Please read before voting: Comic relief in WoV via 3TAAL

Recent discussions about who people are behind the keyboard got me to remembering some old game shows, like To Tell the Truth and What's My Line? So I thought folks here might enjoy a little game of their own. Here are the proposed rules:

1. The first thing people would do before posting would be to PM the game moderator the answers to their statements, with the subject line 3TAAL, prior to the start of the game. The game moderator would not open any of these posts prior to the end of the contest (this can be proven with the time stamp if necessary). An entry deadline would be established, along with a starting and ending time of the game. Duration 1 week start to finish.

2. Each person playing would make a thread about themselves that would tell 3 truths about themselves and 1 lie (3TAAL). (Maybe in its own area within the forum, or an appropriate category?) The truths would be as outrageous, bragging, or ridiculous as possible, but they MUST be true about you. The lie can be anything you can think of. The thread would be titled with your name and 3TAAL so they could be identified.

3. The 3TAAL threads above would be in the form of a poll with only one answer possible, and no additional information in the body of the message (might have to type something in the comment box to get it to post, though). Four answers would be presented. Other people would have to pick out the lie among the truths. No personally trackable or incriminating information should be posted, and no details or explanation necessary; just a simple statement per claim. Statements should be distinctive from one another; telling the same thing more than once and simply rephrasing is not allowed.

4. The voting would be open to all forum visitors. Voters and competitors can have any discussion they want on-topic to the facts in the OP's thread, respecting forum rules, but the OP may NOT post anything about their statements; no hints, rebuttals, or clarifications in their thread until the contest ends.

5. At the end of the competition, the polls would be checked for their answer percentages, then the PM's opened and statements compared. The lie with the LOWEST percentage among all players will be the winner (the largest percentage of voters they fooled would show in the 3 truths). The winner would receive, from my minivault, their choice of a particular pre-1900 Morgan silver dollar I own or a 4 carat diamond bracelet in gold, both pawnable, roughly equivalent in value (not as much as they should be these days). The bracelet is new and unworn; the dollar is old and circulated but in pretty good shape. I plan on keeping both when I win, by the way.

If at least 20 people vote they will/may play (one of the first 3 answers above) by Sunday, October 20th at 12pm Vegas time, I will place the prizes in escrow with the Wizard prior to the contest. If not, no harm, no foul. I have checked with the moderators, and they say sure, so please vote above. And have fun with it!

UPDATE, 10-20 at 2pm vegas time. Several people have changed their minds and would like to vote "yes" instead of "no", possibly taking us over 20. The thread format does not allow changes to your vote here. Please re-vote (or vote for the first time) at new vote thread . Thanks!

Received a couple of PM's on this so just wanted to clarify: I may not be the game moderator, though I came up with the game; it may be a willing neutral party. I expect to play if we get enough players.

Now I'm wishing I hadn't revealed so much personal info... might be hard to get a lie past everyone now.

In any case, I love old money. I'm in =)

It seems interesting, but I chose to not play (but I don't mind fun). I might change my mind, though. If it gets near 20 and stalls I'll flip over.

WRITE-IN VOTE: I'm a bigot

Quote: Beethoven9th

WRITE-IN VOTE: I'm a bigot

I hate bigots. Write me in for that too, please.

1. I lived in the jungle in Hawaii growing pot and taking LSD.
2. I enrolled in college as a theater major before changing to mathematics.
3. I met my x-wife on a train we both hopped between Wenatchee and Seattle.
4. I was a traveling salesman selling handmade greeting cards.

I'm posting 3 examples in response to a PM: the intent of this game is to tell whoppers, and interesting things you have done or were a part of in your life as if they were whoppers, and see if people can figure out what's what. I'm not going to confirm or deny any of these at this time, because I may use one or more of them for the game. The intent is to brag, maybe by doing something cool, meeting someone famous, accomplishing something notable, whatever. But in each set there are 3 truths and 1 lie. In some ways, the most interesting part of the game is, during the reveal, the players can tell the stories behind the truths, and maybe even some of the lies (for example, one of my lies below happened, but it was a family member, not me that did it, so it's false).

For me, each set is really correct: 3 truths, and 1 lie. (There are 2 for sure, maybe as many as 4, that I have already mentioned in other threads in context; gonna have to figure that out for sure.)

I was once officially the fastest female swimmer in the US.
I vectored Air Force One low over my mom's house so she could see him.
I partied with Mick Jagger on the Steel Wheels tour.
I flew a B757 from MEM to MCO in the captain's seat.

Second set:

I modeled nude at age 15.
I piloted the Budweiser blimp over the Daytona 500.
I am descended from a British king.
I have sung as a duo with Peter Yarrow (Peter, Paul, and Mary)

Third set:

I sat on Richard Nixon's lap.
Strom Thurmond squeezed my ass during a photo shoot.
I was invited to go flying with Harrison Ford. (I already told this story in another thread: true)
I sat next to John Travolta at dinner. (I already told this story in another thread: true)

Here's my set:

1) I have no job.
2) I have no money.
3) I live in my mom's basement.
4) I've had sex with 1,000 women.

OK guys, which one is the LIE?

Quote: teliot

1. I lived in the jungle in Hawaii growing pot and taking LSD.
2. I enrolled in college as a theater major before changing to mathematics.
3. I met my x-wife on a train we both hopped between Wenatchee and Seattle.
4. I was a traveling salesman selling handmade greeting cards.

These are great, teliot! Too bad we posted at the same time; I wouldn't have exposed so many of mine ahead of time. You have the exact idea.

Quote: teliot

1. I lived in the jungle in Hawaii growing pot and taking LSD.
2. I enrolled in college as a theater major before changing to mathematics.
3. I met my x-wife on a train we both hopped between Wenatchee and Seattle.
4. I was a traveling salesman selling handmade greeting cards.

All of these could be truth or they could be lies.
I frankly don't understand how this works. If
I had to choose the lie, it would be a blind guess.
Like how many fingers am holding out behind my
back. It's just a guess. I need more details on how
this works, I don't get it at all.

Jane Fonda asked me for directions once in 1980.
Jeff Bridges bought me and two friends lunch.
Jeff Daniels bought something from me at an antique show.
James Woods gave me his autograph at a Santa Barbara flea market.

3 lies and 1 truth. How in the world would you know
which is the lie, only I know that.

Quote: EvenBob

All of these could be truth or they could be lies.

Exactly one is a lie. Three are true.

Quote: teliot

Exactly one is a lie. Three are true.

But to ME they could all be true. Or lies. They're meaningless
to me, I have no context to put them in. Like you have none
for those I just listed. They could all be lies as far as you know.

Quote: EvenBob

But to ME they could all be true. Or lies. They're meaningless
to me, I have no context to put them in.

Oh, I see what you're saying now. I guess the OP thought it would be a fun way to get to know our fellow members? *shrug*

Quote: teliot

1. I lived in the jungle in Hawaii growing pot and taking LSD.

This I believe; I can see this.

Quote: teliot

2. I enrolled in college as a theater major before changing to mathematics.

Oh...the Drama! This I can see. :)

Quote: teliot

3. I met my x-wife on a train we both hopped between Wenatchee and Seattle.

Plausible. Hopping trains is AP.

Quote: teliot

4. I was a traveling salesman selling handmade greeting cards.

Plausible.

Quote: Paigowdan

This I believe; I can see this.


Oh...the Drama! This I believe. :)


Plausible. Hopping trains is AP.


Plausible.

They're all believable, just like mine. I don't get the
rules, how do you win?

Spot the crock in the bunch.

Quote: Paigowdan

Spot the crock in the bunch.

Buzzard?

Quote: EvenBob

how do you win?

By not playing.

I would play but I have given away so man personal tidbits on the boards I am not sure I have anything left to tell...

