Single unit progressive, should you also win the actual payout
September 21st, 2013 at 6:38:25 AM
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Hi
I am trying to figure out if I was shorted on a payout. I was playing a game called Swords and Shields in California. The game is a single unit progressive wherein getting 3 double wilds in any position paid the progressive with a max bet. Below the Progressive payout image on the slot showing 3 double wilds wins progressive is a line that shows double wild->double wild->double wild with MAX bet= 3000 then wild-> wild-> wild= 250, and so on. So I hit double wild->double wild->double wild and the machine said see attendant and played music. I had won the progressive for $4,314. However when the attendants were getting the winnings one of them said he had never seen them line up before- as to win the progressive they just have to be on the screen in any position. I was thinking about that, and the fact that they got a little weird after he made the comment. On that win, because I was betting the max of $1.80, even though I won the progressive, they were all lined up. Shouldn't I also win the 3000 times my bet or $5,400. Actually my win was bigger without the progressive being that I was only paid the $4,314. I asked the manager and he was really vague saying 3000 meant 3000 pennies or $30. I agreed but I bet $1.80 or 180 pennies meaning $5,400. Another guy came over and kind of confused the conversation but as far as I can tell the payout should've been $5,400 with the progressive amount of $4314. Is that right?Any insight would really be appreciated. Thanks
I am trying to figure out if I was shorted on a payout. I was playing a game called Swords and Shields in California. The game is a single unit progressive wherein getting 3 double wilds in any position paid the progressive with a max bet. Below the Progressive payout image on the slot showing 3 double wilds wins progressive is a line that shows double wild->double wild->double wild with MAX bet= 3000 then wild-> wild-> wild= 250, and so on. So I hit double wild->double wild->double wild and the machine said see attendant and played music. I had won the progressive for $4,314. However when the attendants were getting the winnings one of them said he had never seen them line up before- as to win the progressive they just have to be on the screen in any position. I was thinking about that, and the fact that they got a little weird after he made the comment. On that win, because I was betting the max of $1.80, even though I won the progressive, they were all lined up. Shouldn't I also win the 3000 times my bet or $5,400. Actually my win was bigger without the progressive being that I was only paid the $4,314. I asked the manager and he was really vague saying 3000 meant 3000 pennies or $30. I agreed but I bet $1.80 or 180 pennies meaning $5,400. Another guy came over and kind of confused the conversation but as far as I can tell the payout should've been $5,400 with the progressive amount of $4314. Is that right?Any insight would really be appreciated. Thanks
September 21st, 2013 at 6:43:08 AM
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I asked the manager and he was really vague saying 3000 meant 3000 pennies or $30. I agreed but I bet $1.80 or 180 pennies meaning $5,400. Another guy came over and kind of confused the conversation but as far as I can tell the payout should've been $5,400 with the progressive amount of $4314. Is that right?
September 21st, 2013 at 3:16:25 PM
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I believe that the $3,000 with Max Bet simply means $3,000, not 3,000 multiplied by the Line Bet, because you have to be Max Betting to win that. $3,000 is also probably the Base Pay for that result, with the percentage that goes into the Progressive being added to that.
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September 21st, 2013 at 4:04:23 PM
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Quote: Gamer78I asked the manager and he was really vague saying 3000 meant 3000 pennies or $30. I agreed but I bet $1.80 or 180 pennies meaning $5,400. Another guy came over and kind of confused the conversation but as far as I can tell the payout should've been $5,400 with the progressive amount of $4314. Is that right?
Unfortunately it's hard to say without the picture properly shown. But a lot of time the rule of "Only Highest Win Paid" applies, which would be the progressive unless this was a single line machine. And I have never seen a single-line machine that requires $1.80 per spin. My guess is you played a 9-liner at 20c a spin, so Double Wild-Double Wild-Double Wild falling on a line without the max lines paid would only pay 3000 x $0.20 = $600.
