Average Bet and Comps

Whenever I ask my host what my average bet was, they will tell me one number. My question is, do casinos track different games average bets, or do they just lump them all together.

For example, a $100 roulette player on a double zero wheel would be much more valuable to a casino then the Wizard or another good basic strategy blackjack player makes $500 average bets. But if a casino host only looks at what is put into the computer, the Wizard would get 5x more comps then the roulette player.

Anyone knows for sure how casinos track average bets over different games?

Can't say that I know for sure, but I'm fairly confident that each gambling session is individually rated based on the average bet, hands per hour, and house advantage that is appropriate for that session.

Quote: PapaChubby

Can't say that I know for sure, but I'm fairly confident that each gambling session is individually rated based on the average bet, hands per hour, and house advantage that is appropriate for that session.

They certainly try to take HA into account. The two examples in the original question would both have roughly the same EV. They aren't computers, so if you jump around from game to game and alter your bets a lot, they probably push it one way or the other depending on if you are tipping or not.

I understand that a casino would try to keep the fact that you are playing a small/big house edge into consideration, but given a choice (and large enough bankroll) should a player go with the bigger bet/small edge vs a small bet/big edge if they were strictly playing for comps. Or would it not matter since the casino will track things for you.

Example if playing for comps:

1. $500 blackjack player, okay basic strategy, 1% house edge

2. $100 roulette player, double zero, 5.26% house edge

Would player 1 get more comps in general, or would it not matter since player 2 would be tracked accurately by the casino?

My experience is that there are two screens available to your host: A player profile/summary screen and a detailed play history & comp value screen. Generally, the host only looks at your profile screen and makes assumptions basesd upon your "average" bet and hours played.

For example, if you are playing at a major strip hotel, your summary screen may only show you as a $50/bet player who has played for three hours. The host will probably give you a snide look, offer you a cafe comp, and then point the way to the door and advise you not to let it hit you on the way out.

From this screen he doesn't know that you played 3 hours of 00 roulette at $50/spin. They automatically assume BJ. You have to get them to switch to the comp value screen. If you are a 00 roulette player it is fun to watch them physically flinch when they see that the computer has given you a comp value equivalent to a $100/hand BJ player who gave them 6 hours of action. 00 roulette is worth four times the comp value of BJ.

When it comes to playing 00 roulette, the computer is your new best friend. Don't let the host brush you off simply because your average bet & hours played doesn't pencil out to their expecations from a BJ point of view. I've even had hosts refuse to go beyond my player profile screen because they view it as a waste of time. My favorite line is: "Please. Just humor me. Look up my comp value and tell me what it is."

This generally results in an attitude transplant, and them putting "Mr." in front of my name.

Quote: scotty81

My experience is that there are two screens available to your host: A player profile/summary screen and a detailed play history & comp value screen. Generally, the host only looks at your profile screen and makes assumptions basesd upon your "average" bet and hours played.

I can verify this fact at the Boyd casinos downtown. The floorperson showed me that the detailed screen shows buy-in, overall time, game, and win/loss for that session. The main screen was a "roll-up" based on the total play. The one thing that surprised me was that the machine and table play was taken into account when determining total time of play.

-B