Quote: Paigowdan

Spot the crock in the bunch.

So it's a guessing contest? It's just blind luck then,
no skill involved. I have no idea which of the things
Eliot posted is true, how could I.

You can't possibly know which of mine are true:

Jane Fonda asked me for directions once in 1980.
Jeff Bridges bought me and two friends lunch.
Jeff Daniels bought something from me at an antique show.
James Woods gave me his autograph at a Santa Barbara flea market.

So theoretically we all will do the same, there will be no
winner.

Quote: EvenBob

So it's a guessing contest? It's just blind luck then,
no skill involved. I have no idea which of the things
Eliot posted is true, how could I.

You can't possibly know which of mine are true:

Jane Fonda asked me for directions once in 1980.
Jeff Bridges bought me and two friends lunch.
Jeff Daniels bought something from me at an antique show.
James Woods gave me his autograph at a Santa Barbara flea market.

So theoretically we all will do the same, there will be no
winner.

Can any of us ever really know the "truth"?


Bob - I know where you are coming from here - but, we are playing this on the honor system (although there is no honor among thieves there should be honor among gamblers...lest we be written about in a Bob Dancer column lol)

Quote: aceofspades

Bob - I know where you are coming from here - but, we are playing this on the honor system

What do you mean? How does that make your guess
accurate? You have the same odds as everyone else,
there is no advantage play here.

Bob,

May I recommend that rather than saying something trivial about who you met, you say something incredible about your life, something that was significant in defining who you are.

Quote: aceofspades

Quote: Paigowdan

Spot the crock in the bunch.

Buzzard?

Oh, man, ace! what a shot! hahahaha

Quote: teliot

Bob,

May I recommend that rather than saying something trivial about who you met, you say something incredible about your life, something that was significant in defining who you are.

But the examples Babs posted, all 12 of them, are
of the same significance as the ones I posted. None
of them define who she is. This is just a rule you're
making up as we go along, Eliot. All of yours have
equal credibility, they could all easily be true.

Quote: EvenBob

So it's a guessing contest? It's just blind luck then,
no skill involved.

Bob, it's like poker: skill + chance (luck).
The key is to offer clues that are not so much researchable, as much they can be deduced by analysis - like Sherlock Holmes.

Quote: Paigowdan

Bob, it's like poker: skill + chance (luck).
The key is to offer clues that are not so much researchable, as much they can be deduced by analysis - like Sherlock Holmes.

So we get to ask questions of the person who wrote
the examples? Otherwise, what are we using to make
the analysis. I know nothing of Eliot, all his look true to
me. This is like To Tell The Truth, except there they got
to grill the contestants. Without the grilling, they have
nothing to make a guess on.

Quote: teliot

Bob,

May I recommend that rather than saying something trivial about who you met, you say something incredible about your life, something that was significant in defining who you are. Those are the type of things I posted. The fact that one is false means 3 must be true, which no matter the three you choose says something significant about who I am.

Well said. That's a lot of the fun. And ace has it as well; it's on the honor system. Kind of like almost everyone I know has a set of bar stories they like to tell in social situations about wild things that happened to them one time, when the conversation moves in that direction.

Pick the nut sentence out of those from your life and post each one, plus a lie that is equally plausible; then when the contest is done, tell the story. If it amuses you to make everything up and post all lies, that's on you; I'm not asking anyone to prove something like in a court of law, just giving people a chance to know each other better.

The only verification needed is that the PM you send with your truths and lie must match your thread, and not be edited after that; the game moderator will hold those until the contest is over. But as teliot noted, the truths you tell and the lie you choose are interesting insights into you as well.

Yeah, there's a prize with financial worth; this is a gambling forum, and people here care about that, including me. But telling interesting stories about yourself to people you correspond with here is fun in itself. It happens every day on other threads. Might lead to other friendships, business ideas, who knows.

Quote: beachbumbabs

Second set:

I modeled nude at age 15.

You know the forum rules.

Video or it didn't happen !

Quote: teliot

Bob,

May I recommend that rather than saying something trivial about who you met, you say something incredible about your life, something that was significant in defining who you are.

My concerns are , lets say Varm, Said
1 I make 200 to 500 a day playing baccarat
2 I dated a supermodel once and she always paid.
3 I spend 4k a month on jewelry
4 I once won $25 in a local singing contest.

The problem I have is he would probably lay claim to all of the above. How do we weed out truthful people from delusional people?

Quote: beachbumbabs

Pick the nut sentence out of those from your life and post each one, plus a lie that is equally plausible;

I wrote these:

Jane Fonda asked me for directions once in 1980.
Jeff Bridges bought me and two friends lunch.
Jeff Daniels bought something from me at an antique show.
James Woods gave me his autograph at a Santa Barbara flea market.

You wrote:

I modeled nude at age 15.
I piloted the Budweiser blimp over the Daytona 500.
I am descended from a British king.
I have sung as a duo with Peter Yarrow (Peter, Paul, and Mary)

You could have done any of those things. I could have done
any of mine. None are significant, I have no idea which is
true. You piloted a blimp for 2min, you nude modeled once,
half of Brits have royal blood, Peter Yarrow has sung duets
with lots of people. I have no guess at all, how could I.

How could you guess mine, their all plausible, just like yours.

Bob - even I, who loves your 'devil's advocate' role here on the forums, believe that you do indeed clearly understand the proposed game and feel as if you would be betraying your role as the curmudgeon if you admitted the honor system can work and you might actually have fun

And remember...truth can be stranger than fiction

Quote: teliot

1. I lived in the jungle in Hawaii growing pot and taking LSD.
2. I enrolled in college as a theater major before changing to mathematics.
3. I met my x-wife on a train we both hopped between Wenatchee and Seattle.
4. I was a traveling salesman selling handmade greeting cards.

Number 1 is completely realistic, I lived in Hawaii for a year. Obama hung out on the
beach and smoked dope for years and became president, for crying out loud.
Number 2 happens every day.
Number 3 is how we meet people, again, happens every day.
Number 4 is also realistic, traveling salesmen have and still sell
everything under the sun. When you're young you'll do almost
anything for money.

I have no guess.

Quote: aceofspades

Bob - even I, who loves your 'devil's advocate' role here on the forums, believe that you do indeed clearly understand the proposed game and feel as if you would be betraying your role as the curmudgeon if you admitted the honor system can work and you might actually have fun

What does the honor system have to do with it. What
do you mean? I guess I'll just watch and see how it
works, everybody but me apparently has this all
figured out. I don't see where any of Eliot's would be
a lie, I don't see the clue.

So you have this all down, Ace, which of Eliot's is the lie?

Damn't I've told so many lies over and over again in my life even I can't tell you what's true and what wasn't.

Quote: AxelWolf

My concerns are , lets say Varm, Said
1 I make 200 to 500 a day playing baccarat
2 I dated a supermodel once and she always paid.
3 I spend 4k a month on jewelry
4 I once won $25 in a local singing contest.

The problem I have is he would probably lay claim to all of the above. How do we weed out truthful people from delusional people?

And my question would be, I guess, who among us cares what Varm lies about or does with his life? He's the one who has to live with himself, not me. I'm interested in people worth my time, who they are, where they're coming from; it helps me see their point of view. Everybody's experiences and environments form them; let's hear about your greatest hits.

On a practical basis, giving the answers in advance of entering the contest should prevent a person from winning just by claiming the least-picked is the lie. You have to put your answers in escrow.

Quote: beachbumbabs

And my question would be, I guess, who among us cares what Varm lies about or does with his life? He's the one who has to live with himself, not me. I'm interested in people worth my time, who they are, where they're coming from; it helps me see their point of view. Everybody's experiences and environments form them; let's hear about your greatest hits.

On a practical basis, giving the answers in advance of entering the contest should prevent a person from winning just by claiming the least-picked is the lie. You have to put your answers in escrow.

so it would come down to is guessing whitch lie is the least biggest lie? I was just pointing out I want to be able to make an educated guess on the truth not lies. fyi im not knocking your game and think it would be fun.. when all the kinks get worked out ..

If a person is a pathological liar, I would guess they're so used to mixing the two they wouldn't win the game, because it would feel like a random pick to the others reading. One lie would be picked as often as the others.

Quote: beachbumbabs

If a person is a pathological liar, I would guess they're so used to mixing the two they wouldn't win the game, because it would feel like a random pick to the others reading. One lie would be picked as often as the others.

They don't have to be a liar, just not very clever.
I would think a clever liar has a great chance of
winning.

Quote: beachbumbabs

If a person is a pathological liar, I would guess they're so used to mixing the two they wouldn't win the game, because it would feel like a random pick to the others reading. One lie would be picked as often as the others.

In that case lets just pick numbers between 1 and 3000

Quote: EvenBob

So you have this all down, Ace, which of Eliot's is the lie?

No I don't have it all down Bob - the idea of the game is to make a yes, "GUESS" at which one the lie is among the statements - this is not the endgame of the game itself - my interpretation of the game is that it will spark discussion and we can all exchange stories about the items that were truthful - this would, in theory, allow us all to get to know one another better

Quote: aceofspades

No I don't have it all down Bob - the idea of the game is to make a yes, "GUESS" at which one the lie is among the statements - this is not the endgame of the game itself - my interpretation of the game is that it will spark discussion and we can all exchange stories about the items that were truthful - this would, in theory, allow us all to get to know one another better

wasn't there a thread like this before where they did a q and a about a a particular member?

In college I smoked pot with Dan Marino.
I got driving lessons from Jackie Stewart.
I woke up in the middle of open heart surgery.
I stopped an attempted rape and chased a guy who had a knife.

Quote: Mosca

I stopped an attempted rape and chased a guy who had a knife.

I was never convicted

Quote: AxelWolf

wasn't there a thread like this before where they did a q and a about a a particular member?

Yes, and it bombed terribly because some of the members asked were too paranoid about all that they revealed.

Quote: tringlomane

Quote: AxelWolf

wasn't there a thread like this before where they did a q and a about a a particular member?

Yes, and it bombed terribly because some of the members asked were too paranoid about all that they revealed.

I would say there's a big difference between the 2 formats, and it would take care of that problem.

In a Q and A game, the questioners get to ask what THEY want to know, and the answerer is on the spot to respond, and whatever they say, or if they refuse to answer, inferences will be drawn. That could be incredibly awkward.

In 3TAAL, the player only talks about what HE wants to talk about, and the rest are confined to that event or topic for comments or speculation. The player is in control of what they want to divulge, and they never have to explain any of their statements used for the game if they don't want to.

Quote: Mosca

In college I smoked pot with Dan Marino.
I got driving lessons from Jackie Stewart.
I woke up in the middle of open heart surgery.
I stopped an attempted rape and chased a guy who had a knife.

Well, Mosca, I think you didn't wake up in the middle of open heart surgery. I think it was some other kind of surgery.

Quote: teliot

1. I lived in the jungle in Hawaii growing pot and taking LSD.
2. I enrolled in college as a theater major before changing to mathematics.
3. I met my x-wife on a train we both hopped between Wenatchee and Seattle.
4. I was a traveling salesman selling handmade greeting cards.

This isn't really fair, because I know teliot pretty well in real life, but I would bet money it is #2. I just can't see teliot as a theater major. Anyone (besides teliot) want to make it interesting?

Quote: jon

This isn't really fair, because I know teliot pretty well in real life, but I would bet money it is #2. I just can't see teliot as a theater major. Anyone (besides teliot) want to make it interesting?

Well, "making it interesting" is the point of the game. I'd like to see enough interest to do it; there's a not-insignificant prize to be awarded.