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October 20th, 2013 at 10:54:23 AM permalink
Players have been in an uproar as Voss waters are no longer complimentary, even in high limit pits

Players must either pay $9 or get a host to call down and approve a Voss water for the player at the table

I witnessed this while watching high limit bac yesterday and an asian gentleman playing table max had to stop his game to focus his efforts on obtaining a Voss water

ONLY AT REVEL!
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October 20th, 2013 at 11:09:07 AM permalink
That's all I drink. Fuck you Revel.
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October 20th, 2013 at 11:41:52 AM permalink
$9 for water? Get a Budweiser, it's cheaper.
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October 20th, 2013 at 11:45:20 AM permalink
Quote: chaunceyb3

Fuck you Revel.



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October 20th, 2013 at 12:11:55 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

$9 for water? Get a Budweiser, it's cheaper.




You can drink all the Macallan and Grey Goose you can handle but Voss water.......?

No mas.......Voss!
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:40:29 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

You can drink all the Macallan and Grey Goose you can handle but Voss water.......?

No mas.......Voss!



Did they discontinue stocking it or are they charging for it?

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October 20th, 2013 at 1:46:31 PM permalink
Voss costs $1.70 a bottle online for the 12oz. Revel
gets it wholesale for about $1.25 I'm guessing.
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October 20th, 2013 at 2:07:09 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

You can drink all the Macallan and Grey Goose you can handle but Voss water.......?

No mas.......Voss!




People don't get drunk and play stupid drinking water

We want you to enjoy all the FREE BOOZE you can drink while playing
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October 20th, 2013 at 2:35:37 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Players must either pay $9 or get a host to call down and approve a Voss water for the player at the table.



At a major Strip casino I'm familiar with there was a policy that if you were betting $50 or more per hand at any table game you were entitled to comped pack of cigarettes of you asked. A floor person still had to sign the comp, but it took only a few seconds. You'd think the Revel could give the floor the authority to comp a water as well. Then again, my expectations for their management decisions are not very high.
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October 20th, 2013 at 2:39:11 PM permalink
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At a major Strip casino I'm familiar with there was a policy that if you were betting $50 or more per hand at any table game you were entitled to comped pack of cigarettes of you asked.



In the 80's you could get a pack of smokes in
any Vegas casino if you'd been playing for a
couple hours, I saw it all the time. Of course,
they were only about $1 a pack (or less) in
those days. In the 50's and 60's when Sinatra
entertained at his Palm Springs house, he had
big bowls of loose cigarettes scattered around
for the guests. In those days, everybody smoked.
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October 20th, 2013 at 2:41:54 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

In the 80's you could get a pack of smokes in
any Vegas casino if you'd been playing for a
couple hours



Station Casinos has a policy where anyone at Chairman level can get a free pack a day. I think it is only their certain brand.
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October 20th, 2013 at 3:34:00 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I quit smoking in 1983 because they went from 60 cents
a pack in the grocery store to 85 cents. I've never looked
back.



Good for you!

Now if only those can stop looking back at Revel... ;)

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Maybe I should support cigarette taxes after all, if it would get people to quit.



It probably helps those on the fence of quitting the most. My home state of Missouri has some of the cheapest cigarettes in the country now because we keep failing to pass tax increases. We actually have the lowest state excise tax in the country at 17 cents a pack. Nevada is 80 cents, which we have tried to increase to roughly that level the last few elections, but have failed.
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October 20th, 2013 at 5:26:38 PM permalink
I have a feeling people were ordering them as often as possible and then taking them home.
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October 20th, 2013 at 5:33:09 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I have a feeling people were ordering them as often as possible and then taking them home.



If players were abusing the past policy, then they should at least give the floor supervisors the authority to sign off on comping them. It can take ages to find a host to approve something sometimes.

What is so great about these waters that the cost $9 anyway?
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October 20th, 2013 at 5:38:57 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

If players were abusing the past policy, then they should at least give the floor supervisors the authority to sign off on comping them. It can take ages to find a host to approve something sometimes.

What is so great about these waters that the cost $9 anyway?

I think it used to come in a fancy cool glass bottle. So it must be good
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October 20th, 2013 at 5:39:38 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Station Casinos has a policy where anyone at Chairman level can get a free pack a day. I think it is only their certain brand.



They will give any brand to Chairman players. One pack per day. It used to be two packs.
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October 20th, 2013 at 5:44:39 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

What is so great about these waters that the cost $9 anyway?



They allow you to brag about paying, or being comped, $9 for a bottle of water.
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October 20th, 2013 at 5:52:27 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: Wizard

What is so great about these waters that the cost $9 anyway?

