Thread Rating:

Beethoven9th
Beethoven9th
Joined: Jul 30, 2012
  • Threads: 75
  • Posts: 5072
November 17th, 2013 at 2:51:49 PM permalink
We've had discussions about Vegas casinos that have the best dealers, but what about places with the worst dealers?
Fighting BS one post at a time!
EvenBob
EvenBob
Joined: Jul 18, 2010
  • Threads: 418
  • Posts: 22686
November 17th, 2013 at 2:57:04 PM permalink
Having a 'tude' will often get you more tips. When
I was a grouchy bartender people tipped me to be
nice to them. It didn't work.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
Beethoven9th
Beethoven9th
Joined: Jul 30, 2012
  • Threads: 75
  • Posts: 5072
November 17th, 2013 at 2:59:25 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Having a 'tude' will often get you more tips.


You know, I can totally see how that would work with some (many?) people. It's funny how the real world often runs counter to what theory might say.
Fighting BS one post at a time!
EvenBob
EvenBob
Joined: Jul 18, 2010
  • Threads: 418
  • Posts: 22686
November 17th, 2013 at 3:10:46 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

You know, I can totally see how that would work with some (many?) people. It's funny how the real world often runs counter to what theory might say.



I can guarantee it's no accident that both Wynn
and Bellagio dealers have aloof attitudes. So do
most head waiters and they make good tips too.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
Beethoven9th
Beethoven9th
Joined: Jul 30, 2012
  • Threads: 75
  • Posts: 5072
November 17th, 2013 at 3:16:45 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I can guarantee it's no accident that both Wynn
and Bellagio dealers have aloof attitudes. So do
most head waiters and they make good tips too.


Maybe, but I really do think that they're miserable people as well (to some extent, at least). I always hear these guys b*tching amongst themselves about tips when they think they're out of earshot of the players. It's pretty pathetic.
Fighting BS one post at a time!
Mosca
Mosca
Joined: Dec 14, 2009
  • Threads: 174
  • Posts: 3481
November 17th, 2013 at 3:21:04 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

We've had discussions about Vegas casinos that have the best dealers, but what about places with the worst dealers?

My goal isn't to pick on anybody or any particular establishment, but I'm just curious so that I have a better idea of what to expect when I'm out and about.

So who would you list as your Top 3 worst dealers, and why? Here's mine:


1) Caesars. Very rude dealers as a whole. Especially if you're a red chip player. Many times I've tipped these guys without a 'Thank you' or even a smile in return. IMHO, these guys are WAY overpaid. (Although I must add, I was there a few weeks ago, and they had a lot more younger dealers there who were much more friendly. So I may eventually have to take this place off my list.)

1) Wynn. This is a weird one because last summer dealers at the Wynn were very friendly. But this past year, they've been major league jerks, for whatever reason. It's also strange because dealers at Encore are still pretty friendly, so I don't know what the deal is. (Though I should probably add that at least one WoV member said that he was recently at the Wynn and that the dealers were cool, so that's good to hear.)

3) Bellagio. These guys are arrogant. True, there's a small handful who are very friendly, but for the most part, I don't like them. Most of these Bellagio dealers act like the players are beneath them.


I'm curious to hear your thoughts & comments.



I'm the guy who had a great time at Wynn. I will say that I seem to have a knack for getting along with everyone, and for helping people who are having a bad day turn around. Someone else's experience might be different.
NO KILL I
Beethoven9th
Beethoven9th
Joined: Jul 30, 2012
  • Threads: 75
  • Posts: 5072
November 17th, 2013 at 5:04:23 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

I'm the guy who had a great time at Wynn. I will say that I seem to have a knack for getting along with everyone, and for helping people who are having a bad day turn around. Someone else's experience might be different.


Ah, couldn't remember exactly who it was, so thank you. :)

That's cool that the Wynn dealers were friendly. Maybe you can go to Caesars next time and work on those guys...haha ;)
Fighting BS one post at a time!
Mosca
Mosca
Joined: Dec 14, 2009
  • Threads: 174
  • Posts: 3481
November 17th, 2013 at 6:23:35 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Ah, couldn't remember exactly who it was, so thank you. :)

That's cool that the Wynn dealers were friendly. Maybe you can go to Caesars next time and work on those guys...haha ;)



They're the worst.

TRUE STORY: I'm a tipper. We were in Caesar's, it was around 11AM, a weekday, and I was the only player to sit down at a 3 Card table. I was playing green chips. I sat down, and I was friendly like always, but I couldn't get more than a little banter from the dealer. When I sat down, I told her I was going to play 10 hands and leave. On the last hand, I put up a red on Pairs Plus for the dealer, and I picked up the A-K-Q of diamonds. $205 and down, and she didn't smile, didn't even say thanks. It was like she was pissed off.

That is the last time I played in a Caesar's. I've played in other CET properties, but if it says Caesar's on it I won't play. I've had other issues with Caesar's dealers in AC, enough to turn me off without that incident, but that was the worst ever.

Back in the mid 2000s, there were a couple people at Caesar's AC with whom I got along well, Ray, and Jennifer and a couple others, to the point where we would ask about family and such, remembering names after a month's absence, but they retired or got downsized around 2007. Things change, we don't need Caesar's and I don't care whether they need us or not.

(Jennifer was really cool, about 50 and beautiful, black hair and glasses, she sang along to the oldies really well and was into reptiles.)
NO KILL I
mds
mds
Joined: Sep 24, 2013
  • Threads: 49
  • Posts: 260
November 17th, 2013 at 7:35:47 PM permalink
I was just at the Wynn. the attitude in general of the dealers at the craps tables was atrocious. (Craps not other table games)Talking back, disrespectful, not helpful at all. I asked one dealer at craps (I was very nice and I always tip) if I put the right odds down and he said, "I don't know it isn't my bet"! I raised such hell! I was blown away. Not all but most of the pit bosses had the same poor attitude. It seems these people hate their jobs. Don't get me wrong, there were some good dealers and pit bosses there that were respectful but really for the most part, they were unhappy. Everything else about the Wynn was awesome. All the other employees were great. Sorry for the rant here on this page.
Pokeraddict
Pokeraddict
Joined: Feb 21, 2012
  • Threads: 36
  • Posts: 786
November 17th, 2013 at 8:26:38 PM permalink
Wynn dealers lost their tip pooling lawsuit. I would figure that has something to do with attitude problems reported by players in this thread.

  • Jump to: