidden in any bar, no matter who it is.



Really? I find that stiffness of drink tends to vary from bartender to bartender (they either free pour, or they measure and then add some more) and most of them are responsive to tips. Tip well and you will get more booze, for sure.

Stealing? Maybe technically? It's borderline. If I'm paying $10 for a drink and they make it with $2 worth of booze instead of $1, the bar is still doing pretty well.

FWIW, I always tip well, regardless if the bartender is male or female, attractive or not. Unless the bartender is rude or incompetent, that is. It's not like I will stop tipping if the drinks aren't stiff enough (although I may go drink somewhere else)
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December 15th, 2013 at 4:50:47 PM permalink
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The only way to get really good tips as a
bartender is to be a girl under 30.



Preach.

My girl bartended her way through her Masters. $600 a day, upwards of $1,500 on big days like Thanksgiving, NYE, etc.

Madness.
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EvenBob
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December 15th, 2013 at 5:03:25 PM permalink
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My girl bartended her way through her Masters. $600 a day, upwards of $1,500 on big days like Thanksgiving, NYE, etc.



Every guy in the bar wants her to like him, give
her money and at least she'll tolerate him. The
more they drink, the more they tip. Men are
idiots. In 1980, $100 was what $300 is worth now,
and that was a dive bar. In a good bar today, $600
is completely believable.
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DRich
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December 15th, 2013 at 6:22:55 PM permalink
I do a lot of work for bars in Las Vegas. I probably know of at least 50 bartenders that make at least $100,000 a year in Las Vegas at locals bars. They way most people tip their bartenders is crazy when they are gambling.
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December 15th, 2013 at 11:28:35 PM permalink
Bartenders make a ton from me because I don't drink and only order soda/water. I still tip them $1 per drink either way.

One particular bar I was handing out $5 a session, which might have been a bit too much, even with a cleavage tax lol. The bartenders all knew my name and liked the tips but the manager started to not like me after having 90% winning sessions. Why she would be upset I don't know, maybe she owns the bar as well. I averaged $50 profit every time I walked in there, even on their bad paytables.
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December 16th, 2013 at 4:10:33 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

I do a lot of work for bars in Las Vegas. I probably know of at least 50 bartenders that make at least $100,000 a year in Las Vegas at locals bars. They way most people tip their bartenders is crazy when they are gambling.

This may or may not be true. If it is true, I just don't see it. I know a lot of bartenders and NONE have any money or anything worth value to talk about. I know they have busy nights and the tipping is good, but they always have 2 or 3 bartenders splitting. Then they have to tip out other co workers. None drive awesome cars or have nice houses. Perhaps working in this environment causes huge leaks and they gamble, do blow or spend way to much. What do you think is happening?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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