I think it used to come in a fancy cool glass bottle. So it must be good



This Penn and Teller clip is brilliant. People are drinking water from a garden hose, yet they've been told that it's fancy bottled water. LOL!

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October 20th, 2013 at 6:08:08 PM permalink
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This Penn and Teller clip is brilliant. People are drinking water from a garden hose, yet they've been told that it's fancy bottled water. LOL!

lol I love you for this, people are idiots
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October 20th, 2013 at 6:55:51 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

If players were abusing the past policy, then they should at least give the floor supervisors the authority to sign off on comping them. It can take ages to find a host to approve something sometimes.

What is so great about these waters that the cost $9 anyway?



I don't want to violate Rule 6, but for $9 I'm hoping for that bottle of water to come with lips.

When we stay in hotels I always manage to find an open convenience store and buy a 12 pack of bottled water because I refuse to pay $3 for the in-room water or even $2 from the front desk downstairs. I think it's reasonable to avoid the tap water from a hotel room not because the water itself is dirty but because of the sharing of the tap with all of the previous hotel guests. Even still, I hate paying for bottled water because essentially water companies are basically bottling municipal water supplies and selling it at an enormous mark-up.

I call "smart water" "dumb water" because you'd have to be dumb to pay an extra $1.00 for it.
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October 20th, 2013 at 7:25:39 PM permalink
I tried to split off the posts about cigarette taxes. In my effort, I messed up and all those posts are gone. My apologies to the few people that addressed that topic. If anybody still cares to discuss it, please make a new thread for it.
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October 20th, 2013 at 8:56:31 PM permalink
Some people (myself included) can actually identify different waters based on minute differences in taste, if a blind taste test is any indication.

In my opinion, Voss is one of the most neutral tasting waters, and that it's in a glass bottle prevents plasticky-ness from seeping in when it's stored for longer periods of time. My favorite was actually Poland Spring, in the old bottles... and Aquafina brings up the rear. (I recall a friend who used to do water quality testing in the Great Lakes say that Aquafina had more chemical traces than the lake water. Sure tastes like it to me...)

Nowadays, I just drink the RO water I use for my aquariums, purified twice out of the municipal tap.

(Which isn't to say I won't drink other water-- just that it's not my beverage of choice.)
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October 20th, 2013 at 9:16:22 PM permalink
Quote: Venthus

...it's in a glass bottle prevents plasticky-ness from seeping in when it's stored for longer periods of time.


It's funny you mention that because I now try to drink from glass cups because of the BPA in plastic cups. The lame part though is that many drinks (like soda) come in plastic containers.
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October 21st, 2013 at 11:04:26 AM permalink
Santa Fe Station will comp a pack of smokes (any brand) if you have been playing in the pit for any significant length of time. I didn't know this until I went with a friend who smokes.

Voss is bottled in Norway. It is probably the snootiest water around. Mirage comps Fiji, which is also pretty snooty. Some Stations have Perrier.
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October 21st, 2013 at 11:21:46 AM permalink
Quote: Venthus

Some people (myself included) can actually identify different waters based on minute differences in taste, if a blind taste test is any indication.

In my opinion, Voss is one of the most neutral tasting waters

That's funny because I have seen a few reports that Voss has been caught using the same source as tap water from the municipal water supply.(look it up wikapedia speaks of it) I believe you, when you say you can tell the difference between water stored in a crappy plastic bottle VS something better. I would tend to think, you could not tell the differences between Norway's tap water and where they claim to get the water
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October 21st, 2013 at 6:03:55 PM permalink
It could also be that my baseline is weird. (I know that my food tastes are... odd enough.) Distilled water, which you'd think would have no flavor, comes across as being ever so slightly sweet to me.

Post-treatment definitely makes a difference in how water tastes, regardless of the source. I fully believe that, with adequate knowledge and resources, you could take generic dirty ditch water and run it through a process to make it taste like it's from anywhere else in the world. (After all, it's what nature itself does. Replicating it, on the other hand, is a technical hurdle.)

Having said that, I'm agree with the assessment that most people who drink premium waters are tasting mostly psychological effect with a tiny bit of not-plastic-bottle added in.
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October 21st, 2013 at 6:23:44 PM permalink
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I fully believe that, with adequate knowledge and resources, you could take generic dirty ditch water and run it through a process to make it taste like it's from anywhere else in the world.



That's easy, just distill it. Hell, some places are even "recycling" sewer water and turning it into drinking water.

Are Americans Ready to Start Drinking Their (Treated) Toilet Water?

From toilets to tap: How we get tap water from sewage
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October 21st, 2013 at 7:39:30 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

That's easy, just distill it. Hell, some places are even "recycling" sewer water and turning it into drinking water.



Sure, that gets the water out-- but it's a much tougher game to get the cocktail blend of trace minerals and chemicals in to synthesize water from a specific location.
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October 21st, 2013 at 8:05:39 PM permalink
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you could not tell the differences between Norway's tap water and where they claim to get the water


absolutely true because there is no difference!
Voss water is Norway's tap water.
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October 21st, 2013 at 8:12:10 PM permalink
I worked at a grocery store when I was a teen. One of our more popular gallon sized waters was the store branded "Drinking water from a municipal source." I could never figure out how/why the city water in Cedar Rapids Iowa was so much better than the city water in Mankato Minnesota that it was worth paying $0.95/gallon to get the Iowan water...
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October 21st, 2013 at 8:17:21 PM permalink
or even better yet...REALITY star water



Black Water (BLK Water) (and no, not the mercenary group lol)

Diamond Water
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October 21st, 2013 at 8:22:01 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

I worked at a grocery store when I was a teen. One of our more popular gallon sized waters was the store branded "Drinking water from a municipal source." I could never figure out how/why the city water in Cedar Rapids Iowa was so much better than the city water in Mankato Minnesota that it was worth paying $0.95/gallon to get the Iowan water...



We get all our water from Lk MI. I get mine
at the grocery store from a Glacier machine
that filters it 3 times, uses reverse osmosis
and ultraviolet light.

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October 21st, 2013 at 11:20:39 PM permalink
The best episode of classic British TV Comedy "Only fools and horses" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Nature's_Son_(Only_Fools_and_Horses)

The protagonists sell Peckham tap water as bottled stuff from a pure spring.
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October 22nd, 2013 at 3:37:34 AM permalink
I can't tell the difference between tap water and bottled water. Bottled water is tap water placed in a fancy bottle anyway.
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October 22nd, 2013 at 12:01:55 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

We get all our water from Lk MI. I get mine at the grocery store from a Glacier machine that filters it 3 times, uses reverse osmosis and ultraviolet light.



Maintenance on those machines really varies, which can be interesting. (Not so much for drinking, but one of my friends raises exotic aquatics, which can be REALLY fragile.)

Related to water, ever heard of http://www.glaceice.net/purchase.html? 6.50 for an ice cube!
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October 22nd, 2013 at 12:32:21 PM permalink
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I can't tell the difference between tap water and bottled water. Bottled water is tap water placed in a fancy bottle anyway.



Next time you are at the store get one bottle of Fiji water and tell me if you can tell the difference. I used to think they all tasted the same. Arrowhead, Sparklets, store brands, Aquafina, Glacier. etc, etc. Just recently I had Fiji at a casino. It tastes much better in my opinion.


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October 22nd, 2013 at 1:19:34 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

We get all our water from Lk MI. I get mine
at the grocery store from a Glacier machine
that filters it 3 times, uses reverse osmosis
and ultraviolet light.



I have seen the inside of these type machines, and it can be nasty.

The machines were for a local company, back when you could fill up your own 1 gallon jug for .25 or a 5'er for a buck, and I wouldn't ever choose to drink that water, much less pay for it!
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October 22nd, 2013 at 2:30:45 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Next time you are at the store get one bottle of Fiji water and tell me if you can tell the difference. I used to think they all tasted the same. Arrowhead, Sparklets, store brands, Aquafina, Glacier. etc, etc. Just recently I had Fiji at a casino. It tastes much better in my opinion.


ZCore13



Fiji tastes different to me, too. So does Coke's Dasani. I suppose there really are differences in taste depending on the source area and on minerals present/added/removed. I don't know what Fiji does, but I think Dasani advertises that they "add minerals for a clean crisp taste."
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October 22nd, 2013 at 2:57:48 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Fiji tastes different to me, too. So does Coke's Dasani. I suppose there really are differences in taste depending on the source area and on minerals present/added/removed. I don't know what Fiji does, but I think Dasani advertises that they "add minerals for a clean crisp taste."



I couldn't believe it when I tasted it so I read the label wondering why it tasted so good. Then I looked up the info on the internet. It says Fiji water comes from Fiji. It's actually rain water that flows down volcanic rock, picking up minerals as it goes down. It ends up under ground in a natural retaining basin.

I don't know what it's all about, but it was delicious. :)



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October 22nd, 2013 at 3:00:31 PM permalink
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Related to water, ever heard of http://www.glaceice.net/purchase.html? 6.50 for an ice cube!



It amazes me that there are some rich bastards out there that would splurge on 6.50 on a single cube of ice.
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